Large sarcoid and crest toothpaste, result!

Ellies_mum2 said:
Daughters youngster has sarcoids. Vet has banded the larger ones and has recommended Zovirax for the smaller ones. Will let you know how it goes
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Yes, my vet (form a large reputable vets in my area) has recommended Zovirax for a small sarcoid my horse has.
I havent tried it as I feel its best left alone. But would like to know if this works.
 
i would say because the toothpaste has bicarb or such like in it which is a drying agent it would actually dry out the sarcoid and because of the drying process it would die and therefore drop off, any other ideas anyone. it certainly wouldnt hurt the horse at all, thats the toothpaste i mean.
 
putasocinit said:
i would say because the toothpaste has bicarb or such like in it which is a drying agent it would actually dry out the sarcoid and because of the drying process it would die and therefore drop off, any other ideas anyone. it certainly wouldnt hurt the horse at all, thats the toothpaste i mean.
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I'm a great NON-believer in wierd treatments for sarcoids BUT I also figure the toothpaste can't HURT (as it goes in our mouths a couple of times a day. IF it works it will be a combination (perhaps) of the drying - and the flouride. Have had a mare come in with over a dozen small sarcoids (and they have been confirmed by two VERY experienced horse vets as sarcoids) so I popped to the chemist - no Crest - but got the highest flouride content and started work 2 days ago (3 applications a day.) The biggest one (only just over pea size) has 'changed' already and looks like it might be planning to drop off.

My vet will have a FIT if it works!:D In fact he'll probably have a fit that I'm trying it! :D And we'll probably end up using Liverpool Cream - but what the heck.:rolleyes:
 
Well Janet it may well do the trick. My friends last 4 warts have gone. She is completely clear, and over the moon.
I can't believe way back at beginning of this thread some one accused op of cruelty for putting it on hers, saying it would be painful. Good luck, keep us informed.
 
Yes, I am the OP and I will now add that toothpaste was not painful for my horse and the site where the large sarcoid was has healed perfectly, would not know now that it had ever been there!
 
ribbons said:
I can't believe way back at beginning of this thread some one accused op of cruelty for putting it on hers, saying it would be painful.
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Admittedly I laughed at the prior ridiculous comment. I've never used toothpaste on warts or sarcoids but I'm open minded and there have been too many people over the years who have said it worked and the sarcoids never returned years later, that there has to be something to it. No skin off anyones nose whether others use it and have positive results whilst others go for the Liverpool Cream or other such treatments. If any of those treatments work then it's all good.
 
My vet arrived yesterday to do some scanning while we were putting the toothpaste on - so I bit the bullet and told him what we were doing (and showed him the results to date.) He agreed that 2 of the bigger ones definitely looked like they were coming away - and that a couple of the very smallest HAD come away! He wants me to take pics and feels that it's POSSIBLE the toothpaste will remove some/all of them - he's NOT so sure they won't come back! Time will tell.
 
Thanks JG. I've put it on a small one to the side of his sheath and it hasn't rubbed off, but has gone quite dry and crusty, so wasn't sure whether to remove and reapply.
 
I bought a horse last year with one small occult sarcoid that the vet said not to worry about. Within 3 months of getting the horse home though, about 12 other sarcoids appeared. My vet confirmed they were sarcoids, we discussed all the options and I used Newmarket cream (aka blood root cream) on the larger ones. It was really effective and they dropped off within a couple of weeks but have made a lot of mess and scarring. I stopped using the cream because none of the sarcoids are near any tack, they made him sore or stressed, and I lost my nerve. He has now got at least 20 sarcoids, all very small and once the event season finishes I plan to have a go with toothpaste. My understanding is that it is the fluoride and you need very strong toothpaste. Supermarket toothpaste is typically 1200-1450ppm but my dentist has some at 2500ppm and I plan to try this. My only concern is that once a sarcoid is under threat, it makes others appear but I'm getting to the stage where they will affect my ability to ride him if I don't do something soon :-(
 
I've tried loads of stuff for the last 9 years and nothing has worked for my mare. Have decided to have them lasered off as they are getting big and spreading. Only trouble is she is having to have a GA!
 
A friends elderly horse (32yrs) has developed sarcoids on his sheath and being elderly is wary of sedating for treatment. Going to give crest a go. Does it matter which variant of crest toothpast is used. Thanks
 
just wondered if all the people who have used the Liverpool cream having the sarcoids diagnosed personally at Liverpool?

My grey stallion had a rapidly growing melanoma on his neck. The vet diagnosed this and we also looked at his grey son. He appeared to have "something" on his neck in 3 places. The vet diagnosed it as sarcoids and gave me treatment options one of which was Liverpool cream. I decided on that treatment and before applying it the vet required photos of the places to be sent to Liverpool for confirmation.(I live a long way from Liverpool) Duly done and Liverpool confirmed this. We decided to treat them in a month to get the fly season out of the way. He was turned away and I didn't bother to look at his neck in detail.
The vet arrived along with the Liverpool cream, looked at the horse and asked where they were. We couldn't find them even by getting the photos to look at.
Treatment was abandoned although I had to pay for the cost of the cream and the vet visit.

It made me wonder how accurate the diagnosis was by Liverpool.

That was 9 years ago BTW. To date no sarcoids although as he is grey there is always that possibility.
 
I used Crest Toothpaste on my ISH. He had a medium Sarcoid behind his girth under his belly, (kids used to call it his bellybutton) It didn't take long to completely disappear and has never returned so far.

We were at a loss with what to do next as it was going to start interfering with riding if it got any bigger and previous treatments by the vet had always ended it the Sarcoid returning very quickly.

With so many people reporting success with Crest, surely there is something in it, or are all these people just "lucky"?
 
I've used it in the past and for the tiny ones it did work and they dropped off and haven't come back but didn't work on the larger ones. but each horse is different

the vet injects the big ones with liverpool cream and bands them if possible and they always drop off 2 weeks later. Applying the liverpool cream directly onto them doesn't work as gets rubbed off, causing massive swelling and pain esp the sheath area. :(

Derek told me they are benign tumours and not cancer as such. :confused:
 
Ive just started on it and I'm really surprised after a few days how they have shrunk. Will keep going as am only using it on a couple to trial it out. Thought I would give it a go before my mare has laser next month.
 
I'm going to raise my hand and say that this thread intrigued me so much that I had to give the toothpaste a try :o I been using toothpaste on a wart for the past 10 days, following the directions of others who've tried it on this thread. (I had to use the freshmint one too Aspire) My findings; well the wart has gone. Gone; not there anymore; no trace of it.

PS. It was on my leg Box of Frogs, and I can absolutely, categorically state that there was no pain, irritation or anything unpleasant about using the toothpaste (as I STRONGLY suspected there wouldn't be :D )
 
So after reading this I've been looking for the crest original 2 try on my boy but having no luck
Anyone got suggestions of where I can get it (online preferable) have tried Asda Tesco etc chemist direct, ebay, amazon & googling it but only getting fancy 1s like whitening sensitive etc
 
paddy555 said:
just wondered if all the people who have used the Liverpool cream having the sarcoids diagnosed personally at Liverpool?

My grey stallion had a rapidly growing melanoma on his neck. The vet diagnosed this and we also looked at his grey son. He appeared to have "something" on his neck in 3 places. The vet diagnosed it as sarcoids and gave me treatment options one of which was Liverpool cream. I decided on that treatment and before applying it the vet required photos of the places to be sent to Liverpool for confirmation.(I live a long way from Liverpool) Duly done and Liverpool confirmed this. We decided to treat them in a month to get the fly season out of the way. He was turned away and I didn't bother to look at his neck in detail.
The vet arrived along with the Liverpool cream, looked at the horse and asked where they were. We couldn't find them even by getting the photos to look at.
Treatment was abandoned although I had to pay for the cost of the cream and the vet visit.

It made me wonder how accurate the diagnosis was by Liverpool.

That was 9 years ago BTW. To date no sarcoids although as he is grey there is always that possibility.
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I have a very similar story. My TB mare was seen by the vet in late spring this year, for a horrible lump that had appeared on her face, just where the bridle cheek-strap goes. Photos taken and send to Liverpool - diagnosis came back as a sarcoid. Treatment would be 5 sessions with Liverpool cream, and she would probably need sedating after the first session as its so painful.

As the flies were starting, I decided to wait until autumn for treatment. About a month ago I noticed the sarcoid looked smaller - within a fortnight it had gone completely! Vet says its not unheard of, but is very unusual - there is a lot they don't yet know about sarcoids. Of course, we don't know whether it will re-grow but if it does I will definitely consider all options before going down the Liverpool route.
 
This is a very interesting thread! My gelding had a huge sarcoid on his chest in between his front legs, it looked like (am I allowed to say this?) a long turd! vet gave me 'sarc-off' which I believe is bloodroot? It was horrible to apply, in the end he was terrified of me wearing gloves and the skin around the sarcoid was burning.. It worked eventually and sort of 'tore off'...very uncomfortable for him and bled a LOT I'm certainly going to try the toothpaste if one ever comes back on him, also someone suggested ' instant coffee granules made into a paste and smeared on'? Apparently it worked for her mare lol
I was told that the sarcoid is originally a bovine virus, not sure if this is true? 'Back in the day' nobody ever heard of let alone saw a sarcoid, now there are so many horses with them, makes you wonder....
 
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I was also told about the coffee granules, tried it, but did nothing so I !would use the toothpaste again if I need to!
Its been nearly 2 months since I used it on his large sarcoid and so far so good, no sign of it returning!
 
ribbons said:
I don't dismiss anything as useless if other people have had good results, and as I said earlier toothpaste is used on the sensitive tissue of our mouths continually so is unlikely to do harm or cause pain even if it does no good.
As a matter of interest, and I have no idea if this Is relevant to this discussion, when I first read this thread I had an idea.
My friend has many warts on her hands and fingers, and I mean 30+. she has had them in greater or lesser numbers for 20 odd years. Has tried everything possible from recognised medication to wierd rituals involving horse hair, bacon and chanting (!!!!!!). Many alternative therapies at great expense sometimes. Most recently acupuncture. She is desperate to be rid of them.
So two weeks ago I suggested she put toothpaste on them.
She has four left and looking at them they won't be around much after this weekend.
I have no idea how or why, but she is over the moon.
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Brilliant - so pleased to hear of someone who is open minded getting a successful result.
 
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