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Erm nope, just gave my opinion, which is just as valid as the next persons---- I am just really struggling to believe anyone with so little knowledge would go out and buy a horse.........

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I did!!!!!!

I know it was stupid, as jordanross has also admitted it probably wasn't the best idea.

Look at me now.....I don't think people disrespect me as a rider/owner because of it....do they?

It did work out for me and it can for Jordanross so long as he is prepared to invest the effort and financial resources into getting the help he needs with his mare. I had some hardships along the way, but nothing more than very experienced friends of mine have suffered with a new horse. They're all different and all take some getting used to.

I did read ALOT and was well up on what to/what not to feed in advance of buying my first......couldn't tack up or even put a rug on....but at least I knew what was safe to feed and what wasn't! LOL

I had some really good friends who would meet me to take me hacking before I got my confidence up. A novice owner can do it, they just need to be open enough and accept they need help.
 
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Patches - I was rather horrified when you said the seller could be successfully sued. Of course she couldn't

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Patches has first hand experience of this - and the action was successful.

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What, of suing a private seller for breach of contract? In exactly the same circumstances as this? I would doubt that very much indeed, because theres no grounds for succeeding in the facts indicated here. The seller has sold what she has described the horse to be, she has no duty to inquire into the horse's future home, the buyer's experience, etc.. There are no grounds for reversing the sale. Exactly what would the alleged buyer here state as being her case? That she is an idiot and unable to look after the perfectly normal horse sold to her?
 
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well i have taken some of the good advice on board darcylu.

Im gonna remove the bottom rungs of the back gate ( to allot sheep back in) in fact i did that last night after it was suggested i let sheep in the feild with her.

as far as getting out of bed earlier... i STILL dont see the problem with my routine now tbh.. i was out to feed her at 10am.. this isnt a farm, its a house! im sure there are many other people who dont get up at the crack of dawn too. but if its gonna make people happy i will Get up tomrrow at 6am! and feed her!

see i am listening to the good advice.
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A routine is just that. If you feed at 10am everyday, that is what the horse is used to and it shouldn't be a problem.
I'm on a livery yard and mine is the last to get fed. She gets done when I've dropped my girl off at school and is fed after I've done my jobs. This isn't a problem. She doesn't kick her door when the others are fed, she knows her routine. I am last down in the evening, so she also doesn't get her tea till about 8pm, the others are fed about 4-5pm. It works for me and mine, so if it works for you and Daffi, you carry on.

I would say give the mare time to settle and maybe look into local livery yards where you'll have support if you need it.

I am quite local to you and would be happy to come over (with another forum member) and see your mare. I'm not a font of all knowledge but have had horses 20+ years and could maybe see how you can settle her better.

I used to be on Lassel House many years ago, looking much better as Derby House me thinks
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A novice owner can do it, they just need to be open enough and accept they need help.

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Agree with this
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and it seems so does the OP...just a shame people have to be so picky
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Whether or not this is a genuine poster the advice is in black and white and may help someone in a similar circumstance.
However, the sniping will only stop people from asking!!
 
headlesshorse woman what the hell was all that about ? Im actually fallin off my chair almost in laughter!

Okay lets settle a few things so this thread can settle down

firstly you referred to me as a she... im a he.

im not american! I live in belmont bolton! I havent yet posted a picture because im still very new to this particular website.



But im gonna do one better and make a small video... and post it on youtube? dont worry...i,ll give the site a shout out maybe THEN... the people who are hell bent on thinking im some fake troll will stfu
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some of you are saying im NOT taking the advise im being given... you obviously dont read. I am taking the advice given! that is why i am here. im listening ( or reading in this case)

And i have devised a plan. ive said this twice already nobody seems to be reading what im saying!

1, im going to give the sheep acess to the feild again. therefore she will have company in the form of sheep!

2, im not going to ride her again just yet, to give her plenty more time to adjust to her new enviroment.

3, im going to ( relucatantly) get up at 6 am tomrrow and start a new rotuine because daffi is so hard done by at the min ( joke) but i will try the new routine in any case.

is that okay? or are you still thirsty for blood ?
 
Im gonna take myself outside right now and do a little video....hope all the people who dont beleive in me can stick around for the next ten mins or so? I will show you who i am... and also show you daffi etc.


brb!
 
I hope you dont think im pushing you into getting up mega early!
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I know plenty of yards who sort their horses out at 8/ half past ish, honestly i didn't mean to go extremes. Find a time that suits you both x
 
If your horse still has hay left in the morning ie she is getting more than enough then IMO it doesn't matter what time you do her. You've already said she's in a converted garage which I'd imagine means this is no pokey little stable here but spacious. I see no problem there.
My personal opinion is that horses, at this time of year especially, are better off living out. Maybe thats something you could work towards especially if you like your lie ins
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I would also get an instructor out for the next time you attempt to ride her at least then you will have some help if she starts being difficult. I agree with letting her live out if she settles down with her woolly companions, and i don't see that you have to get up at 6am every day to see to your horse i think i would sooner sell mine then get up at that time everyday lol
 
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Patches - I was rather horrified when you said the seller could be successfully sued. Of course she couldn't. She has done nothing wrong and its not her fault the buyer is a novice (or doesn't exist), she clearly did not sell in the course of business and has no liability, caveat emptor.



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You may be horrified...but it is the truth. It happened to a friend of mine. I didn't agree with the outcome of my friend's case and felt immensely disgusted that the judge found against her, but he did. She was a private seller and had done nothing wrong....everyone she spoke to, legal wise, said she had no worries about the case.

So, I am sorry.....jordanross could sue and would probably win because the law is an ass and doesn't take any account or care that the new owner may have over exaggerated their knowledge, experience or riding ability at the point of sale. The law always sides with the plaintiff when there is any doubt (so my friend was told). He also told her that caveat emptor "let the buyer beware" did not hold up if they had misrepresented the horse in an advert. My friend's advert said "hacks alone/company" which was the truth. New owner claimed they couldn't hack her alone as she kept neighing and was nappy (the day after they bought her). This is why the judge ruled against my friend.

We had to collect the pony....she'd not been ridden for 6 months. My friend tacked her up on the roadside (they wouldn't let us on the yard to collect her!) and rode her away ON HER OWN from their yard. She did hack alone. Judge accepted she hacked alone with my friend when she owned her, but said as the new owners couldn't hack her alone (allegedly) that she had misrepresented her in the sales advert. Barmy isn't it? How can you possibly know how the horse will react in a new situation? You can only sell based on your own experience of the horse you're selling.

It stinks. It's not right but it does happen.

Rosiiepimms also had a case go against an ex of hers too.
 
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If your horse still has hay left in the morning ie she is getting more than enough then IMO it doesn't matter what time you do her. You've already said she's in a converted garage which I'd imagine means this is no pokey little stable here but spacious. I see no problem there.
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I agree.

How many people who keep their horses at a livery yard see to them for the last time at tea time? They may return at 7am the next morning, but their horses may have been left for almost 12 hours.

I check on my horses, when stabled, between 11 and 12 midnight. Even if I slept in until 10am (which of course I don't....joys of a dairy farm), they'd still have been left the same sort of time as some people leave others.

Having them at home means you get to do MORE checks...not less. Horse clearly isn't going without forage if they have hay in a net still.

To those who mentioned the leg getting caught......plenty of VERY experienced horse owners use haynets too. Why is this poster having every negative response thrown at them? Yes horses can get their foot stuck in a haynet....but plenty don't so long as they're tied up safely.
 
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A routine is just that. If you feed at 10am everyday, that is what the horse is used to and it shouldn't be a problem.

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Ditto this! As long as you feed her at the same time everyday then I don't see a problem. You have to have a routine that suits YOU not anyone else, the horse will adapt to that routine and will settle down with time. There is no point trying to get up early for a few days and then slip back to your old ways of getting up late, as that will unsettle her even more! Set a time and stick to it.
 
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Erm nope, just gave my opinion, which is just as valid as the next persons---- I am just really struggling to believe anyone with so little knowledge would go out and buy a horse.........

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I did!!!!!!

I know it was stupid, as jordanross has also admitted it probably wasn't the best idea.

Look at me now.....I don't think people disrespect me as a rider/owner because of it....do they?

It did work out for me and it can for Jordanross so long as he is prepared to invest the effort and financial resources into getting the help he needs with his mare. I had some hardships along the way, but nothing more than very experienced friends of mine have suffered with a new horse. They're all different and all take some getting used to.

I did read ALOT and was well up on what to/what not to feed in advance of buying my first......couldn't tack up or even put a rug on....but at least I knew what was safe to feed and what wasn't! LOL

I had some really good friends who would meet me to take me hacking before I got my confidence up. A novice owner can do it, they just need to be open enough and accept they need help.

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One MASSIVE difference patches.... you HAD very experienced friends..... and had read ALOT!!

Oh and Jordan: I'm not a bored house wife thanks, infact im not a house wife at all!
 
I did try to change my post about the whole "leg caught "incident by saying, as you all just said to find a time that suits them both .

ETS especially as they said there is still hay in it, which i hadn't spotted.
 
so what should i do? get up early or stick to the routine we are BOTH getting used to? i didnt think it was doing her any harm. as i say she is fed and watered and always clean, she lives at home and i think some of you may be forgetting this! so it isnt like i have to travel down to a livery yard she lives here all the time so i see her....all of the time ( excpet of course when we are both sleeping)


p.s video will be done in next ten mins or so...
 
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so what should i do? get up early or stick to the routine we are BOTH getting used to?

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Do what suits you, within reason.
If she still has hay/haylage in her net when you go out to feed her, then I don't see it as a problem to leave her until 10.

Just stick (roughly) to the same time everyday, don't chop and change it and you'll be fine
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so what should i do? get up early or stick to the routine we are BOTH getting used to? i didnt think it was doing her any harm. as i say she is fed and watered and always clean, she lives at home and i think some of you may be forgetting this! so it isnt like i have to travel down to a livery yard she lives here all the time so i see her....all of the time ( excpet of course when we are both sleeping)


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I would stick with the routine you have got already unless you can GUARANTEE that you can get up early everyday. Do you check her last thing at night, before you go to bed?
 
Hi Jordan,

Monty was kept alone for 4 years and was fine, although changing to living with others was a stress for him. Any change in routine takes some getting used to......especially with a tb!

I don't think that getting up earlier is the ultimate answer, as someone else has said, whatever your routine is, as long as you are both happy and you stick to it then you should be fine. However, I do think she might do better living out. Perhaps start increasing your turnout every day until she is used to it. It is horrible if they pace and stress but you have taken her out of her normal life and she is bound to be upset so you need to give her a bit of time.

I also think, if she is not in work, she only needs good quality forage and maybe a vit and min supplement in a handful of chaff.

I also know that Monty would kill himself on a livery yard, all that bustling and noise, but you do need someone knowledgeble to help you out. Also, if riding is a problem, why not set aside some time every day to do some ground work. Even just walking and halting in a halter, they do better if you give them something to think about. It will also help you to bond with her.
 
i COULD easily get up early every morning and if that is for the good of daffi then ill do it sure!

but she does always have some hay left in her net in the mornings... so she obviously isnt short of feed right?

Im now unsure what to do... you make me feel bad for not getting up early like everyone else
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And I agree with you Patches. Perhaps you were less experienced with horses than many on here to begin with but I have never come across anyone treating you with anything other than helpfulness and sincere concern for your worries, so I'm not sure if it's just the OP's language style which is raising questions over the reality of the situation. It's also half-term!

It's a shame that lately some very silly people have come on here 'Trolling' and this may mean one genuine person asking for help gets laughed off and leaves thinking we are all horrid and, worse, as others have pointed out, a horse might end up suffering.

For now, jordanross gets the benefit of the doubt with me. Anyone remember Dougie, and we still have Flintus?
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Routines need to be reasonable and if they work for the horse and owner then no harm done. They should be based on what the horse is designed to do naturally as far as possible and there are enough books on this to sink a battleship.

I get upset when the welfare and health of a horse is put long term at risk. A few days of upheaval need not be the end of the world!

Jordanross - have you gat a vet and a farrier sorted yet?
 
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i COULD easily get up early every morning and if that is for the good of daffi then ill do it sure!

but she does always have some hay left in her net in the mornings... so she obviously isnt short of feed right?

Im now unsure what to do... you make me feel bad for not getting up early like everyone else
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Do what suits you best. What about going out to feed etc at about 8.30 - 9.00, rather then mega early.

Don't worry not everyone gets up early every day!
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thank you montyandzoom! that is the kinda of advice im looking for. (big thank u)

alot of advice has been helpful dont get me wrong and i have learned alot ALREADY! just by visiting the site! i just didnt understand why people had to be so vile and make rude un justified comments. I feel happier today and im learning some things i didnt know. and think its gonna be ok with daffi now
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of course ive alot to learn and i still need to sort the riding problem out...but im not gonna run before i can walk so to speak


p.s video is on its way...
 
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Im gonna take myself outside right now and do a little video....hope all the people who dont beleive in me can stick around for the next ten mins or so? I will show you who i am... and also show you daffi etc.


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Didn't you say this about 5 hours ago? You've said several times that you are going to go and get a picture or video of this elusive creature, but as yet, surprise surprise, nothing. All fur coat and no knickers. Oh sorry, you're a he aren't you.
 
I know what it's like! I wasn't a complete novice when I got the big man but he was nothing like I expected and the biggest stress head on the planet.

I have found this place to be great when you are having troubles, just remember to take everything on board but conversely don't take it as gospel......nothing makes up for a bit of Real Life help whether it is from professionals (vets etc) or a knowledgable mate.

If there is anything else I can do let me know........if anyone knows about big stressy tbs it's me!
 
In defense of the OP re the times for feeding/turnout: I would say that going to the yard at a doable time which stays the same every day (ie, if you work during the week and have to feed a 7 then it needs to be the same at weekends; if you feed at 9 during the week then it needs to stay the same at weekends) is better than doing them as early as humanly possible but having a lie-in once or twice a week and doing them much later than usual.
 
right...this thread is getting ridiculous. i'm in bury jordanross if you would like me to come up and give you some pointers with Daffi? FWIW i still think a livery yard would be best for you as there would be someone on hand with more experience for dealing with her but if you are determined to have her at home then i think you are going to need a hand...
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