Laminitis with no improvement

[FFAQ]

Thinking of you today xxx

 

[holeymoley]

Gosh I’m so sorry to be reading this, I hadn’t realised there were more updates since I last commented.

I’m absolutely gutted that she’s still not improved. I echo the others that it is still a lot of pain relief to be on now at this stage. I think the likelihood of Her coming right now is very slim. As the others have said even if she does recover she will never live a life like most horses. Laminitis is the worst most awful thing for anyone, horse and owner, to go through and I don’t think I would do it again.

I don’t say it lightly but I think you know yourself what to do xx

 

[Ambers Echo]

I have been following this thread but not commented as I felt I had nothing useful to add. Just wanted to say I am so terribly sorry.Thinking of you. x

 

[LadyGascoyne]

A Herculean effort, and it is so clear how much you love this horse.

You’ve gone above and beyond, a thousand times and, what ever happens, I hope you see how lucky she is to have had you.

Thinking of you and your beautiful mare.

 

[Equi]

I hope you are okay OP, we don't know whats going on and its not our right to know either way, but i just wanted to let you know we are still thinking of you.

 

[ycbm]

I'd like to add that it doesn't matter what you decided to do, the forum will still support you if you need us.

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[splashgirl45]

hope you are ok and as ycbm said we will support you whatever...

 

[Nari]

I've been in touch with PictusSweetDreams and she'd like you all to know that she's ok but needs a bit of time and space, which I'm sure we can all understand. I'm sure she'll be back

 

[AmyMay]

Thanks Nari

 

[Pinkvboots]

I have not looked on here for a while because I kind of knew what the outcome would be

I am so sorry you will feel shit for a while I know I did but you totally did the right thing, laminitis is a horrible horrible condition and it's my worst fear with horses, my mare had ems and cushings I was fighting a loosing battle she would never have been happy being in just like your little horse.

I just hope your looking after yourself you did everything you possibly could for her and have been an amazing horse owner, my heart goes out to you sending you massive hugs xxx

 

[SEL]

oh I am so sorry - you really did try so hard to get her right and its miserable when you can't fix them. Be kind to yourself and remember the good times when she was fit and well. Laminitis is a dreadful disease and takes too many of our beloved horses xx

 

[ycbm]

I've been in touch with PictusSweetDreams and she'd like you all to know that she's ok but needs a bit of time and space, which I'm sure we can all understand. I'm sure she'll be back

Do you know whether she was given hope/reason to carry on , or has called it a day?

No criticism either way, but the condolences may be premature?

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[Pinkvboots]

Do you know whether she was given hope/reason to carry on , or has called it a day?

No criticism either way, but the condolences may be premature?

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After I wrote my post I did kind of think the same! I hope I haven't posted the wring response I deeply apologise if I have

 

[Nari]

Do you know whether she was given hope/reason to carry on , or has called it a day?

No criticism either way, but the condolences may be premature?

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On both farrier and vet advice she's carrying on, but on the understanding that if x-rays show a worsening or she stops being bright then that will be enough.

Apologies if my reply was too vague, all I was really trying to say was that PSD is ok and while she appreciates the support she just needs some time to get her head around things and see how things work out.

 

[ycbm]

Thanks.

Thinking of you PSD.

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[throughtheforest]

Thinking of you, stay strong which ever way this goes.
All the best x

 

[meleeka]

Keeping everything crossed for OP. X

 

[PSD]

Hi everyone.

Thank you for your well wishes and keeping me in your thoughts. As Nari advises she is still here with me at the moment as the vet and farrier would both like to re x ray when the shoes are next due to be done next tuesday Given that she is bright in herself they said a little more time won’t harm her, however at the minute she isn’t doing well. She is back on more pain relief as the right fore is back to giving her grief.

I understand that most have said to let her go and I am in full agreement, but given they want to just check the inside of the foot before this I am happy to just wait a little longer as she has been made more comfortable for the time being. I went to the vets yesterday to pick some medication up and had a chat with the vet dealing with her who was very understanding and said it could just be that she is one of those who takes longer to heal.

Long story short we have now all agreed that unless there is significant improvement in the x rays, she will be pts next week. I have also said that unless the improvement is relatively big she will be pts, so if it’s only 1 or 2 degrees then to me that isn’t a great deal given everything we’ve been doing. I have advised them that I am not willing to have her on box rest for a further 6-12 months (vet said this could be how long it takes her to recover) as it’s already been 4 months with no improvement. I’m really shocked the imprints haven’t helped her, I really thought they were going to be the missing link.

I have spoken with my YO and given her the heads up too, she is being fully supportive of my decision and agrees.

So in a nutshell, unless the outcome of those x rays next week are a huge improvement, it will be the end of the road. I didn’t really want to wait another week however for now she’s comfortable and I would kick myself for not seeing what’s going on under the surface, though I know what the outcome is going to be either way. She’s exhausted as am I, which is why I haven’t posted for a few days. I’m just going to enjoy the next few days with her as much as I can and make them pleasant for her too. It’s so crappy when you try everything, spend thousands and it still doesn’t help them. But I can already feel the relief of knowing she won’t be in pain for much longer.

Again thank you all for your kind words, it really is comforting.

 

[meleeka]

Thanks for updating. There’s nothing more to add, except to say you are in my thoughts. You’ve got to be happy with your decision I think or it will torture you, so I absolutely think you are doing the right thing. x

 

[ycbm]

Thank you for the update PSD. You are an owner horses would love to have.

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[PSD]

Thank you. It’s just really rubbish that we can’t be superheroes and fix them all. She owes me nothing though, she’s the best horse I’ve ever owned. It’s time for me to repay her for everything she’s done for me, I’ve been through a lot since I bought her personally and she’s been there every step of the way. It really sucks but I guess that’s part and parcel of owning these wonderful animals

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Thanks for the update. I'm sorry that you are both still struggling with this and frankly I am appalled at your vet and farrier. I am sure they know, as you do, that the x-rays will not show much, if any, improvement. It seems that they are treating this as an academic exercise, rather than feeling empathy for you and your horse. I do understand that it is difficult to stand up to professionals who are determined on a course of action. I have been there and done that.

 

[PSD]

Thanks for the update. I'm sorry that you are both still struggling with this and frankly I am appalled at your vet and farrier. I am sure they know, as you do, that the x-rays will not show much, if any, improvement. It seems that they are treating this as an academic exercise, rather than feeling empathy for you and your horse. I do understand that it is difficult to stand up to professionals who are determined on a course of action. I have been there and done that.

it is really hard you’re right. Especially when even if they give you the tiniest glimmer of hope, human nature clings to that and you believe that because they are the professionals they must be seeing something you’re not. But they both know where I am at now with my decision and it isn’t one I’ve come to lightly as you all know. I even said to the vet, I know it’s your job to save her but they can’t all be saved which is when I saw a look in his eye that to me meant I was right and he knew this pony can’t be saved.

that being said, the x rays will probably confirm my choice and things will be stopped.

 

[Ceriann]

No owner would want to go through what you are dealing with - you are both in my thoughts.

 

[meleeka]

Thanks for the update. I'm sorry that you are both still struggling with this and frankly I am appalled at your vet and farrier. I am sure they know, as you do, that the x-rays will not show much, if any, improvement. It seems that they are treating this as an academic exercise, rather than feeling empathy for you and your horse. I do understand that it is difficult to stand up to professionals who are determined on a course of action. I have been there and done that.

I don’t think this is helpful or correct and is quite insensitive.

The horse is on additional pain relief and is bright and happy as she can be. She’s in no worse condition than she was 2 months ago. Another few days or a week will make no difference to her at all. OP has already put so much money and effort into this so I don’t think there’s any harm in getting the evidence she needs to stop trying. It will make it a lot easier for OP afterwards that she knew she’d exhausted all possibilities.

It’s all very easy to comment when you aren’t looking at the horse in front of you, just reading on a forum, but the only one who really knows the right thing to do is the OP. She has a plan and that should be respected.

 

[ester]

Been thinking of you PSD and will continue to do so x nothing more helpful to add.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

I don’t think this is helpful or correct and is quite insensitive.

The horse is on additional pain relief and is bright and happy as she can be. She’s in no worse condition than she was 2 months ago. Another few days or a week will make no difference to her at all. OP has already put so much money and effort into this so I don’t think there’s any harm in getting the evidence she needs to stop trying. It will make it a lot easier for OP afterwards that she knew she’d exhausted all possibilities.

It’s all very easy to comment when you aren’t looking at the horse in front of you, just reading on a forum, but the only one who really knows the right thing to do is the OP. She has a plan and that should be respected.

I am certainly not going to debate the issue with you on this thread. Perhaps you posted before you had read OP's reply to me. However if you feel that you would like to discuss further, please PM me.

 

[scats]

Thinking of you OP xxx

 

[vmac66]

Thinking of you. Nothing else to add. Xx

 

[OldNag]

I'm sorry to read this PSD. Thinking of you x