Amirah
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Bless you, what a horrible situation to be in. I have an unopened litre of regumate that is yours if you want it, just pm me x
She’s not a vile horse. She’s vile to the hens. They are not even mine. They belong to the land owner. They were here when I rented the yard 9 years ago. There are loads of them. I feed them. I shut them up at night. If a fox gets one because I missed one .. then I’m really upset. I’ll
Look into some form of fencing around her field. But it’s an acre ! They will fly over it as well. I’m racking my brains out. And I don’t have spare Monet as I earn chicken feed as a cleaner that all goes up look after the horses.
As I see it, there is a clear choice to be made. If the YO is not prepared or indeed able to fence-back her poultry (and TBH why should she? It is her place and these are her birds), then OP should do the decent thing and remove her horse forthwith to a yard where there are no poultry on-site. But people SHOULD be warned that this horse has aggressive tendencies and MAY possibly also attack dogs and other small mammals.
If someone was on my yard and their horse was killing my stock then they'd be getting marching orders. End of!! Simples. They might be the best livery in the world but the safety of my stock would win the day.
You only clip one side so they can get off the ground and flap about but not fly properly. If you clip both wings it grou do the birds and puts them at risk from fox etc.Wouldn’t clipping wings make the chickens more vulnerable to being killed by a fox? Maybe that’s more acceptable than being killed by a horse?
Hear, hear.The OP rents the entire space- shes not a livery. The owner of the yard has no involvement with the chickens, which are essentially wild birds, and has abandoned them to be looked after and paid for by the OP, which she did not agree to as part of the deal. Why should she bear all the costs, and the stress of trying to keep them safe, when the owner appears to have forgotten they exist.
Please don't let some of the replies get you down, you have been given some good ideas, and also some absolutely bitchy rubbish, ignore the latter, you do not deserve that in any way shape or form.
If it helps, I posted on here many years ago about my little Patterdale killing feral cats that came from a neighbours property. I was very, very distressed about it and asked for any ideas how to deal with it as it was impossible to stop the cats coming on our property, and watching my terrier kill them was some of the most distressing incidents I have ever witnessed and been unable to stop. Well!!! Some of the responses I got almost suggested I was throwing my little killer dog into an enclosed space of feral cats just so she could kill them - really it was very, very nasty and really upset me for a long time afterwards. Just an example how one very useful and generally nice forum can turn on people when they ask for genuine help when they are down and struggling to deal with something. Chin up, weed out the good ideas from the bad and hopefully something will get sorted out. Do let us know how you get on.
Anyone else find this thread faintly amusing ?
These are good points. By law he has to register a flock of more than 50 chickens. As far as bird flu goes, they were supposed to be undercover from later last year until sometime in the Spring this year (I forget exact dates). If he's not bothering to do any of that he risks the lot being culled.If there's more than 50 he has to have them registered with defra, that's the law.
Does he pay for worming, de lousing/mites etc?
And when we had the bird flu scare a year or so ago, were they all contained in covered runs, again if not, it was breaking the law. We had to have all of ours penned in under cover for 6 months nearly before we were allowed to let them out.
He MUST take responsibility for his livestock and anyone who is involved with it also has a duty of care to stop his neglect as that is what it is, you are making it worse by feeding them. All the time you do it will continue, if that sounds harsh it's because it's the truth.
If it were me in that situation I would catch the birds, de louse/mite them, worm them, if none of this is done regularly and by the sounds of it, it isn't and re home what I could and cull the ones I couldn't. Kindest thing to do for all concerned.
These are good points. By law he has to register a flock of more than 50 chickens. As far as bird flu goes, they were supposed to be undercover from later last year until sometime in the Spring this year (I forget exact dates). If he's not bothering to do any of that he risks the lot being culled.
It is a decent point to make to the owner in order to encourage him to allow the flock to be rehomed/PTS as appropriate though. No one wants DEFRA breathing down their neck.If the flock came with the yard, I would imagine that the responsibility lies with the OP. I think she should have made clear from the beginning what the arrangements for the flock would be. It sounds as if no-one has really considered welfare, apart from feed until the mare got involved. If OP has day-to-day responsibility for the flock, it won't be any good her telling DEFRA when they come around that 'they are not my hens'.
We had a Tamworth pig once that I saw snap at a chicken nicking her dinner and ended up being the pig’s dinner ?The time to worry is when you catch her hunting them down and eating them ?
Have re-read above posts and am catching up. Appreciate the OP is in a difficult situation and are doing their best.
One suggestion, and I'm sorry but it is NOT going to be a palatable one; would be to get rid of the chickens, end of, and one way to do that - and IMO the most "humane" way if such a concept exists - would be to get a team of skilled Marksmen in and do the job that way. Job done, end of, no more problem.
Like I said, this ain't gonna be a "nice" suggestion or indeed a palatable one; but at the end of the day if this is a feral flock which has got out of hand, the birds will have inbred by now and this will have compromised their immune systems, plus probably have produced all sorts of physical issues as well; most chooks I know wouldn't ever let themselves be trodden on by a horse - they'd fly up out the way! And the fact that these haven't, indicates they may be in a weakened state and culling the whole flock might well be a welfare job TBH especially as it seems that there is no-one who will "claim" them and ensure they are looked after properly, so to cull the entire flock might be necessary purely on welfare grounds.
Am not expecting my suggestion to be a popular one........ but it is something which might be worthy of consideration for the reasons I have given.
Poor op can't believe some of the replies on here I genuinely feel sorry for her she has taken a bit of a bashing.
I think culling them is a bit much ?