Magnetic Headpiece - the verdict!!

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how interesting.

i wont be typing what i really think here...not like me i know..because i cannot be bothered with the crap that would come as responses to my posts......

but if the OP has money to spend on so called quick fixes and it makes her happy then so beit...

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So that's not a dig.
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Well I just bought the whole Barnsby calming bridle (including magnetic headpiece) for £85 so well pleased. Don't think that is expensive for a well made english bridle. If it works great if not still got a nice bridle and the headpiece is well designed for no pinching and even pressure distribution.
So thanks Tempi for letting me know about this product.
 
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how interesting.

i wont be typing what i really think here...not like me i know..because i cannot be bothered with the crap that would come as responses to my posts......

but if the OP has money to spend on so called quick fixes and it makes her happy then so beit...

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So that's not a dig.
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not at all......

WHERE is the "dig"??
 
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Stop splitting hairs, I can't be bothered with this anymore.

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you raised the subject...not splitting hairs here...

in my defence i did not give the OP any "digs", and therefore i rest my case....
 
I'm so surprised that people are prepared to spend so much hard earned cash on something that is so simply and cheaply made.

£85 for a quality bridle with an integral magnetic headpiece is one thing but £60 for a bit of padded leather and some magnets??

Are people being ripped off or are these magnets something specialised that you can't get from a magnets dealer?
 
Oh look a few more muppets to have a dig at!!!
Christina Liebherr - "Christina Liebherr jumped to Silver medal glory at this years European Championships using the Barnsby FTS magnetic crown piece."
The Barnsby FTS Crownpiece is already causing a stir on the international show jumping circuit. Riders such as Nick Skelton, Rob Raskin, Christina Liebherr and Candice King have reported excellent results when used for both training and competition purposes.

I know H&H did their own review which included a mention of the top riders trying this out. I dont think this poster deserved the insults thrown at them. I dont make rude comments to people who believe in ghosts or an unseen god, or Aliens, because it can not be disproved. Magnetic help can not be disproved where an animal is concerned because they cant be asked. We can only make assumptions by the change we believe we see in them. As I said, dont care how it works, I have seen results over the last year, that is good enough for me. And I would rather be a muppet along with some of the top riders of this country then a narrow minded individual who thinks spending a few years with horses makes them an expert. I can not be bothered to go through all these posts picking out the insults, just not worth my time.
 


And for the record I can safely state that I, amongst a few others, have stated what a lot of the rest of the forum are too gutless to put into words.

Now if you dont like that im sorry but im afraid that IS true.
 
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Oh look a few more muppets to have a dig at!!!
Christina Liebherr - "Christina Liebherr jumped to Silver medal glory at this years European Championships using the Barnsby FTS magnetic crown piece."
The Barnsby FTS Crownpiece is already causing a stir on the international show jumping circuit. Riders such as Nick Skelton, Rob Raskin, Christina Liebherr and Candice King have reported excellent results when used for both training and competition purposes.


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wow...what a shame they are all sold out til christmas....may as well turn my horse out, let him chill, be a horse, take off the pressure, stop pumping him full of protein/starch and things just might, and only just might, right themselves....

oh to live in the real world eh??
 
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I dont make rude comments to people who believe in ghosts or an unseen god, or Aliens, because it can not be disproved. Magnetic help can not be disproved where an animal is concerned because they cant be asked. We can only make assumptions by the change we believe we see in them. As I said, dont care how it works, I have seen results over the last year, that is good enough for me. And I would rather be a muppet along with some of the top riders of this country then a narrow minded individual who thinks spending a few years with horses makes them an expert. I can not be bothered to go through all these posts picking out the insults, just not worth my time.

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No, but you do make rude comments about people who disagree with you in a calm and rational manner and give perfectly valid reasons as to why they believe what they do.
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I dont make rude comments to people who believe in ghosts or an unseen god, or Aliens, because it can not be disproved. Magnetic help can not be disproved where an animal is concerned because they cant be asked. We can only make assumptions by the change we believe we see in them. As I said, dont care how it works, I have seen results over the last year, that is good enough for me. And I would rather be a muppet along with some of the top riders of this country then a narrow minded individual who thinks spending a few years with horses makes them an expert. I can not be bothered to go through all these posts picking out the insults, just not worth my time.

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No, but you do make rude comments about people who disagree with you in a calm and rational manner and give perfectly valid reasons as to why they believe what they do.
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SF...Dont go there.....................
 
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Empty vessels make most noise.

Some of us dont feel the need to post our CV every time theres a heated debate.

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Does that mean if someone has qualifications which might give them a factual basis on which to comment, they should not say so? Or am I reading that wrong?
 
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Magnetic help can not be disproved where an animal is concerned because they cant be asked. We can only make assumptions by the change we believe we see in them.

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Ah but that is the beauty of science! You don't have to be able to explain everything but where there is "cause and effect" the effect can be scientificly proven even if you cannot explain the cause.

If the effect existed then why haven't we got measurable evidence for it - we know how the body is put together, if we are looking at tension then we can test for tension/relaxation very easily now. If magnets "improve" blood flow then again this is easily measurable - infact all the psuedo-science nonsense that the suppliers claim their products do could be very easily measured - so why don't we have this evidence? Why is there not a single, reliable, scientific paper that supports the argument that magnetic products work - we don't need to be able to explain but as far as I am concerned there is no reason why we can have evidence that they exert cause and effect.

Tempi - I am really thrilled that for whatever reason Archie has improved for you, there is no doubt that he is a very talented horse when he wants to be and if you have made and alteration to his management/tack/riden work however small and subtle that is helping him stay calm then I see no reason why you shouldn't keep going with it. BUT I do find it sad that the vast majority of people who have replied to this thread see it as a quick fix or miracle cure for what in many cases is a problem related to experience, schooling, or rider or horse confidence amougnst other things.
 
The justification is.......muppets are willing to pay. No need to refer to people who use it as muppets!

I love reading what crap you will write next. Why the need for this comment?

There is no problem with an opposite view, just no need for it to get personal, oh forgot this is the H&H forum! Doh
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The justification is.......muppets are willing to pay. No need to refer to people who use it as muppets!

I love reading what crap you will write next. Why the need for this comment?

There is no problem with an opposite view, just no need for it to get personal, oh forgot this is the H&H forum! Doh
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dont quote either of those quotes using my user name....neither came from me magic104.....

thank you...
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using QR could save a lot of confusion....
 
Just happened to be where you were at the time. the replies are not always instant, as we all know, I have many times typed a reply but will be in the middle of something else & it can be a few minutes before it is finished & posted. Sorry you were offended.
 
. BUT I do find it sad that the vast majority of people who have replied to this thread see it as a quick fix or miracle cure for what in many cases is a problem related to experience, schooling, or rider or horse confidence amougnst other things.

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My point entirely....
 
Get real.Our horse is 11 years old ,we bred him and he is a super mover and jumper but is VERY spooky in life and has strong flight senses.
He has been produced carefully and quietly but weaves in the horsebox and is very tense in dressage.
My daughter's 5 year old is the opposite, he is laid back and relaxed and excells in dressage.
We are not after a quick fix, we would love a miracle cure and will try anything to help him.
There are more things in this world than we will ever understand and even if it is belief ,then great,if it works.
In a couple of weeks I am going to try on [ horse resting at present] I will not tell my daughter I have put it on, I will see if she notices a difference.He is a headshaker so he has some form of pain in his head ,he wears a nose net which helps but I would love to give him something to help him relax and not worry so much.
Sorry if some of you think this is wrong or I am mad
 
Excuse me, i quoted the vast majority.. you only need to see all the problem horses for sale, which most of the time just need squaring up, bought by people with no confidence.
 
A lot of these problem horses actually have problems! And no amount of squaring up is going to resolve the issue until the owner finds it. I had a TB mare ruined by this "squaring up" & being told she was cold back, when in fact she had muscel damage & was in discomfort everytime a saddle was put on her. VERY experienced people got it totally wrong, & the mare took unecessary beatings. There could be 101 things the matter, but the horse is telling you something is wrong even is that happens to be "You are a crap owner & I am in charge". And by that statement I am saying not every horse is in pain or discomfort. I have been around horses & people long enough to know that 20, 30, whatever years does not an expert make.
 
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