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I only watched it from a distance so just saw them go in and then emerge - watching some horses in all the classes made me feel quite uncomfortable!
 

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People don't think, is what it is! "one phone call, what harm could it do?" problem is, 100 phone calls a day clogging up the lines when other people want to see how their actual relatives are, or local doctors need to speak to specialists about cases.

My heart goes out to his family, especially his two kids. Here's hoping that official channels bring good news soon. x
 

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it's not just the volume though is it, it's the fact that it's none of our business :( I'm so angry on their behalf about the intrusion.

I'm really hoping that we will soon hear that he's on the mend and will be returning home and am keeping everything crossed that will be the case soon, it must be awful for them all. but it's absolutely no bodies business except his family, patient confidentiality & all that (not to mention everyone is entitled to a bit of old fashioned privacy when their life is turned upside down).
 

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it's not just the volume though is it, it's the fact that it's none of our business :( I'm so angry on their behalf about the intrusion.

I'm really hoping that we will soon hear that he's on the mend and will be returning home and am keeping everything crossed that will be the case soon, it must be awful for them all. but it's absolutely no bodies business except his family, patient confidentiality & all that (not to mention everyone is entitled to a bit of old fashioned privacy when their life is turned upside down).

This! Just made me think who ARE these people calling the hospital?!
 

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I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to call a hospital or pester staff or family. However in Jonty’s case particularly he’s invited his fans to be part of his journey including funding the purchase of his horse so I’m not absolutely convinced it’s none of their business. A simple update occasionally would stop most of the inappropriate intrusion.
 

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I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to call a hospital or pester staff or family. However in Jonty’s case particularly he’s invited his fans to be part of his journey including funding the purchase of his horse so I’m not absolutely convinced it’s none of their business. A simple update occasionally would stop most of the inappropriate intrusion.

I suspect it’s mainly press calling. How did H&H find out about the calls?
 

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I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to call a hospital or pester staff or family. However in Jonty’s case particularly he’s invited his fans to be part of his journey including funding the purchase of his horse so I’m not absolutely convinced it’s none of their business. A simple update occasionally would stop most of the inappropriate intrusion.

It is absolutely none of their business. Nobody has the right to demand sensitive information, regarding someone who potentially could have a life-changing injury, regardless of their association with them. I am sure the family will update when they feel the time is right - at the moment, they have more important things to worry about. Of course, it doesn't mean we don't have the right to be concerned about Jonty - and I would like to think that anyone who has contacted the hospital has done so, with their heart in the right place.
 

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It is absolutely none of their business. Nobody has the right to demand sensitive information, regarding someone who potentially could have a life-changing injury, regardless of their association with them. I am sure the family will update when they feel the time is right - at the moment, they have more important things to worry about. Of course, it doesn't mean we don't have the right to be concerned about Jonty - and I would like to think that anyone who has contacted the hospital has done so, with their heart in the right place.

I didn’t say anyone should demand sensitive information - did you read what I said? It’s wholly inappropriate.

However people are interested for genuinely concerned reasons. It doesn’t have to be the family that does a statement, the hospital as it now has done can do it with as little or as much information as the family want to give. It just shuts people up and avoids speculation.
 

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I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to call a hospital or pester staff or family. However in Jonty’s case particularly he’s invited his fans to be part of his journey including funding the purchase of his horse so I’m not absolutely convinced it’s none of their business. A simple update occasionally would stop most of the inappropriate intrusion.

most of us who contributed are part of the FB group set up after the crowdfunding though, and there are the same generic updates posted there from Jonty's team as HHO and EI are publicising. There's a lot of support on the group too as you'd expect :)
 

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I suspect it’s mainly press calling. How did H&H find out about the calls?

Potentially press...they've definitely been known to behave abominably with very public figures (like pretending to be priests to get access to Michael Schumacher iirc) However, the hospital have issued a formal plea, and Eventing Ireland, Horse Sport Ireland and Tattersalls 3DE are all involved as a barrier between public/press and family, so I imagine H&H know about the calls because EI shot the H&H's eventing department an email with an official statement on, no nefarious means necessary!

As far as daily updates go, I would imagine that whatever's happening there, it is a waiting game for everyone involved. It's probably safe to say that the news is, there is no news until we hear otherwise. WFP's family were similarly quiet until they started waking him up, and WFP's next-of-kin is a broadcaster who is used to the media. While it's true that Jonty has invited people in, unfortunately it's not him, it's his wife and kids that are the ones aware of what's going on right now. And I'm not entirely sure that a spouse can or should be held to the decisions of her husband if it's going to take her energy away from being with him and supporting their kids... family before fans!
 

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I didn’t say anyone should demand sensitive information - did you read what I said? It’s wholly inappropriate.

However people are interested for genuinely concerned reasons. It doesn’t have to be the family that does a statement, the hospital as it now has done can do it with as little or as much information as the family want to give. It just shuts people up and avoids speculation.

Sorry SBTS, tried to re-word it as a response to you rather than coming across as an argument - sneakily HHOing in work!

As a general observation, I completely agree that the concern shown by fans is totally genuine. I suppose the issue with updating regularly (even if no change) is that it might set the expectation that we get an update daily, weekly, whatever - for any minute change.
I guess with this kind of injury, the path to recovery isn't going to be linear, and I suppose the complexity of the injury could potentially mean that the hospital aren't in a position to update with anything 'firm'- his condition could be changing regularly.
In an ideal world, they could issue something to put our minds at rest - but this may not be possible right now.

As before, everything crossed for a quick recovery - having seen first hand how difficult the recovery can be from a 'mild' TBI (my brother was unfortunate enough to spend 2 weeks in neuro ward last year after tripping over his own feet, in the street), I know it can be tough.
 

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No randomers should be phoning the hospital, that is totally out of order. After both WFP and Emily Gilruth's falls, IIRC there were understandably very few early public updates whilst they were both so ill and heavily sedated. These are very worrying times for Jonty's family.

In Emily's case, after a while Polly Stockton took on the job of posting FB updates about her recovery for anyone to read, with the full permission of Emily's family.
 

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Oh gosh what a sad update. I hope he goes onto make a full recovery but the update certainly sounds guarded and that he has a very long road ahead of him. Thoughts to his family also as they are the ones who will be feeling helpless.
Head injuries are just so difficult to give predicted outcomes to
 

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I felt the same as many others reading this update - I am holding onto the thought that WFP has made a good recovery, through what was clearly a very difficult and long recovery period for him and his family. I hope so much that Jonty does the same.

It is, as many others have said, incredibly sobering - my YO has gone off to Luhmuhlen today, I cannot imagine how we would all feel if anything were to happen to her at that or any other event
 

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Why is everybody so pessimistic about that statement they can only tell you what they know. Of course they are guarded as being over optimistic has a habit of coming back and biting you in the bum. They wont know for certain the true extent of damage until they bring him out of the induced coma, something that may not happen for day ,weeks or longer.
Jonty is a tough cookie who came through a possible career ending injury at I believe Upton house about 12 yrs ago and hopefully he will fight this with the same determination. Head injuries are very unpredictable in nature and only the lucky few get full function back . It just goes to show how a fairly innocuous fall can cause severe damage.
 
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