Loose horse in field with saddle attached(friends)

Having read the entire post, cookies for me
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, I don't think the owner is in the wrong at all.

Too carry on in to the night would be insane, and get the horse more wound up and likely to jump out, possibly into the main road which is not the best of ideas yet.

I think we all know horses are big enough animals to decide that when they want to go, they bloody well go, there is nothing a mere human can do (ok perhps lunge in a bridle instead but).Its just unfortunate that this horse turns out to have natural talent for jumping, making it alot harder to catch the bugger!!

Seriously though mistakes can happen and do happen, think its a shame a people have jumped on this post calling the owner irresponsible and inexperienced etc

hope the horse is caught now
 
Ive not read the whole thread as it went off at a bit of a tangent but, if things are still the same, my two penneth worth is...


Remove all but one other horse from the field, make sure the one you leave is very easy to catch and wont throw a fit if things get hairy. Remove ALL access to water and then walk away for the day.

Go back later with two buckets. One filled with water for the companion horse and the other with a small feed with yummies in it laced to the hilt with sedative. DONT put the buckets down....just give the water to the good horse, do this first, and the dope to the bad one and then wait. This could take ages so be prepared to wait.

If the dope takes, get a headcollar and short rope on the naughty horse and get it into a secure building asap.

Whilst darting sounds like it ought to be a good idea you need a trained and skilled marksman to do it and even if you can find one to come at short notice its going to cost your friend an arm and a leg.

Whatever happens dont leave the naughty horse on his own....if he misses the top of a gate or hedge the saddle could easily catch and you could end up with a flipped horse.
 
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Well, I sometimes buy cobs to bring on to ride and drive and then sell as nice allrounders - bit of a hobby really.
I fancied a change and picked out a very pretty palomino shetland, he hadn't been handled much but was confident with me and had been on road, lunged etc ect...
So I thought I would start long reining him, bad idea really as I had been out the night before and was still a little shaky. Any way I had him going resonably well in a confined space so I thought I'd take him into the field. Instead on leading him through the door I pointed him at the gate and asked him to walk on. WELL it was like the beast of bodmin had bit his ass and he jumped what seemed like ten feet straight up and out, landed at a gallop and left me flat out on my belly wondering what had happend! It happened so fast the pony was at the other side of the field before I had time to pick myself up off the floor and yell expletives at everyone in the vicinity!
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lol, i can just imagine it. Makes me feel better when other people own up to ooopsies
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We had the same problem with two Irish horses new in. The two would not be caught for love nor money. We gave them 20 ACP each in buckets of feed and no chance would they come close. We spent a week!! In the end we managed to get them separated by riding two horse and herding one out of the gate down to the yard and then we herded the other one off horseback out onto the yard. It can be done - so get horses out and herd them cowstyle!

It's very frustrating when they won't be caught but it does happen. Hope you've caught him.
 
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Well, I sometimes buy cobs to bring on to ride and drive and then sell as nice allrounders - bit of a hobby really.
I fancied a change and picked out a very pretty palomino shetland, he hadn't been handled much but was confident with me and had been on road, lunged etc ect...
So I thought I would start long reining him, bad idea really as I had been out the night before and was still a little shaky. Any way I had him going resonably well in a confined space so I thought I'd take him into the field. Instead on leading him through the door I pointed him at the gate and asked him to walk on. WELL it was like the beast of bodmin had bit his ass and he jumped what seemed like ten feet straight up and out, landed at a gallop and left me flat out on my belly wondering what had happend! It happened so fast the pony was at the other side of the field before I had time to pick myself up off the floor and yell expletives at everyone in the vicinity!
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I had a similar experience with an 11hh Sec A
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little b@gg@r took off out of the building and down the field
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How close can you get to it? Can't you just lassoo it ..?
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very very bad idea considering this horse does not trust people the last thing you would do is lasoo it would only make it fear people and probably make it head shy thinking it was going to get a roped thrown round its neck when someone goes near it.
 
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shoot it....then shoot the silly mare who was lunging it...
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HAVE TO say this was my first choice, why was she lunging in a field, what heppened to the cavesson/bridle etc etc

I think its a really difficult situation. I would try and sedate him with ACP in his feed. I would also consult a vet on the best course of action.

Then I would encourage the owner to question exactly whether they are experienced enough, or indeed if there is any point, in keepingthis horse?
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What a sad circumstance - a good reason why with a youngster or nervous horse its a good idea to make sure everything is on properly BEFORE you leave the stable
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I hope it all works out ok.
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Good idea. Next time I get on one of YO's youngsters, I'll get on in the stable, shall I? Just in case it bucks me off and disappears with my tack. Heck, I'll just ride it in the stable.
Do you suggest that next time I lunge Antifaz I take him back to the stable to clip the lunge rein onto the other side. *sigh*

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Well actually PF, sorry to be penickety, but most racing yards get on the horses in the stables, as it is considered safer for rider and horse, and they can ensure everything is correct before they take them out into the big wide scarey world.

Just a point, I think they are mad too, however if you thing about it it does make sense, everything is done in a controlled environment, the landing is soft, and someone can hold onto the horse without getting towed.
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shoot it....then shoot the silly mare who was lunging it...
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HAVE TO say this was my first choice, why was she lunging in a field, what heppened to the cavesson/bridle etc etc

I think its a really difficult situation. I would try and sedate him with ACP in his feed. I would also consult a vet on the best course of action.

Then I would encourage the owner to question exactly whether they are experienced enough, or indeed if there is any point, in keepingthis horse?
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she was adjusting the cavesson and it sliped it and ran for the hills and she wasnt lunging in a field i think she was in a school and horse jumped out over does happen i saw it happen myself with another members horse and it jumped into a field with a bunch of gelding one of them been blackhawks boy.
And she is either sending it for pro schooling or getting shot but peoples shoot it reactions are really rather pathetic and closed minded god help any horse that has an off day with any of this lot around who think they should be shot.
Really hope they dont get beaten to a pulp if they have a bad day and go off on a hissy fit.

I say to anyone who thinks they can hold onto a horse that wants to get away bull poo no single person in the world can hold onto a horse that wants to get away and if you think you can you think way too highly of yourselves.
It makes me laugh how people are so quick to have a pop at someone for a mistake they probably feel extremely gulity about yet its human nature to make mistakes and we are all guilty of it at some point.
 
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shoot it....then shoot the silly mare who was lunging it...
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HAVE TO say this was my first choice, why was she lunging in a field, what heppened to the cavesson/bridle etc etc

I think its a really difficult situation. I would try and sedate him with ACP in his feed. I would also consult a vet on the best course of action.

Then I would encourage the owner to question exactly whether they are experienced enough, or indeed if there is any point, in keepingthis horse?
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am assuming you've not read the whole thread, CL...

Or your reply to myself would be a bit different...
 
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What a sad circumstance - a good reason why with a youngster or nervous horse its a good idea to make sure everything is on properly BEFORE you leave the stable
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I hope it all works out ok.
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Good idea. Next time I get on one of YO's youngsters, I'll get on in the stable, shall I? Just in case it bucks me off and disappears with my tack. Heck, I'll just ride it in the stable.
Do you suggest that next time I lunge Antifaz I take him back to the stable to clip the lunge rein onto the other side. *sigh*

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Well actually PF, sorry to be penickety, but most racing yards get on the horses in the stables, as it is considered safer for rider and horse, and they can ensure everything is correct before they take them out into the big wide scarey world.

Just a point, I think they are mad too, however if you thing about it it does make sense, everything is done in a controlled environment, the landing is soft, and someone can hold onto the horse without getting towed.
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how in gods name can it be safer to mount a horse in a stable if it rears up your going give your hea one hell of a crack on a doorway or roof depending on size of horse level of roof that is the most stupid thing i have heard in my life.
 
No its a QR...however I do think that unless it is really talented I would question its worth, but as you all know I'm a horrible bitch! lol!
 
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No its a QR...however I do think that unless it is really talented I would question its worth, but as you all know I'm a horrible bitch! lol!

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well does that mean if your not an olympic level rider i can come and smash you across the back of the head and do away with you or if someone wants to be a singer but is not that good they should be shot,and yes i am comparing humans to animals but we all have a right to live on this earth despite us having natural talent or not.
 
Cellie, Has she caught the horse yet? TBH I can think of worst things than a horse out all night with a saddle under its belly! How is your friend feeling?
 
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Cellie, Has she caught the horse yet? TBH I can think of worst things than a horse out all night with a saddle under its belly! How is your friend feeling?

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there is a post on the first page regarding an action plan to catch it involving leaving one horse out removing the rest and vets intervention.
 
I have spoken to the lady on the phone and got the 'full' story. They have excellent help and advice. This was a one off thing the horse knew what it was doing.
They just wanted suggestions to help catch it. It all makes sense when you speak to the lady.
I offered to go and help as i am more of a doer than adviser - it doesn't come out right.
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They were all set this afternoon.
I know we all different and have a right to free speach but when you are in a difficult situation some things can come across as nasty.
I realy do feel for the lady that put this on. The horse is being a monster enjoying the lush grass haveing no problems with the saddle. As i said before has no-one else ever had an oopsie?
 
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how in gods name can it be safer to mount a horse in a stable if it rears up your going give your hea one hell of a crack on a doorway or roof depending on size of horse level of roof that is the most stupid thing i have heard in my life.

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well, i do first backing in a stable too... but i make sure it's a big stable with no low beams (roof in my barn is about 30' high) and no low doorway, and lower door is kept shut anyway. it is a very safe and reassuring way of doing it for the horse, honestly. it's how i was taught, and it works.
the dismissiveness of some people on this forum never ceases to astound me!
 
well i worker for someone who rides for GB and we never got on babies or any aged horse in a stable i have always been tolo in 20 years its dangerous so we can all have our individual opinions on it.
 
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Well actually PF, sorry to be penickety, but most racing yards get on the horses in the stables, as it is considered safer for rider and horse, and they can ensure everything is correct before they take them out into the big wide scarey world.

Just a point, I think they are mad too, however if you thing about it it does make sense, everything is done in a controlled environment, the landing is soft, and someone can hold onto the horse without getting towed.
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They certainly didn't at the yard PF and my other horses came from, but if you say so, I'll take your word for it. And even so, with all the care they take, horses are STILL regularly lost (not for long though) on the gallops, fully tacked up.
Point is, we all do things that in retrospect we shouldn't have done; that poor girl who opened a can of drink when riding and tragically paid with her life, for example, and wasn't there another girl who was killed by her horses as she led them to the field??- there's nothing to be gained now by saying what the owner should or shouldn't have done as if nothing like that could ever happen to us. It could.
 
Just re reading some of my old posts .Horse wasnt lunged in field but in the manage when he was taken out she tried to adjust cavesson that is when the silly b******** decided to take off.Normally she puts head collar round his neck before doing anything just a one of mistake.
 
yes he has, there was a thread somewhere, and he has gone back out in the field now with a headcollar on, they buddied him up with some horses and he followed them in, saddle wasn't damaged either
 
What a relief - I was following this thread and didn't realise that the outcome was put on another thread. Perhaps you could put the link to that on this one? There were quite a few of us who were/are genuinely interested in what happened in the end.
 
yes and hes fine .He has been coming in twice a day for handling and behaving himself.Just a blip lol hes buddied up nicely with my horse and is really settled.They are getting a expert out next week for extra help incase there are any behavioural issues that can be addressed.He really just had a stupid moment and is none the worse .
 
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