Sprat
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yeah it's already been requested, i'm proposing we use the ones in this FB page as they are released if people are happy with that?
It looks like she has put up the first exercise this morning
yeah it's already been requested, i'm proposing we use the ones in this FB page as they are released if people are happy with that?
Yes I saw that, unfortunately the trot-walk-trot etc exercises are a sure fire way of making my mare super hot and explode so I will be having to give it a miss this week!It looks like she has put up the first exercise this morning
Yes I saw that, unfortunately the trot-walk-trot etc exercises are a sure fire way of making my mare super hot and explode so I will be having to give it a miss this week!
i was just thinking that. i understand the pain of working at things that make the work seem worse cos I have a horse that thinks submission is for wimps, but you're right IMO, the submission is the thing that needs to improve for me, it's submission that is scuppering all the GP exercises so I really have to dig into things now to address it.I know how you feel there!
Though just a musing on something I've discovered with Topaz. Sometimes it is worth working on exercises like this with hot horses, not for building the engagement but more for building the submission within the transitions. It's something I really have to work on now with Topaz, as I skirted round some of her issues in the past as it made her 'too' hot and she was already engaged so I avoided the exercises, in reality she was using her sharpness as an evasion. Now she's training the advanced moves I actually do need her to remain submissive to me even with fast paced changes, so we're now working a lot on these sorts of patterns and trying to get her to stay soft and not hot up on me.
Same with Skylla, she's being told to pipe down the sass response and just do the transitions, I'm hoping by not 'avoiding' things like I did with Topaz it will be worth it in the long run...
Unfortunately my mare is a bit of a weirdo and I have to come at the submission in weird ways, if I get really head on at her it always ends badly. For her currently I have to work on transitions within pace rather then direct until we are submissive enough to work the direct. I have also after about 8 years managed to get sensible pole work which is now a good way of developing the submission. It can take some strategic thinking when you've got very quirky!I know how you feel there!
Though just a musing on something I've discovered with Topaz. Sometimes it is worth working on exercises like this with hot horses, not for building the engagement but more for building the submission within the transitions. It's something I really have to work on now with Topaz, as I skirted round some of her issues in the past as it made her 'too' hot and she was already engaged so I avoided the exercises, in reality she was using her sharpness as an evasion. Now she's training the advanced moves I actually do need her to remain submissive to me even with fast paced changes, so we're now working a lot on these sorts of patterns and trying to get her to stay soft and not hot up on me.
Same with Skylla, she's being told to pipe down the sass response and just do the transitions, I'm hoping by not 'avoiding' things like I did with Topaz it will be worth it in the long run...
Unfortunately my mare is a bit of a weirdo and I have to come at the submission in weird ways, if I get really head on at her it always ends badly. For her currently I have to work on transitions within pace rather then direct until we are submissive enough to work the direct. I have also after about 8 years managed to get sensible pole work which is now a good way of developing the submission. It can take some strategic thinking when you've got very quirky!
This makes her sound horrible, but she isn't she really wants to work but she tries waaaaaaaay too hard and everything is working towards getting her to try less!
this is my problem now! different kind of horse but quirky in the extreme trainer is sure we have to go head on about the passage issue we have, I'm taking some convincing only because of how hard won her cooperation has been in all other regards, but tbh it is a 50% submission problem and 50% understanding problem so i'm hoping to skirt round a bit longer trying to chip away at the understanding bit... but with everything else I've eventually just had to address it one way or another it's the big GP stepping stone that we don't have yet so it's a real mental battle for both of us.It generally bites you on the bum at some point though ?
haha ah it's bitten me hard repeatedly all the way to this point, it's just this is the biggie!!I think if it only bites you in the bum on your first step to GP on a welsh sasspot then you are doing pretty darned well!
Ah see my crazy bundle of energy is a plus point there she can piaffe and passage for England, flying change is no problem simple change.....blows her mind.Ah it's nice to see we're all in the same boat in a weird way, sorry guys .
It's definitely a balance of getting what you want out of the session in the most productive way! I only brought it up as, lots of direct transitions were always a huge no no, and would generally result in a rodeoing Topaz as she would get 'so' excited. But really it was masking the submission issues, which was highlighted in piaffe training and tempi's, if I cannot do basic transitions well how can I do 'hard' transitions well ...
Ah it's nice to see we're all in the same boat in a weird way, sorry guys .
It's definitely a balance of getting what you want out of the session in the most productive way! I only brought it up as, lots of direct transitions were always a huge no no, and would generally result in a rodeoing Topaz as she would get 'so' excited. But really it was masking the submission issues, which was highlighted in piaffe training and tempi's, if I cannot do basic transitions well how can I do 'hard' transitions well ...
Yes I saw that, unfortunately the trot-walk-trot etc exercises are a sure fire way of making my mare super hot and explode so I will be having to give it a miss this week!
He's beautiful!Chilli is here! He’s a bit skinny and tucked up after the journey, but just as sweet and cuddly as before he left.
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What a lovely length of rein he has Jiffy
Thank you!J1ffy, how exciting! He looks beautiful.