Lame... PLEASE look (pics inc) farrier issue?

He's had what can only be described as his moonboots on today. Farrier seems to have done an okay job considering he has pretty much NO hoof to play with... He said the balance issue is going to take such a long time because he never invisaged how little hoof he has to play with & growing some is the current priority.
I walked him up and down on the hard after being done & whilst he was unsure still he seemed to be striding out much better, still not 100% sound though...

I lost it a wee bit again today, as although I know (or at least I think) what I'm doing is for the best, it keeps dawning on me worst case, if in 6months he's not improved what will I do? What if my insurance runs out? Then what? :'( Urgh...
 
L&B said:
Wagtail I hope so... I'm not holding up v well at the moment. I'm torturing myself with the worst. He has to come sound - doesn't he? :(
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Yes. He will be fine. I am sure of it. His problems are likely to be purely very bad foot balance. So many worse things for a horse to have, and still come sound.
 
Well, I let my lad stretch his legs for the first time in his new shoes in an empty school this eve. And after him previously (in his metals) standing there when Ive let him stretch before, doing nothing but shouting for me to bring him in; tonight he was doing some, erm, some VERY fancy moves, consisting of never being on more than two legs at a time & one speed - verybloominfast; most of which with his man bits out! (no Bute I hasten to add).
I was worried he was going to overdo it, but, I truly didn't expect him to carry on that way!!
Not really sure what else to update with, but I sincerely hope this is the road to recovery... :(
 
L&B said:
Well, I let my lad stretch his legs for the first time in his new shoes in an empty school this eve. And after him previously (in his metals) standing there when Ive let him stretch before, doing nothing but shouting for me to bring him in; tonight he was doing some, erm, some VERY fancy moves, consisting of never being on more than two legs at a time & one speed - verybloominfast; most of which with his man bits out! (no Bute I hasten to add).
I was worried he was going to overdo it, but, I truly didn't expect him to carry on that way!!
Not really sure what else to update with, but I sincerely hope this is the road to recovery... :(
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Yay! There you go. He is obviously feeling much more comfortable now. No reason at all why he won't be able to progress to barefoot with the help of boots in a few months' time. :)
 
That must have been amazing to see him having a loon, just goes to show how good he is feeling. I keep toying with the idea of making mine bare foot but then panic thinking about a trimmer, what if it doesn't work my farrier won't come back, what if he goes lame, he needs to be in work as is afresh youngster etc etc etc, arggghhhhhh runs away and hides from barefoot threads. Your not alone:D
 
Me again, with yet another dawning question (I know, 'SIGH' right?):

My lad is looking a wee bit more comfortable in his imprint shoes & gel pads, albeit STILL not 100% a week in (my best friend at the yard has said they can see improvement although I'm finding it hard to notice much considering I see him every day)...

I have my own thoughts on what has happened making him lame (to do with past farriery); but the vets haven't particularly pin-pointed anything except 'he has crap feet'...
We STILL don't know WHY his lameness occured & it doesn't explain why he was sound for the first 6weeks of me having him - if he's always had crap feet, what triggered this?
So with this in mind; would it be worth having nerve blocks to make absolute certain it's his feet that are the problem? I have had Xrays? Should I be seeing a 100% sound horse in new shoes by now?

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L&B said:
A broken foot? How do you mean? Surely that would have shown up on the billion xrays I've had?
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The angle of the Pastern and the front wall of the hoof should be at the same angle (as if you could draw a straight line down the front). I'd like to see the shoe longer & wider at the here.
Sounds like you've found a farrier to sort him out any way now. Foot imbalance causes so many problems ( been there myself).
Good luck I'm sure you'll get him sorted out.
 
L&B said:
Me again, with yet another dawning question (I know, 'SIGH' right?):

My lad is looking a wee bit more comfortable in his imprint shoes & gel pads, albeit STILL not 100% a week in (my best friend at the yard has said they can see improvement although I'm finding it hard to notice much considering I see him every day)...

I have my own thoughts on what has happened making him lame (to do with past farriery); but the vets haven't particularly pin-pointed anything except 'he has crap feet'...
We STILL don't know WHY his lameness occured & it doesn't explain why he was sound for the first 6weeks of me having him - if he's always had crap feet, what triggered this?
So with this in mind; would it be worth having nerve blocks to make absolute certain it's his feet that are the problem? I have had Xrays? Should I be seeing a 100% sound horse in new shoes by now?

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Be patient it's going to take time.
 
L&B said:
But what Christine, what will take time, what is it I'm waiting for? :(
I don't know what caused the lameness for sure to let it correct itself... Thankyou for all your replies :)
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We have the same problem with one of ours. We are now having a specialist remedial farrier shoeing her but it is going to take a few shoeings. He looks at them walk up and down and looks at the limb flight. He also uses a T bar to ensure the balance of the heel is correct.
The imbalance caused her to over load the inside of the foot and consequently the inside of the limb. This made her tight in that shoulder and the diagonal hind as she hadn't been using them as we'll as she should have been.
I suppose it's the same with human athletes, they have gait analysis, see podiatrists and have special trainers to suit them, we don't always take the same care with them.
 
Just thinking, could he not just have some deep bruising? TBs have flat feet and if he has thin soles there could be some bruising which can take a while to come out.
 
Just thought I'd update as I know a few people have inboxed me wishing me good luck and asking to hear how the imprint shoes are...

Billy was doing fab in them over the past 4/5 days especially. Today he was turned out in a fairly muddy field & pulled them straight off...
Now, once again, hopping lame.
Possibly having some more on tomorrow. Absolutely gutted & heartbroken and wondering if I can carry on... But thought I'd update xx
 
I can't read all the posts as my phoneis so slow.
Has he got reverse rotated pedal bones?
If so this is what my lad has got and DID have in racing but was never picked up on, when I said he felt wrong I was told that's just him.
If it is rotated pedal bones barefoot really is working fab for my lad and he's not had a lame day since the shoes come off.
 
Thatsmygirl, all I can say is lucky you :) he's hopping lame without shoes, even his plastics that he pulled today. He needs to grow SOMETHING in order to go.barefoot unfortunately :( x
 
Glue on boots left on for a few weeks can be in extreme circumstances. Yes you trade off thrush, but it can be done if there are no other options. Although I'm not sure on why standard boots and pads aren't suitible for this horse in particular?
 
OberBaubles said:
Glue on boots left on for a few weeks can be in extreme circumstances. Yes you trade off thrush, but it can be done if there are no other options. Although I'm not sure on why standard boots and pads aren't suitible for this horse in particular?
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Me neither that's what I would try if OP can't keep the imprints on ordinary but well fitting boots and pads .
 
I asked my farrier about the normal boot/pad combo & they said the number of hours he would have to have them on would mean they rub...?? I do believe the farrier is replacing the imprint shoes tomorrow. If he pulls them off again & it meant I'd have to pay, quite frankly he would be having boots & pads.
As awful as it sounds & I'm not saying he's not worth it - I cannot.afford £200 a pop when insurance don't pay out immediately. X
 
Yes the boots may rub if left on a long time. But you can minimise this with a few tricks and he'd only need them for a couple of weeks, max.

A couple of minor rubs aren't life threatening :)
 
Not to sound dim, but how would it mean he could only have them on a couple of weeks max?
He's had these imprint shoes with gel sole pads on for almost 2wks & now they're off he's in hopping again (its absolutely awful to see)?
Only asking cos I'm led to believe plastic shoes & gel pads are just an expensive more permanent (not in this dire case, lol) version of boots & pads? X
 
Can you get pics of his feet before the next lot of glue ones go on?

To be THAT lame the farrier has surely overtrimmed or he has bad thrush or something to be causing such pain :confused:

Cant he have boots and pads to be out in and be on deep shavings at night?
 
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