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Oh dear that rains on my parade a bit but I am still looking forward to seeing her tomorrow. I am grateful they are driving her from Warwick to us for us to see her as long distances in the car are not easy. I suppose she has value as legally she could breed another two litters but we don't want to do that.
 
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blodwyn1 said:
Oh dear that rains on my parade a bit but I am still looking forward to seeing her tomorrow. I am grateful they are driving her from Warwick to us for us to see her as long distances in the car are not easy. I suppose she has value as legally she could breed another two litters but we don't want to do that.
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It’s like anything that is for sale, if she’s worth it to you then that’s all that matters. She does look lovely and I’m sure she’ll be a lucky girl to have a home with you.
 
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blodwyn1 said:
Oh dear that rains on my parade a bit but I am still looking forward to seeing her tomorrow. I am grateful they are driving her from Warwick to us for us to see her as long distances in the car are not easy. I suppose she has value as legally she could breed another two litters but we don't want to do that.
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They are doing the right thing by her in the main, finding her a suitable home. She looks like my ‘Red’ and is vaguely related (as most red working labs are tbh!) and mine is a lovely calm girl. Exciting times ahead for both you and her.
 
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I'm really sorry you've lost your old dog, they leave a massive gap in our lives.

With regard to the fox red bitch did you find out
her hip and elbow scores?
 
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Hi Blodwyn, I have an interest in breeding Labs, and have
a fully health tested stud dog and a young bitch. I'm very sorry to hear about the loss of your retriever, it's a very sad time. I've done some googling and found your potential new dog for sale. I'm a nosey cow, sorry, the internet is a very small world.

I'm very surprised that she's bred from as her hips and elbows aren't great. She looks more like a breeding bitch being off loaded than an ex worker, both her litters are to a dog that it looks like they also own.

She has some pretty good working breeding and I'd say looking at her lines will require quite a bit of training and input in the brain department to keep her happy, together with a reasonable amount of physical exercise. She could be quite high maintenance. However she also looks lovely and I can see why you're smitten.

Please be careful that you're not making a hasty decision that you'll regret.

If you're not bothered about hip and elbow scores and potential onward exercise and behavioural training please consider a rescue rather than someone who is trying to sell on a dog under less than perfect circumstances.

Please don't be offended by what I've said. If it makes you take a step back and think then it's all good.
 
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Blodwyn just to give you some comparison to think about. Our first bitch (the show girl) was 3 years old, not speyed but had never been bred as her temperament for showing was not ideal and a trait not wanted in any possible offspring. However her parents on both sides both had excellent hip, eye and I think one other score but cannot remember what it was, she had a very impressive showing pedigree too. The hip score was imperative to us as we had lost our 6 year old lab on the operating table, she had hip and elbow dysplasia very badly and became very ill, the meds to try and slow down her dysplasia had eaten away half her stomach, they had no choice but to euthanise on the table, with our permission of course. The show girl was free as soon as they had checked out the home we were offering her.

The second lab also had a very impressive working dog pedigree and had excellent hip and eye scores and she had bred one litter, only one pup survived. We paid €300 for her. she was a true runner, so pretty much worthless as a Field Trials dog, we have managed to retrain her to a certain extent, but the urge to just run off after prey will always be a risk we have to carefully manage.

We had both of them speyed as soon as we could as we have no wish to breed at all. Thistle's note of caution is very wise IMO. I would not wish anyone to go through the trauma of a young dog with any genetic problem having to be euthanised long before their time was due.

I also apologise for being a negative nelly, but would proceed with caution if you see what I mean?
 
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I have had labs from the north west rescue and follow them on Facebook. They have dogs streaming in at the moment, mostly because people can’t afford to pay for operations at vets or because they can’t afford to keep them (very different to the “usual” reasons people give up dogs now people are so skint). Might it be worth looking further afield before you buy the first you see?
 
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blodwyn1 said:
Oh I wish I had never mentioned her! I am still looking forward to meeting her and like when buying horses it's unfair to identify her online...Let's see what tomorrow brings
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I am so sorry I really didn't want to upset you in anyway, just the opposite. Good luck with the meeting I hope it goes well for you.
 
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We rehomed a 'chocolate Lab' in July. We met her in her then home, took her for a short walk with our dogs, liked what we saw and put her in our car to bring home. It turns out that she is more Pointer than Lab (fairly sure from the paperwork that she is a throwback) but it really doesn't matter. Yes she's as mad as a wasp but she gets on well with our pair and Daycare Dog and that's what's important.
I hope you like what you see tomorrow.
 
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Those who are pointing out the negatives are trying to help you I am sure. I don't know what the scores are but someone breeding from a dog with higher scores does not get brownie points from me. However, if you really fall for her I would say that the fact they are prepared to bring her down to you means they are pretty keen to get rid, which gives you strong bargaining powers. I would offer a lot lower than whatever they are asking. As others have said, the breeders I know who have rehomed ex breeders , generally to give the dog more one to one attention, usually do so for free or for a token amount.
 
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