eahotson
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Where are they? They must be an extinct species.What is with this,pin the head in and chase the horse on out of balance to make it ahem "More forward",
Nice quiet riders
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cauda equina
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I expect a lot of them are pottering around the lanes not drawing attention to themselves
SEL
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I know some lovely quiet riders. One rides at GP level but doesn't compete much (trains others). Has the ability to just look like she's doing nothing.
Plenty out being leisure riders too.
Plenty out being leisure riders too.
Cortez
Tough but Fair
Good riders are, as ever, few and far between.
eahotson
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Can you tell me how to track one down.I can't seem to find one.
planete
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Go and watch lessons. That will tell you a lot about the style of both teacher and rider.
eahotson
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What I really want is someone to exercise my quiet little cob for me a bit.Some nice hacking.Everyone I see ride though rides in the approved head pinning style and think i am rather thick because I don't.
cauda equina
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I guess you need to keep your eyes open and ask around for recommendations
holeymoley
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A friend and I were talking about this last night while riding. Not so much quiet/loud riders but what has happened to positions over jumps these days- there seems to be a trend with people jumping around our area that have a very unstable lower leg. I noticed one advert on faceache for cross country and it was a teenage-aged girl on a decent sized pony jumping cross country fences and her lower leg was almost at the pony's flanks! I would have been given hell for that and been unable to jump until I had secured my lower leg. I'm not a million dollars jumping myself( bit of a woose) but I have a decent lower leg for stability.
SEL
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Perhaps someone older? The yanky, yanky rein bring the head down stuff wasn't fashionable when I was young so see less people in their 50s doing it (or perhaps that's because they CBA to compete so don't care where the head is!)
splashgirl45
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If I hadn’t given up I would love to ride a nice quiet cob on hacks and I don’t do tight head in riding. If you need a quiet rider who just wants to hack an older person , like me, would be perfect . Have you tried your local riding club to see if there is someone who would suit you.
Hackback
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Are they riding like that to try and impress you? Like maybe they think you will think they're a rubbish rider if they can't ride your cob 'in an outline'?
eahotson
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Thank you.That is a good suggestion.
eahotson
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No,so many people think it is the right way.
Barton Bounty
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I hate the yanky head thing, I ride on the buckle and only ever gather my reins when I need to , 
Rusty Rider
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I caricature a bit, but it seems to come from the English style of teaching I have seen, having had a fair few different instructors… The horse simply must be in an “outline” (nevermind if purely based on head setting or behind the vertical, or that it simply really isn’t at that level of training or fitness) and you get told to push push push with more leg and half-halt constantly, or worse, see-saw. Not something I have seen elsewhere, and certainly not something that should be bandied about as the magical recipe to getting that elusive outline…
That or putting a bungee on…
That or putting a bungee on…
eahotson
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Oh yes I am sure it is being taught certainly in this country.
toppedoff
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People my age (16-18 seems to be the peak) are shocked when they hear you don't compete, don't know how to do an outline/don't do it, don't do one massive kick for your pony to gallop across the fields on a hack ect ect
Probably why I don't have horsey friends but everyone seems to have to one up eachother
Probably why I don't have horsey friends but everyone seems to have to one up eachother
smolmaus
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Had the same chat with a German friend recently who is of the same opinion. In her experience over there you're not allowed near a crosspole until you earn it. We came to the conclusion that kids here will get bored if they're not allowed to jump for months/ years in riding schools so as long as you're not falling off you're good to go.
I don't go in for generational stereotypes generally BUT my token teen friend was getting on to me the other day about how I need to "collect" my little cob who doesn't even have an established canter yet and is in the middle of a physio strengthening programme. Priorities??????People my age (16-18 seems to be the peak) are shocked when they hear you don't compete, don't know how to do an outline/don't do it, don't do one massive kick for your pony to gallop across the fields on a hack ect ect
Probably why I don't have horsey friends but everyone seems to have to one up eachother
TPO
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Those unstable and gripping up lower legs always seem to have spurs too
A good rider will be able to ask the horse to start to use itself correctly and move in the optimum way for its well being. Slopping around on loose reins with the horse stretched across two counties can be just as damaging.
A lot of good riders know their value so usually require payment for their services.
FestiveG
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Can you find a school which has been going for a long time? It is more likely that their teaching methods won't have changed as much and they may still teach people how to ride! Then poach one of their riders
Marigold4
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Jellymoon
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This reminds me of a time a couple of years ago: I had just done a hunt fun ride where we had ended up riding round with a friends teenage daughters and a couple of younger kids these girls were ‘teaching’. The friends teenagers were in lovely young ponies they buy from Ireland, being on, and sell.
Anyway, I send a DM to a friend having a bit of a rant about how they were in quite strong bits in these young ponies and had their heads pulled in the whole time. For a whole 2 hr ride. And sent it to the mum by mistake. Whoops.
How to wriggle out of that one. I tried to make out I was wondering if that’s how I should be riding these days! Prob dug myself a deeper hole.
Anyway, I send a DM to a friend having a bit of a rant about how they were in quite strong bits in these young ponies and had their heads pulled in the whole time. For a whole 2 hr ride. And sent it to the mum by mistake. Whoops.
How to wriggle out of that one. I tried to make out I was wondering if that’s how I should be riding these days! Prob dug myself a deeper hole.
Jellymoon
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Anyway, I think they do it because they think it looks good and you wouldn’t want to end up on SM with your horses head in the air, would you. And the increased popularity of dressage in the UK, heroines like CDJ, rise of continental warmbloods who seem to be born in an ‘outline’.
Seems to have become a bit of an obsession and a mark of a ‘good’ rider.
Back in the day, we didn’t make our ponies, cobs or Irish hunters go like that unless we were schooling them. Out hacking we just let them be and had a fun time.
Seems to have become a bit of an obsession and a mark of a ‘good’ rider.
Back in the day, we didn’t make our ponies, cobs or Irish hunters go like that unless we were schooling them. Out hacking we just let them be and had a fun time.
Jellymoon
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I wonder if there’s a correlation between this and increased physical problems. I guess hard to prove but would make total sense.
little_critter
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Hmmm, I think I’m a quiet rider, and working hard on being quieter (trainer is very clear that horse should react to feather light leg aids and I must not nag)
However, when hacking with my trainer she also doesn’t want me to allow my horse to slob along. The reason being that slobbing along with incorrect bend or a neck like a camel will help the horse to develop those ‘wrong’ muscles and make it easier and easier for them to go in the wrong outline, and harder for them to go in the correct outline.
BUT the horse is never pulled in with the rein; asking for the correct shape and working correctly over the back comes primarily from the seat.
The ultimate test is can you give away the reins and the horse continues in the outline you left it in.
However, when hacking with my trainer she also doesn’t want me to allow my horse to slob along. The reason being that slobbing along with incorrect bend or a neck like a camel will help the horse to develop those ‘wrong’ muscles and make it easier and easier for them to go in the wrong outline, and harder for them to go in the correct outline.
BUT the horse is never pulled in with the rein; asking for the correct shape and working correctly over the back comes primarily from the seat.
The ultimate test is can you give away the reins and the horse continues in the outline you left it in.
Poppy+MrDarcy
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Most of my quiet horsey friends try to avoid group lessons and anything social.
eahotson
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Smile
eahotson
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Another good idea.Can you find a school which has been going for a long time? It is more likely that their teaching methods won't have changed as much and they may still teach people how to ride! Then poach one of their riders
dogatemysalad
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When looking for riders to exercise my horse while I'm off games, my criteria was that they must be lightweight, calm, competent and confident enough to ride with my horses welfare in mind before trying to look good.
My horse is a gem. He deserves riders who respect him. Lumpy, saddle bangers, rigid hands and excitable riders are excluded.
The two people who ride him are quiet riders. There's no drama or angst. It's hard to find people like that, but I'd rather have no rider, then a bad rider.
My horse is a gem. He deserves riders who respect him. Lumpy, saddle bangers, rigid hands and excitable riders are excluded.
The two people who ride him are quiet riders. There's no drama or angst. It's hard to find people like that, but I'd rather have no rider, then a bad rider.