Lisa Walsh (dog breeder Norwich)

She has falsely advertised the puppies as KC registered, they aren't, Trading Standards have said that that is good enough reason for her return the deposit but i won't hold my breath!!!!
 
Plushi said:
She has falsely advertised the puppies as KC registered, they aren't, Trading Standards have said that that is good enough reason for her return the deposit but i won't hold my breath!!!!
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Good she has no right to keep your deposit and if she does threaten her with the police as she is misleading people to get money from them. My friend went to the police and they did an investigation and raided the house as the guy was selling KC registered dogs that weren't and had not been vaccinated when he said they had.
 
It would be a small claims thingy then,you would need to prove all you said..is it worth it..I don`t think so . Mistake made,learn by it and move on.
 
I just don't understand how this even works....

When my pup was born, I knew the hour he came out-Deb texted me. I met them for the first time at 2 weeks but I had had 4 photos before that!!

Then I saw them every single week between 2 weeks and 8 weeks, when I brought him home. I still take Bracken to see Deb about every two weeks.

Oh, and I meant mum when she was pregnant too! Deb wanted Thistle to get to know me well before she gave birth, so that she was happy when she'd had the pups.

She already has a 10 person long waiting list for the next time she breeds-she won't put This to stud until Feb next year!!!

I just don't understand why people don't expect this sort of contact with the breeder of their dogs. I don't understand how backyard breeders make any money!

Even with Chlo, when I was unbelievably naive, I visited her 3 times before we paid a deposit, and twice after before we picked her up.

Insist on knowing everything!!
 
dont the kennel club keep a list of breeders that they recommend for all breeds? dont understand why people dont start off by contacting kennel club getting breeder details then taking the time to get to know the breeder before getting a pup. if you are serious about buying a well bred quality pup why not put in the time and effort. research research research!!!!! go to dog shows or go to training classes and talk to people ask loads of questions then when you are totaly sure of the breeder wait for the litter of pups.
I found a wonderful breeder and i have had four fabulous pups from her and i have over the years happily waited months for her to have puppies and thats part of the excitement of getting the pup, you meet mum,dad sisters,brothers,uncles and aunts, its lovely you invest in what that breeder is doing and in return they trust you with something very special.
A good breeder is all ways just a phone call away and will offer untold advice and support.
 
Just an update.

We went to see Lisa Walsh this evening to confront her about her activities.

She said that all the negative reports were down to jealousy. Interestingly the Farm on which she lives now have large notices up saying that they have nothing to do with the puppy breeder in the house and do not approach them regarding the health of puppies purchased. When quizzed about this she said she is in the middle of a dispute with them over the house she is renting and they are spreading rumours.

When asked about the fact that I couldnt find the mother of the puppy on the KC website she acted confused and said I must have spelt it wrong, I said I spelt it exactly as she had told me...she had no answer for this.

When asking for deposit back not surprisingly she flatly refused, I pointed out she took the "non refundable" deposit fraudulently as she advertised puppies as KC registered and they aren't she said that Trading Standards had her papers which is why they weren't, she had never mentioned this before and had no answer when I said this just that they were registered...they aren't there is no two ways about it, advised I would inform Trading Standards and Preloved as she was lying in her adverts, on checking this evening all her adverts in all names have disappeared, luckily I printed off copies, also asked why she has several adverts in different names but with the same picture of three puppies, she said there are two names licenced at the site and it was a nice pic as puppies are hard to take photos of, I said I think not and again she is making a misrepresentation in her adverts and again she had no answer.

I knew she would not refund the deposit so we left saying it would be taken further, as we left we were approached by one of the farm workers who had seen what had taken place and he had said that we weren't the only ones he had seen this happen to they have loads of ppl coming to the farm to complain about sick animals and she does nothing. She has not paid rent in 6 months and they have had signs saying the puppies have nothing to do with the farm taken down or destroyed. He also advised that they have heard that she buys in puppies from travellers and sells them as parts of litters which is why all sorts of diseases are being introduced. He has taken my telephone number and the farm owner will contact me to give me details of their action to support mine.

I am amazed the South Norfolk Council still licence this woman as the place smells to high heaven, she says she has no hot water and asbestos in her buildings ......hardly a good environment to keep the 20 dogs she finally admitted to me she has.

She admitted to me that she is under investigation by Trading Standards, I will be contacting them on Monday with all of the evidence I have found about her including copies of adverts she has now removed and will also lodge a complaint about the council. If anyone on here has had dealings with the woman I would suggest you do the same as the council state they have never had a complaint about a sick animal.....I find this very surprising.

Even if I don't get the deposit back I will do everything possible and complain to everyone possible to try and get this woman shut down - she is very very convincing and has obviously had lots of experience in conning people but at the end of the day it's the dogs and puppies I worry about.
 
Well done she has got herself in more trouble now by not giving the deposit back. She has committed a bigger fraud than selling unhealthy, unregistered puppies she is taking money from people for free.
 
Hi everyone. Hope you are all well. This cruel woman has messed with the wrong person, I am absolutely Fuming with a big capital F!!
Heres my story;
We wanted to get our disabled 6 year old son a puppy for xmas just gone. We'd been promising him for years. We managed to save about £400. Started looking, came accross a few out of our price range and then came accross Mrs Lisa walsh offering KC reg, Pedigree, vaccinated, wormed and all that, Labrador puppies ready for end of Nov for £350. Sounded perfect for us as couldnt find any others ready for xmas time. Checked her out, all seemed ok at the time, none of this puppy farming stuff came up, i'd never even heard of it till now! So we called and went to view the pups at 4 weeks old. I did think it was strange that it was all set up in her front room, pups were there with mum who seemed and looked healthy and was friendly. It all looked ok tho so didnt think much of it, i did also notice there was another room with several cages containing terriers. She said she usually has them in the barn but as it was getting cold she's got them inside. Didnt think any more about it. Mrs Walsh was friendly, chatty and bubbly, he son was there in and out. We fell in love with the only golden boy in the litter, which is what we really wanted, he was a nice size and sooooo cute. That was the pup my son wanted so we put down a deposit of £100. She said we could collect him on 26th November when he would be 8 weeks.
The day came, we collected him, she went to get him from the barn. We paid and she said she would have to post out his pedigree papers due to the kennel club delaying things because its all still in her dead husbands name, she said he died 2 years ago and they still hadnt sorted it. She put on a good act and I felt sorry for her so agreed and took him home. We called him Alfie.
All was going well till he had a poo, it was sooo runny! Phoned her and she eventually got back to me after 2 messages. She sounded concerned for him and advised me to give him some normal milk with weetabix. I thought this was odd advise as it would surly make it worse. I also asked her where his pedigree was as had not recieved it and she said she'll chase it up.
I wasnt happy, it was late so I emailed the place where we had got some food samples, which Alfie loved. CSJ foods, they are absolutely fantastic! I spoke to the kindest lady, Ceri, and she advised me to get a vet to test for Giardia. Took him to the vets and it was confirmed. With the help of the vets and Ceri, we got Alfie healthy. Or so we thought!
I've given up trying to find out when i'm going to get Alfie's pedigree papers as still not got them!
Alfie is 9 months old now and has just been diagnosed with Hip Dysplasia. At first we thought he has snapped both cruciate ligaments in his back legs but the vet misdiagnosed. After being referred to a specialist, more xrays and tests, we were told his legs are fine but his hips are in a terrible state and was most definately born with Hip Dysplasia! We were totally devestated! He needs both hips operated on to replace them both as they are so unstable and arthritis has already set in. He is a little too young to do this surgery yet, needs to be 11 months. So now he is faced with another 2 months of pain and suffering. He tries so hard not to let it stop him doing anything but i think he knows that he's gotta rest. Its prooving very difficult to keep him rested and we got months of it to come! His puppy years have been taken away from him and from my son too as they cant enjoy thier time together as much as they want to and used to, the last few weeks he's gotten alot worse and its so heartbreaking to watch. And I honestly dont know how Alfie has got thru this, he a big strong beast of a dog! lol. He's big and strong but so soft, he loves to play. Im worried he will get depressed as we're making him rest so much, he dont really know whats going on does he. Im giving him pleanty of chews to keep him occupied but he gets bored of it. He's a nutty dog and still wants to be that bouncy crazy pup. I think he's slowly realising that he's got a problem and needs to rest! The next 2 months are crucial to him, he's got to rest like he was in a cage, we dont have one and I dont believe in caging an animal so we confine him to the hallway with babygates. Its gonna be a very long and incredibly hard journey but i am determined to get Alfie through this. And although we got one of the best insurance policy's for him with £10,000 cover, we will probably still go over and have to find a few grand. Each side of the hip costs £5,000 so thats £10,000 already. We've already used £700 on xrays and wot not so we are gonna have a big vet bill plus our premiums will go thru the roof!! I wasnt really interested in getting our money back on him but this is costing so much money and we are not people that have money to spare! Its turned into a complete nightmare and all because of that evil, twisted, money mad excuse of a woman! I am sooooo angry with her, I wanted to go straight down there and.....well.....you can imagine what i'd like to do with her! But I decided the Pen is mightier than the word. So, I am going to report her and complain about her disgusting so called business. I've printed off a few of her recent adverts and printed some of the facebook stuff, thanks to my mum who's helping me by following this on facebook for me. We've also signed the petition and forwarded it to friends and family. Also found some ads with her different names on them with different numbers too, She uses the same Lab pics everytime! Also printed a copy of her selling dog runs under her Wendy Walsh name. I've also printed this thread. I will send it all with a detailed letter to Trading Standards, the RSPCA, her local Council and the Kennel Club.
I want to help to get this place closed down and get that B***H to pay the price for her wrongdoings! I want to get justice for my poor Alfie and for all the other poor animals who have been in her care, if you can call it care that is!!
I ended up finding out alot of history about Alfie's dad 'Courtmelyn Duke'. Its a real shame as he has got a great background. His mother however, 'Molly on the Moon', i cant find anything for so im guessing the Hip Dysplasia came from his mother's side.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help fight this woman.
I want Justice, Alfie and Im sure many others puppies dont deserve to live lifes full of pain, its not fair, its wrong and its got to be stopped. If I can help to close a place like this down, that would make me happy. I now know this happens everywhere and I am shocked! I feel so stupid for feeding this womans business but on the other hand so glad that I saved Alfie from that horrible place. I want to make a difference now and make people more aware of this problem!
Thanks for reading, it actually feels strangly nice to get it all out and written down if you know what i mean. Sorry for the essay, I did actually just chop loads out as it was way too long! lol
Sam. xxx
 
What a very sad story, and heartbreak for you, your son and poor Alfie. I cant offer any advice Im afraid, we always say to people only buy from health tested parents and ask to see the results. Obviously a responsibley bred pup from health tested parents costs more in the beginning but a cheaper pup is going to cost more in the long run and have a shortened life due to their condition.

I do hope this woman is stopped from ever doing this again and bringing puppies into the world that are going to suffer.
 
Thanks. My own stupidity i know. Live and learn i guess, certainly wont make that mistake again! I feel so awful! x
 
Im not rubbing your nose in it dont think that, you are not the first and wont be the last, I dont know how we get the message out there to only buy from health tested parents. Its a common misconception but people believe (wrongly) if it is KC reg it must be good. Sadly the Kennel Club dont do enough to educate people of the pitfalls and people then think that pedigree dogs are not as healthy as X breeds and it seems the RSPCA help keep that myth alive.
 
Plushi said:
Just an update.

We went to see Lisa Walsh this evening to confront her about her activities.

She said that all the negative reports were down to jealousy. Interestingly the Farm on which she lives now have large notices up saying that they have nothing to do with the puppy breeder in the house and do not approach them regarding the health of puppies purchased. When quizzed about this she said she is in the middle of a dispute with them over the house she is renting and they are spreading rumours.

When asked about the fact that I couldnt find the mother of the puppy on the KC website she acted confused and said I must have spelt it wrong, I said I spelt it exactly as she had told me...she had no answer for this.

When asking for deposit back not surprisingly she flatly refused, I pointed out she took the "non refundable" deposit fraudulently as she advertised puppies as KC registered and they aren't she said that Trading Standards had her papers which is why they weren't, she had never mentioned this before and had no answer when I said this just that they were registered...they aren't there is no two ways about it, advised I would inform Trading Standards and Preloved as she was lying in her adverts, on checking this evening all her adverts in all names have disappeared, luckily I printed off copies, also asked why she has several adverts in different names but with the same picture of three puppies, she said there are two names licenced at the site and it was a nice pic as puppies are hard to take photos of, I said I think not and again she is making a misrepresentation in her adverts and again she had no answer.

I knew she would not refund the deposit so we left saying it would be taken further, as we left we were approached by one of the farm workers who had seen what had taken place and he had said that we weren't the only ones he had seen this happen to they have loads of ppl coming to the farm to complain about sick animals and she does nothing. She has not paid rent in 6 months and they have had signs saying the puppies have nothing to do with the farm taken down or destroyed. He also advised that they have heard that she buys in puppies from travellers and sells them as parts of litters which is why all sorts of diseases are being introduced. He has taken my telephone number and the farm owner will contact me to give me details of their action to support mine.

I am amazed the South Norfolk Council still licence this woman as the place smells to high heaven, she says she has no hot water and asbestos in her buildings ......hardly a good environment to keep the 20 dogs she finally admitted to me she has.

She admitted to me that she is under investigation by Trading Standards, I will be contacting them on Monday with all of the evidence I have found about her including copies of adverts she has now removed and will also lodge a complaint about the council. If anyone on here has had dealings with the woman I would suggest you do the same as the council state they have never had a complaint about a sick animal.....I find this very surprising.

Even if I don't get the deposit back I will do everything possible and complain to everyone possible to try and get this woman shut down - she is very very convincing and has obviously had lots of experience in conning people but at the end of the day it's the dogs and puppies I worry about.
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Hi, just wondering if the farm contacted you back and what the outcome was? Im currently in the process of a big complaint about the place and will probably take things alot further so any more info on her or that place would be great. Thanks. x
 
i stupidly purchased a West Highland from Lisa Walsh in November 2011.
We got met by the house and ushered into her front room where 2 adult westies were crated and the pups were in the crate above. I was informed that the older westies were the mum and dad. The son who was wearing only a t-shirt then proceeded to open the puppies crate and climb in. I got handed a pup as did my husband. When i looked again, the remaining puppies were being dangled out of the crate by their throats by the child!!! :eek: Not taking any notice of his mother he then bent the head back on one pup until it was yelping in agony and then proceeded to strangle it.:mad:
We paid full whack for the pup. believing it was KC registered and took him home. Several days later the pup (now called Wesley) still had extremely loose stools. I telephoned Lisa and she told me to feed him yoghurt..BAD move, my boy is actually lactose intollerent and this made matters so much worse, to the point he was actually pooing blood clots, we immediately took him to the vet and he was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. I refused to listen to the vet and put him on hills prescription diet (ID) for 3 solid months. and introduced various things into his diet very very slowly (over a month) and now, touch wood hes ok with his diet. I also had trouble obtaining the KC papers. various excuses but low and behold the paperwork did arrive, only to find out that my boy...(with male sossige and lil plums) was actually, a girl! (according to the paperwork) so...doing what i know to be right, i phoned lisa and told her, she mumbled and i said, yeah well, actually, he has all the male tackle so um...you know, i think you may have made a mistake, to which she replied that yes she had, i then asked her how the bloody hell you make a mistake, you MUST know how many male and female pups you have in a litter. She got pissy and replied, "have you never made a mistake?", er, well yeah, quite obviously i have love, i bought a puppy from you! needless to say, she was almost ready to erupt at this point so i said i wanted the paperwork or i was seeking legal advice, she then told me to get stuffed and put the phone down.
seems the paperwork is a waste of time, my boys registered mum isnt his mum afterall (Trading standards did a DNA) and we assume she fraudulently told the KC, that she had 9 in a litter and purchased another 5 pups from a puppy farm, my boy being one of the pups bought in.:mad:
I dont think any of us will be compensated, but lets hope by sticking together we can have our day in court and have the bitch banged up for a very long time, i'll be first in the queue to stand up and give witness statements.
 
From now on, im willing to go on a waiting list with a KENNEL CLUB ACCREDITED BREEDER. I didnt even buy Wez because he was cheap, far from it, i paid the same as a reputable breeder would ask.
 
The way you describe that front room is exactly how I saw it last november, went in front door and to the left. My pup was in another front room which was off to the right opposite the 'Westie' room. I keep gettin flashbacks of the images of her house, the farm, the whole set up and i get so angry that i didnt see what was going on. Sooo stupid but at the same time so very glad that we saved our little man from that place! Very sorry to hear of your experience and i do hope your little one lives a long, happy and healthy life. Alfie will be having his surgery early next month, got an appointment on the 5th to get him measured up for his new hips!
I think if we somehow can all get together on this we will have a better chance of getting the B***H well and truly done for all this. I know there are more of us out there. I've done all i can at the moment, had a reply from trading standards who may want a statement in next few weeks but they were very vauge as investigation is going on, as we know, but he did say that our case might be more benificial to them as Alfie has got hip dysplasia, so we'll see what happens there. Will just have to be patient. I also wrote to her and told her exactly what i thought of her, in a polite way, and to give her an opportunity to explain herself and her awful crimes, and also telling her just how much money all this is going cost, and we're talking over £10,000! I'm hoping she has actually got a heart in her somewhere and will make right of her wrong doings. But i'm sorry to say that she will probably just throw my letter in the bin along with many others i should imagine. But at least i know i gave her a chance to have her say, before i get her where it hurts!
By the way, i dont think the KC are worth the paper they are written on. The KC should be making more strick checks on these breeders. As it stands, anyone can be a dog breeder, being KC registered means nothing! The authorities do not do enough to make sure this kind of cruely is stopped. I guess its up to us to be more aware of these things that happen in our world. Im a person that dosent read the papers or watch the news, its soooo depressing so i never knew anything about puppy farming before this. Live and learn i guess!
Just wish i could do more but dont really know what else to do or who to turn to, very frustrating! Main focus is to get my bubs into good health so he can live his life at moment but im still so angry with that B***H, and dont think i'll settle till justice is served!
Hope all goes well with your little one now. xxx
 
Sam, fingers crossed your boy comes good. Wesley is in fine ish health but we are having issues getting weight on the poor little guy. He has grown so much! im just worried anything less than imprisonment will just get her moved on and breeding again. I phoned the RSPCA and ive heard nothing. (regarding the son and the disgraceful conditions) and was wondering about getting child services involved. Sorry but a child of approx six running about outside in November with nothing but a disgusting t-shirt is not on...we could have been anyone! Hes not safe being left in her care. :mad:
 
I would highly recommend trying CSJ foods. Alfie has been on it since we've had him. He loves the stuff and we add some of thier herbs too, great stuff! They seem to have a great nutritional team, Ceri, the owner is lovely. You can get a good amount of samples too. Might be just the thing that Wesley needs. Its help Alfie so much! Its cheap too but good food. Nearly exactly the same as Burns recipe but without the pricetag! I've been a very happy customer for 11 months nearly, give them a try.
Spoke with RSPCA, seems thier hands are tied as Trading Standards are involved. Lets just hope they get a good case against her, they should do!
I'm afraid people like this seem to have strange ideas about bringing up children, what can you do, they aint ever gonna change thier ways i dont think.
Take care. x
 
We’re making a second series of the prime-time consumer series Cowboy Traders, presented by Dominic Littlewood and Melinda Messenger. Our sister series Cowboy Builders - made by the same team and with the same presenters - is one of Channel Five’s highest-rating shows, attracting over 2 million viewers each episode. The series is extensively repeated, both on Five and its sister channels, and is also sold abroad.

Each hour-long episode features families who’ve suffered at the hands of an unreliable trader. Dom’s investigation into the cowboy responsible often ends in a face to face meeting with the cowboy who is confronted with evidence of their shoddy dealings; meanwhile Melinda and her team set out to help the victims.

We’re keen to include an episode about the trade in puppies from puppy farms/rogue petshops. The next step is to identify a specific trader to feature – in order for us to be able to label a specific trader a ‘cowboy’ we need to be able to prove a pattern of ‘rogue’ behaviour and reveal a number of case studies. I would appreciate any help/information you may be able to give us about anyone currently operating that you might have on your radar.

Many thanks,

Jane Tweddle

Senior Producer

Cowboy Traders
Jane.Tweddle@ricochet.co.uk
 
I hope the above may be able to help you, or if anyone else has suffered at the hands of puppy farmers please get in touch.

I tried to pass this on to the puppy love campaign but their registeration is disabled so if anyone is a member please pass it on.
 
Now that is interesting. I would definately be up for helping them in any way i can. I will get in touch. Thanks for sharing that, it may proove to be a great help. x
 
Hi, yes I will definately be passing that on. I'm already in contact with Puppy love, not registered tho, had same problem as you. I will email them now with that info though.
I've found some names of others who have been bought pups from this woman too from one of the pertitions, they have left comments saying thier pups were ill etc and also one who has hip dyslasia too, could be same litter, also one sad story of a pup dying! I will relay all the info I have and hopefully if we can get her exposed on TV it will at least make more people aware of her and of the whole problem with this digusting trade!
Thanks again, much appreciated. xxx
 
hi i brought a choc lab from this woman at the begining of march he was born on the 16th jan 2012 i only found out what this woman was like after doing a seach as i hadnt recieved the papers she promised and was getting no where asking her ,i now know why ,i was wondering if any one else had purchased one of the same litter and maybe knows the parents names. our puppy seems to be in good health and has been checked out by the vet and we wouldnt be with out him now
 
Hi angie.
You may be one of the lucky ones, but, please bear in mind health problems are often hidden with dogs, they dont see pain like we do. We didnt notice anything was wrong till alfie was 8 months and had a slip then started limping. Eventually at 9 months he was diagnosed with severe hip dysplasia! Its so bad he was most definately born with it and now at 11 months he is facing total hip replacements on both sides!!
I do hope your little champ will be just fine and not develpo any problems.
I dont know of any others with any from the same litter but if you ask on facebook there is alot of people on there that have had alot of problems! Type in Stop Puppy Farming Tasburgh and you can join the group. Lots of info on there. I doubt you'll get any papers as he probably not kc reg or a pedigree at all. May not have even been from a litter you saw, she buys in from others like her and puts any puppies in any litter!
If you would like to sign a petition against her then please visit http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-tasbrugh-puppy-farm.html
We need as many signatures as possible so get your family and friends to sign too if you can. Would be very much appreciated.
She is currently under investigation and alot of us are hounding the authorities to get this stopped. She's been evicted from the farm house and will be out very soon so we are trying our best to get this woman's licence revoked before she disappears! Its been a long and very frustrating progress but we'll get her, one way or another!!
Please keep a close eye on your little one and next vet visit, get him checked out for hip dysplasia.
Thanks for sharing.
Sam. xxx
 
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