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TheOldTrout said:
I did like that little terrier, I hope his new home's a good one.
Repeating to self, Blue does not need a friend. Blue does not need a friend. Blue does not need a friend...
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I hope so too, I was disgusted that the previous owners turned it into a bidding war and sold to whoever would pay most ?

George would probably try and murder a friend if I got him one ???
 
CorvusCorax said:
They're pretty common on the continent.
Most breeders will offer a replacement puppy in the case of poor health/the dog not working out as a show/sport prospect.
The return of pet dogs isn't such a big thing but I do occasionally see breeders advertising for homes for dogs which have been returned to them, they're never looking for money.
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Red IT's breeder made certain that it was clear that if 'for any reason' I couldn't give him a home for life, that she would have him back. It made me really sad though I am glad she was able to offer that. I think my reply was a bit starchy unfortunately as I have never rehomed an animal but I very much appreciated that safety net for him.
 
I sold all my puppies with a contract saying I must be contacted if they couldn't keep dog and I would either take back or help rehome. Just last month I helped rehome an 8 year old dog I had bred whose owner couldn't keep him due to tragic circumstances. No money exchanged hands when the dog went to his new home.
 
Holy mahoney!! I've just had a look at the American Cocker advert, mainly because I like American cockers and I'm too nosey but £1800 for what, quite frankly, looks like a scrag end of an American Cocker if I ever did see one. I know it's still a puppy but that's bonkers
 
deb_l222 said:
Holy mahoney!! I've just had a look at the American Cocker advert, mainly because I like American cockers and I'm too nosey but £1800 for what, quite frankly, looks like a scrag end of an American Cocker if I ever did see one. I know it's still a puppy but that's bonkers
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Yep - if it’s pure bred I’d be surprised, that’s what I meant about the advertiser being a council approved breeder. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’d bred it herself and the ‘sob story’ for re-homing is a load of rubbish ?
 
There are unfortunately a few round here that look like they have bought a puppy for lockdown and have no idea what to do with it. I am awaiting the adverts appearing on local sites
i had the misfortune of meeting one out on a walk today. I walk my 2 off lead for 90% of the time (on leads on the roads) and they are always fine, all the normal dog walkers know us and we know them and everyone bimbles along quite happily. However today we came accross a lady with a springer puppy not on a lead, that she proceeded to allow to bounce all over my 2. My beagle is big enough to be able to ignore the behaviour safely, which he did, but it then bounced all over my very petite BT and flattened her, she objected by barking at it twice and scooting under my feet so i could pick her up.
ended up with a tirade of abuse being hurled at me by the ‘new owner’ who was apparently going to report me as i should have dogs like mine on leads as they are clearly dangerous and i was such a bad owner etc etc.
hang on, it was her off lead dog that approached my 2 dogs who were minding thier own business and it was her dog that flattened mine. I think under the circumstances barking twice and running to me for cuddles was a completely acceptable reaction.

roll on the end of lockdown and the return of the sensible Dog walker. My BT happily ignores dogs who ignore her and will play with dogs of all sizes (including 2 rodhesian ridgeback puppies that one of the regulars has recently bought) if they want to play and don’t flatten her.
 
Levrier said:
So you know I said bids were open for George? I’ll start... I’ll pay you £50 to take him away, he barked all the way to the walk today ??

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Great! I'll have him, I'm sure we can fit another one on the bed.I'll pm my bank details for payment and the delivery address ?
 
OldNag said:
I will gazump you EM.
I wish my JRT wasn't spayed- she and George would have beautiful babies !
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Noo! You can't, I'm George's no 1 fan and have already told my boys he's coming. They're very excited, especially Hector who may be a distant cousin. If you continue with this outrageous behavior I may have to flounce! IMG_20200426_150905.jpg
 
I actually had to grab George and hold him to me protectively after I read this, I have profusely apologised to him for even joking about it..... ??

He looked away in embarrassment and pretended he didn’t like it of course ?

I would be enchanted by the idea of small Georges as well, but sadly he has been done too - and I’m not sure he should be thinking of becoming a father at 11 years old, although I have no doubt he’d have other ideas if circumstances were different ?
 
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Noo! You can't, I'm George's no 1 fan and have already told my boys he's coming. They're very excited, especially Hector who may be a distant cousin. If you continue with this outrageous behavior I may have to flounce! View attachment 49123
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I raise you one disappointed JRT with a hopeful one...
 

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palo1 said:
The Irish Terrier Association informed members today that they have been inundated by requests for puppies but as there are only about 350 puppies registered annually of which most have been reserved some time in advance, potential owners should expect a very long wait. Decent breeders are horrified by the wholesale trade in puppies - one post here : ''I am also completely inundated with requests and actually quite happy not to be having a litter this year. I have heard some absolute horror stories of extortionate prices, and selling on puppies for profit.'' I am glad there are no puppies available tbh but I am horrified to think about those breeds where puppies are available to idiots and worse :( Particularly some of the more challenging/high energy/guarding breeds. Gawd...:(:( people are grim.
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That is concerning. We are considering breeding our 2 year old Irish Terrier either this or next year (if she passes health checks etc) but reading this, I think we will definitely delay. They are such a challenging breed - fantastic dogs, but they'd be little tyrants in the wrong hands and being inundated with potentially unsuitable homes is another layer of stress that we just wouldn't want.

Seeing the breeds up for rehoming makes me particularly sad as in general, they are more straightforward breeds. How bad with dogs do you have to be to mess these up?
 
https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/chocolate-cockerpoo-puppy-9-weeks-old/1374657436

If I assume they got the pup at 8 weeks they should wait a bit longer before trying to rehome? Or they really just want to turn a quick profit.

Its very hard not to be cynical but if they were honest people I feel they'd try harder and introduce the dogs to each other gradually. Obviously a 9 week old puppy is easier to rehome than a 3 month old pup

https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/shit-tzu-puppy-for-sale-/1374633226

Would I be a "time waster' if I messaged to say its spelt Shih Tzu?
 
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palo1 said:
The Irish Terrier Association informed members today that they have been inundated by requests for puppies but as there are only about 350 puppies registered annually of which most have been reserved some time in advance, potential owners should expect a very long wait. Decent breeders are horrified by the wholesale trade in puppies - one post here : ''I am also completely inundated with requests and actually quite happy not to be having a litter this year. I have heard some absolute horror stories of extortionate prices, and selling on puppies for profit.'' I am glad there are no puppies available tbh but I am horrified to think about those breeds where puppies are available to idiots and worse :( Particularly some of the more challenging/high energy/guarding breeds. Gawd...:(:( people are grim.
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The same is happening with Lancashire Heelers, only 140 registered last year and breeders are being flooded with enquiries. I think people are just working through the breeds to try and find a puppy, its crazy.
 
Schipperke club: *tumbleweed* ?

29 registrations last year, no-one wants an angry fruitbat.

Am I right in thinking that resales of dogs under 6 months of age by anyone but the breeder are illegal in England now, since the introduction of ‘Lucy’s Law’? Or does this only apply to commercial/licensed breeders?
 
blackcob said:
Schipperke club: *tumbleweed* ?

29 registrations last year, no-one wants an angry fruitbat.

Am I right in thinking that resales of dogs under 6 months of age by anyone but the breeder are illegal in England now, since the introduction of ‘Lucy’s Law’? Or does this only apply to commercial/licensed breeders?
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"Angry fruitbat":p:p:p.........oh, I really want one now........
 
Apercrumbie said:
That is concerning. We are considering breeding our 2 year old Irish Terrier either this or next year (if she passes health checks etc) but reading this, I think we will definitely delay. They are such a challenging breed - fantastic dogs, but they'd be little tyrants in the wrong hands and being inundated with potentially unsuitable homes is another layer of stress that we just wouldn't want.

Seeing the breeds up for rehoming makes me particularly sad as in general, they are more straightforward breeds. How bad with dogs do you have to be to mess these up?
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Fantastic plan to breed if your girl is good for that; the world needs more good ITs!! I very much hope that in time (not for a couple of years at least) I could have another IT as I have never had such a brilliant dog BUT I have taken heed of the many cautions about them and have worked hard to ensure that my chap fits in nicely with our ways of life.

He is now about 17/18kg, super confident and bold and if allowed to be wild, he would really be a serious handful and probably deeply anti-social. I dread to think of what might happen with these breeds if people take them on because they think they are 'super-cute' or a novelty of some other kind. Thankfully Irish terriers are not fashionable or popular and their reputation for not being especially easy is probably a good thing in some ways. I guess the only way forward is for breeders is to exercise extreme caution and extreme vetting of new homes. I was certainly given an MI6 style investigation which I really welcomed - not really knowing quite what I was taking on. I needed to really have the support of the breeder who would have told me if our lifestyle/set up was not suitable though I would have been gutted if it hadn't worked out.

As you say, how bad do people have to be to mess up straightforward breeds ?? I do wonder just how responsible some of the sellers of these dogs are tbh. I would expect, with a good dog/litter for there to be homes ready and possibly a waiting list. Friends of mine that breed (whippets) only breed when they have a list of ready homes though I know that sometimes things happen so that a home might not work out. I find it really heartbreaking to think of puppies being rehomed. :( How the hell does anyone actually have the heart to take a dog away from it's mother and then a few weeks later decide to turn it's life upside down again fgs????!! But what do I know? I don't breed dogs and don't really have much knowledge of that part of life other than as a happy dog owner.
 
blackcob said:
LOL guys, it wasn't meant to be a sales pitch, he is exhausting. ?

An oldie but a goodie so I'll share it again:

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One Pem breeder told me that it is believed they share common ancestry with schips....as it was supposedly the small spitz types that Flemish weavers brought with them that infused with the original heeler/corgi types in Wales and gave us the early Pembroke types.
After reading this I can definitely find some parallels!
 
blackcob said:
LOL guys, it wasn't meant to be a sales pitch, he is exhausting. ?

An oldie but a goodie so I'll share it again:

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Fabulous!! I have seen several at a local show and they were brilliant but clearly not for the faint hearted :) The Irish Terrier, though known to be potentially challenging is famously described as 'the poor man’s sentinel, the farmer’s friend and the gentleman’s favourite’. That could really suck you in though...!! :p:p
 
Sukhpreet Aujla said:
https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/chocolate-cockerpoo-puppy-9-weeks-old/1374657436

If I assume they got the pup at 8 weeks they should wait a bit longer before trying to rehome? Or they really just want to turn a quick profit.

Its very hard not to be cynical but if they were honest people I feel they'd try harder and introduce the dogs to each other gradually. Obviously a 9 week old puppy is easier to rehome than a 3 month old pup

https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/shit-tzu-puppy-for-sale-/1374633226

Would I be a "time waster' if I messaged to say its spelt Shih Tzu?
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Ohhhh that’s so very sad with the cockerpoo. Poor thing has only been alive for 9 short weeks and it’s already had 3 different homes. Well, the 3rd one is coming if someone is stupid enough to pay that amount.

Problem is, although this is morally reprehensible, no laws are actually being broken.
 
deb_l222 said:
Ohhhh that’s so very sad with the cockerpoo. Poor thing has only been alive for 9 short weeks and it’s already had 3 different homes. Well, the 3rd one is coming if someone is stupid enough to pay that amount.

Problem is, although this is morally reprehensible, no laws are actually being broken.
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Its just not a good look, but to be honest before I came on this forum and started researching dogs I'm not sure I would have thought anything wrong about the advert. I'd possibly have just taken the advert at face value.

Also if they are looking to rehome it then I doubt they will be spending the time and money to properly train feed and socialise the young pup. I don't know about cockerpoo prices but that seems a lot
 
£3000 for a F1B Goldendoodle popped up today. Paid that for my car!!! £2300 for pet-bred Boxer pups. Prices seem to go up £500 every day!

Also JRT being "rehomed" at 8 weeks for £850. How long did you have that pup for, half an hour???
 
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