Neglected Horses - UPDATES

Scribbles I feel the same towards WHW as I do to RSPCA in this situation!

But unfortunately it is just, yet again, another of the stories about RSPCA being inadequate!

I fail to see why either organistation didn't get a second opinion.
 
M_G I really hope the people that have gone don't get 'slagged off' for helping today. So no one really knows the background to the case but honestly I don't really care! If the owners were providing for these ponies then they obviously still need further help. If they weren't providing for the ponies then now hopefully something can be done. Either way something is being done now! Who knows what the outcome will be but they have been brought to the attention of many
 
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So after all the RSPCA slagging, it wasn't just them. This topic has certainly helped the animals, but some of the histrionics shown is ridiculous.

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I absolutely agree with this.

I guess some people are just so shocked to see horses looking like this and aren't thinking straight (I know it really upset me but I just spent the night crying instead of bashing away on a keyboard...damn pregnancy hormones)
 
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M_G I really hope the people that have gone don't get 'slagged off' for helping today. So no one really knows the background to the case but honestly I don't really care! If the owners were providing for these ponies then they obviously still need further help. If they weren't providing for the ponies then now hopefully something can be done. Either way something is being done now! Who knows what the outcome will be but they have been brought to the attention of many

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Here here!
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Either way the horses are being helped now
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why would people who went be slagged? at end of day regardless if horses are being cared for or not! they went down there concerned for there welfare! rather see people turn up and try and help than go oh well and leave it
 
Just to make it clear, I was not "slagging off" anyone who has gone to help - if I wasn't working I would have tried to be there for support too. BUT I think it is important to keep perspective on things and not become the angry stampeding mob without knowing all the facts. Someone has stated that there are stables, rugs, hay etc in the same location, which would not immediately point to it being 100% the owners intentional fault. Also the presence of healthy ponies in the same field.

I agree something should be done (IMO the ponies should perhaps be PTS as obviously a reason they are not holding weight if other healthy ponies in the field).

Someone turning up with a horsebox and saying they are not leaving unless horses are on board might do more harm than good, and jeopardise a rescue attempt through the proper channels. Again, not having a go, and I fully support people's good intentions, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do things.

We don't know all the facts, and the owner hasn't had a chance at a rebutle, so perhaps lets not set the gallows up just yet?
 
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I am in horror at the thought of these poor ponies being left like that. Even more so that a vet said they were not suffering - he should be made to give his reasons - any idiot can see they are in a terrible state.

RSPCA - can't even afford to give an old clydesdale rugs, hence she is now being sent some old but serviceable rugs that I have, but can afford big plush offices and well paid high level officials - not the grass roots officers who do the best they can. Time RSPCA was given a big shake down so the money went were it should - on the animals and not their head office premises and political agenda.

I hope the ponies recover, but looking at the state of them, I wonder if they will, and whether it may be kinder to pts given their condition and I assume, old age. That said, I do hope they recover and have a bit of time to be fussed over and given a few years of quiet enjoyment of life.

Old horses don't have to look like that - caring owners look after them and spend time and money to keep some condition on, and when they get to the stage they can't, give them a peaceful end.

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I posted a link in the RSPCA thread to the annual report for the RSPCA it makes in interesting read!
 
yes samstar they have

zoe I think that its just that the proper channels, from the outside appeared not to be working..............

I agree they may need PTS and in which case better done on site than transporting them IMO but also better done today than tommorrow or next week.

I may not be 100% about the way it is happening but I am still pleased something is happpening and I didnt have any better ideas.
 
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why would people who went be slagged? at end of day regardless if horses are being cared for or not! they went down there concerned for there welfare! rather see people turn up and try and help than go oh well and leave it

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I fear they will be called hysterical women ect. I say go girls you have made a difference and now its in the lap of the gods. No we dont know the full story but if we waited for the full story it could well be too late
 
Right folks I've got to go to my other job now, I might get to sneak on and have a look but otherwise won't be back on until after 7.30pm
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I hope by that time the ponies will be safely tucked up in a nice warm stable with a big pile of hay!

See you later
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M_G - Well done to the people who have gone down to the site, I wish I could have
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And well done to everyone else that has e-mailed and called BHS etc. and has supported everyone, it's great that we've managed to make a difference, it's amazing what an online forum can do!
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I'm sure he did love but your point is?

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Don't you go all arsey on me madam I was jesus wepting at the state of those horses so wind your neck in.
 
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World Horse Welfare has said this morning that it attended the ponies in late August, following a tip-off from a member of the public.


The charity attended with a vet, who stated the ponies were not suffering.


A spokesman for World Horse Welfare said "our hands are tied".

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World Horse Welfare has said this morning that it attended the ponies in late August,

The charity attended with a vet, who stated the ponies were not suffering.

A spokesman for World Horse Welfare said "our hands are tied".

"In conjunction with the RSPCA, we arranged for a vet to examine them and the vet has stated that they are not suffering.


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So after all the RSPCA slagging, it wasn't just them. This topic has certainly helped the animals, but some of the histrionics shown is ridiculous.

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Originally the RSPCA attended WITH the WHW and the decision was made they weren't suffering. That was then, now is now and where are the 'experts' of the RSPCA who made the original decision?

You obviously have not had dealings with them, I have! As a result of their 'expert' opinion and calling in a small animal vet to examine my horse, she was subsequently overdosed with medication.
They didn't even make any enquiry at the house as to who the horse belonged to, or if it was receiving veterinary care. They just went off the word of an old eccentric who made weekly trips up to the field to feed the horses bread, cake and biscuits.

My own vet subsequently reported the attending vet to their official body, and informed the RSPCA to get their own act in order.
Surprisingly in our case, the RSPCA carried out their 'inspection' within 24 hours.
We had to pay to obtain the services of a solicitor in order to prevent the old eccentric entering private land to feed the horses!
 
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My apologies. It didn't read that way.
PS. is "madam" like "lady" cos I can assure you I am neither?!
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Its lady like wooooman.
Like woman *waggle finger* you better not be bibbing at me (said in a Chelsea from Eastenders voice)

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Jesus wept

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What about? The condition of the horses or the hysteria about the condition of the horses?
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What to do about neglected horses is report them.
What to do when charities ignore them and let them get more neglected is pester them and go to other charities.
What to do when vets are fcukwits - get another vet.
Really we should all be constantly campaigning to improve welfare laws to help all horses instead of going off on one about these two. Saying that I do hope someone has to give that chestnut some TLC.
 
Not been on-line as much as usual and phone has kept ringing so only had half an eye of this issue. I have to say a b----y well done to everyone who has fought on behalf of these horses. It just shows what we can achieve when something really matters to us.

I think we should have a forum champagne "party" once this has been dealt with

Well done again Andy for the OP - you've really done a good thing here!
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It is a terrible thing to see horses like that poor little things and thanks perhaps to "hysterical" women they won't have to suffer for much longer.

It they were visited a month ago and deemed to be ok then then they must have deteriorated very quickly.

Not all vets are good vets - for all we know original vet could be a friend of owners or on the owners payroll.

I doubt they would have any trouble finding a vet today that would confirm that the horses are suffering now.

Just because there are rugs and hay near by does not mean that they are intended for these horses - the horses in the field might not all be owned by the same people.
 
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Not been on-line as much as usual and phone has kept ringing so only had half an eye of this issue. I have to say a b----y well done to everyone who has fought on behalf of these horses. It just shows what we can achieve when something really matters to us.

I think we should have a forum champagne "party" once this has been dealt with

Well done again Andy for the OP - you've really done a good thing here!
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Here here!!
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