More revelations on AHAR

The authorities usually aren't that bothered about chasing up animal welfare issues, especially when funding is so tight, so I think it would be foolish to rely on their judgement on these sorts of incidences. Particularly when as far as they are concerned AHAR is at least making some of their immediate problems go away.

I find the fb stuff a bit scary tbh, at how people make it work for them with regards to this sort of thing and how many people will happily follow along. As said previously very few if any charities are perfect but I expect to be able to ask questions of any before I send money to them and all those I support have had rational, reasonable answers to those queries about why they do things a certain way and have certainly not just deleted and banned. I wonder was it like that in the earlier days?
 
Mollylittle said:
Now, i've really had enough of entertaining your ignorance.Anyone wanting to see statements (I have found 2 pages) pm me here.:-). Mooonbeam..go entertain yourself as far as I'm concerned. Believe what you want, I believe you're simply too stupid to see the truth.
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Good bye then. No one is forcing you to read or reply to me.
 
ester said:
The authorities usually aren't that bothered about chasing up animal welfare issues, especially when funding is so tight, so I think it would be foolish to rely on their judgement on these sorts of incidences. Particularly when as far as they are concerned AHAR is at least making some of their immediate problems go away.

I find the fb stuff a bit scary tbh, at how people make it work for them with regards to this sort of thing and how many people will happily follow along. As said previously very few if any charities are perfect but I expect to be able to ask questions of any before I send money to them and all those I support have had rational, reasonable answers to those queries about why they do things a certain way and have certainly not just deleted and banned. I wonder was it like that in the earlier days?
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Maybe not, but it is how it is at the moment.

Regarding the second part of your post, that is up to you. No one is forcing you to follow them, donate to them, even read their page.

Good thing about being an autonomous individual, you can decide for yourself what's right for you.
 
It also means I can reply to posts like this being aghast at what is deemed as rehabilitation and find it a bit bonkers that others can't seem to see it and are so easily placated.
 
paddi22 said:
but it IS important. you are insinuating animal abuse takes place at one place and then have a photo of a completely different place. If i was the organisers of the other fair i'd be LIVID if photos of my fair were used. i wonder if they know?
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Depends where the photo came from and if it's fair use or not. If it's copywrite you have a point, if not then what are you complaining about.
 
Chocolate moonbeam said:
Depends where the photo came from and if it's fair use or not. If it's copywrite you have a point, if not then what are you complaining about.
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i'm complaining because if someone said child abuse was happening at a house on street a, and then they showed a photo of my house, i'd be annoyed, wouldnt you.
 
Chocolate moonbeam said:
Oh for goodness sake, it's a generic photo of a fair, does it have to be a photo of the exact fair taken that very day.
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Well, actually I would expect a picture published with an article to be pertinent to that article. But I suppose horses, fairs, dogs ducks....what does it ,matter if they arent connected to the associated prose as long as they keep people sending in the donations....
 
stormox said:
Well, actually I would expect a picture published with an article to be pertinent to that article. But I suppose horses, fairs, dogs ducks....what does it ,matter if they arent connected to the associated prose as long as they keep people sending in the donations....
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Well it would have been really.

In a post about a fair there was a photo depicting a fair.
 
stormox said:
So in a posted article about a particular horse it would be ok to put a picture up of another horse?????
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This is really a stupid argument. It was a photo from an Irish fair about an Irish fair that can be found very easily and simply on google images.

It's hardly the crime of the century.
 
exactly... if there was a poster of a child abuser and we put a pic up of you, youd say fine, well its a pic of a woman"
 
i'l look forward to when the horse and hound ad sections just has random photos pulled off goolgle images, because 'sure, they're all horses anyway"
 
It isn't the fair organisers who need complaining too is it?
How would that complaint go exactly? Dear fair organisers I am really cross you allowed a picture of your fair to be used on the internet?

You seemed to have missed the point of forums, suggesting people go round randomly contacting people directly rather than have a discussion here.. Most are quiet happy discussing here with the information already given as I said, plenty on the AHAR page to draw conclusions, no need to go anywhere else. But then given that you manage to misread about every other post maybe I shouldn't be surprised that you don't quite get what a forum is supposed to do.
 
I am also surprised given their regular attendance and the fact they were there the day before that AHAR didn't have any more suitable fair pics.
 
ester said:
I am also surprised given their regular attendance and the fact they were there the day before that AHAR didn't have any more suitable fair pics.
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They were definately at Puck the day before, buying. Im not sure they went to knocknagoshel though, it isnt as big as Puck so there probably wouldnt have been much there until the actual day, and Kenmare was the day before and they had a buying spree there. All in all I bet they bought about 50 animals at those 3 fairs....
 
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