Marestare - Mare looks like she is in labour (?)

I wish she would just P off now, and leave them to it! I'm sure the mare would get her foal up, and in the right place - nature has a funny way of sorting things out!

So, if this woman has/ever has a baby........
"Yep, can just see the head crowning - let's get those forceps on, and pull it out now. Right, she's had the baby, let's get the midwife straight in, no nonsense, stick it on the boob, change the sheets, stick the boy/girl balloons up. What? You want a quiet half hour or so with your baby? You're tired? You want to rest? Bonding? Cuddles? Don't be ridiculous, that's MY job!"
 
MrsMozart said:
A quick learner! It's taken Dizzy six and a half years to realise that walls taste good!

Spot the hoss that has taken to knawing on her door frame. Ho hum.
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Lol! Was he chewing the bed then? I wasn't sure! How long should it take for the afterbirth to be delivered?
 
I can't believe it, I must have missed the birth by about ten minutes! If only I hadn't chosen that exact moment to watch the finale of Friday Night Lights. Ah well, Texas Forever :p
 
MrsMozart said:
What is the handler doing with the placenta/sac?

When do they take the bandage off?
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She's tied the sac/umbilical cord up so that it isn't trailing on the ground.

I can't answer you on the tail bandage question sorry. I never use tail bandages. I plait my mares tails up and I usually unplait them the following day once all the yucky stuff is out and mare is all nice and clean again. You don't want all that sticky stuff on the mares tail as it's a nightmare to get out.
 
Ah. Yes, that makes sense :). Still looks dangly to me :). See, I know nothing about this! :rolleyes:

Will mean the bandage has been on a while in this instance (from what I've seen/read).

Right. That's it. I'm off to bed. I was trying to hold on until he'd had a drink, but my eyes are putting in serious complaints to the management, so I'm orff.

Sweet dreams y'all :)
 
MrsMozart said:
Ah. Yes, that makes sense :). Still looks dangly to me :). See, I know nothing about this! :rolleyes:
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LOL! I didn't say she'd tied it up well ;). To give her her due though, they're slippery suckers so sometimes difficult to tie. I don't tie with string, I tie the cord/sac onto itself and that tends to hold better.

Little foaly is doing grand now! I like him :). Mumma just needs to deliver her placenta and by then I think the little one will be able to find the milk bar and all will be well with the world :)
 
Well, first time seeing a foal being born and have to say I felt a bit sick at times!!! Looked very painful to me - now I know why I its called labour and that I'm 40 and dont have kids!!:D

Thanks for the explanations re the lump / bulge I saw at the beginning -I was expecting the waters to break before the sac comes out with the front feet but it seems from the replys that the sac can come out with fluid in it and then break...

Another silly question does milk bar = teat???:confused:
 
It was probably Banamine, they seem to like using it a lot on that farm. I just got back in from foaling myself to see that the mare had foaled. Bet they are disappointed it is not a coloured given their breeding plans.
 
Could it be to help deliver the placenta along, I've not noticed her pass it yet, but then I haven't be watching constantly.
 
Laafet said:
It was probably Banamine, they seem to like using it a lot on that farm. I just got back in from foaling myself to see that the mare had foaled. Bet they are disappointed it is not a coloured given their breeding plans.
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Ah yes, Banamine helps the milk come down as well if I recall correctly?
 
Hmm well ironically enough my mare decided to break waters just as this mare started to foal so missed it all, but did watch a few of her other foalings and I have to say I wouldn't want her foaling with me. For a start there is always two of us, just in case we get a problem, we don't hang about in the stable. My mare tonight broke waters and foal was out 10 minutes later, we only assisted to guide the foal's head out safely, she did the rest herself and she is an expensive TB. Once foal is out we left her to it for a while, once we had sprayed the navel and tied up that placenta. There is no need to towel down a foal. We do help ours stand but minimally. Having read some of the threads on other forums her method of foaling is reknowned as the Element Yank, mind you they said watching miniatures foaling was worse, which I can imagine.
 
I'm not sure if this has been said already because i am on my phone and it takes too long for me to check the whole thread but on element arabians facebook page the owner says the foal was born upside down which is probably why the poor mare had a tough time, im glad it all worked out okay in the end. :)
 
If that was the case then it was probably due to the early intervention and pulling of the foal. It is unlikely the foal came out upside down, and if it was then a vet should have been there.

Editted to add - just looked at the facebook page - foal was presented upside down not foaled upside down, she turned it manually, which is possible. So you do need to be careful on what you say :-)
 
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Laafet said:
Editted to add - just looked at the facebook page - foal was presented upside down not foaled upside down, she turned it manually, which is possible. So you do need to be careful on what you say :-)
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My apologies, like i said i am on my phone so i must of read it wrong, i must still be in shock over what i have been watching :)
 
That's what she says on marestare but that isn't what I saw. She didn't turn the foal manually, she just tried to yank it out from the word go. That's not how you try to turn upside down foals.

Anyhow the foal does not appear well at all now. The mare lashed out when they restrained her to get a rope around the foal. The foal bolted with the rope around it and the mother became very upset when they tied her up. They've just shut the camera down when things started getting out of hand and she's linked to another forum who were also watching. There are speculations on there that the foal may be a dummy foal or have crushed ribs. I hope neither of those are the case :(.
 
Spring Feather said:
That's what she says on marestare but that isn't what I saw. She didn't turn the foal manually, she just tried to yank it out from the word go. That's not how you try to turn upside down foals.

Anyhow the foal does not appear well at all now. The mare lashed out when they restrained her to get a rope around the foal. The foal bolted with the rope around it and the mother became very upset when they tied her up. They've just shut the camera down when things started getting out of hand and she's linked to another forum who were also watching. There are speculations on there that the foal may be a dummy foal or have crushed ribs. I hope neither of those are the case :(.
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Like I said I didn't see it - but certainly sounds likely, apparently there is a high rate of broken ribs etc at this place and TBH am not surprised. Just watched the other link from a different farm and it looked a far better operation, apart from the door opening into the box not outwards! They wore gloves too and are in no hurry to pull foal round.
 
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