Ok, DRESSAGE RIders/horses and Hacking???

[TarrSteps]

but I mean who is HE really to contradict us expert on this forum?? plus I'm sure all his horses are easy and happy hacker not really worth that much...

Yes, but I know people who makes GP horses and like them all to jump a bit. That doesn't mean it's the ONLY way to make them, it means it works for that outfit. Good trainers do want their horses to be well rounded and conditioned - lots do some sort of "fast work" - but they also have to work with what they've got. And they have to take the individual horse's needs into account.

I suspect Carl has access to safe hacking and relatively good footing - I'm sure there are lots of people on here who regularly hack places his horses would not be allowed to go!

Btw, almost everyone has said their horses do leave the school, just that they may not hack as in go out for hours and hours. If you have a horse for fun and hacking is one of the things you want to do then it's very important and worth a) having a suitable horse and b) working on it. If you don't care whether or not you hack and it's not what you have a horse for, then it's not such a massive issue.

 

[Spiderman]

Spider is off to the BD Nationals tomorrow, Thursday, to compete on Friday. We are leaving an hour earlier than necessary in order to let him have..................................





a 'let my hair down' hack in the forest before loading up again and heading off again to Stoneleigh!
Unfortunately the girl that jumps him wasn't able to come this week or Spider would have also jumped yesterday. So instead, I lunged him over some raised poles then loose jumped him.
A lot of training involves psychology imo and if it makes my boy happy then that's what I'll do!

 

[doctordoolittle]

Spider is off to the BD Nationals tomorrow, Thursday, to compete on Friday. We are leaving an hour earlier than necessary in order to let him have..................................

a 'let my hair down' hack in the forest before loading up again and heading off again to Stoneleigh!
Unfortunately the girl that jumps him wasn't able to come this week or Spider would have also jumped yesterday. So instead, I lunged him over some raised poles then loose jumped him.
A lot of training involves psychology imo and if it makes my boy happy then that's what I'll do!

Good luck tomorrow spider!
Hope you enjoyed letting your hair down

 

[soupdragon71]

Sorry, no comprendez. I do always fail to understand why 'Dressage Horses' are treated in any different way to any other horses because they are 'Dressage Horses'. My daughter has an event and dressage horse. It goes out 24/7, it gets hacked out very regularily, um its a horse and is treated like a horse. Its not wrapped in cotton wool, bandaged up to within an inch of its life (she doesnt even use boots unless she is jumping) and treated with kid gloves.

I also fail to see the distinction between eventers and dressage riders, although as an eventing mummy I am aware that a lot of fittening work is done out hacking, ie hill work, cantering, interval training etc. However, as dressage horses need to be fit as well, why are they so different, and not hacked etc. What I am trying to convey is why are people so bl**dy precious about 'Dressage Horses'. We own one, and its treated as the horse that it actually is, and oh yes, its quite valuable before anyone shoots me down in flames.

Totally agree! I event but current horse is a good dressage horse (and is worth a lot more than any horse I have bought previously). In summer he is out 24 hours with my 2 retired TBs - I leave it as late as possible before they come in for winter (it is long enough after all). We are due to go to the BRC championships tomorrow but I've turned him out tonight because he kept me awake earlier this week, when weather was bad, shrieking because he wanted out. I treat them all the same and they do want to be out (admittedly the TBs like to be in if it is cold, wet and windy - wimps!)

 

[AmyMay]

There will always be exceptions to the rule but it is unusual to find a horse confident and happy to hack solo competing as a 'dressage' horse.

Why?

 

[thetrainer'smissus]

In my (fairly considerable ) experience, there are lots of "rules" about what owners should and shouldn't do with their dressage horses - more so than in any other discipline. Certainly hacking out (or not hacking out) seems to be one way that dressage riders distinguish themselves from the rest, but they are very often over-horsed, came to riding late in life and struggle to cope with any "behaviour". The pure joy and adrenalin rush of riding a fit horse at speed is something they never experience, which is a pity.

 

[Amaranta]

In my (fairly considerable ) experience, there are lots of "rules" about what owners should and shouldn't do with their dressage horses - more so than in any other discipline. Certainly hacking out (or not hacking out) seems to be one way that dressage riders distinguish themselves from the rest, but they are very often over-horsed, came to riding late in life and struggle to cope with any "behaviour". The pure joy and adrenalin rush of riding a fit horse at speed is something they never experience, which is a pity.

Nail on head

Have to say that my horses do hack out but then that is all they do for the first month after backing. The AM horse is indeed 'interesting' to hack at times but is 100% in traffic etc etc etc. My horses also get turn out everyday and, as youngsters live out 24/7.

I do admit to the dead sheep and the bling though

 

[skydancer]

Sorry, no comprendez. I do always fail to understand why 'Dressage Horses' are treated in any different way to any other horses because they are 'Dressage Horses'. My daughter has an event and dressage horse. It goes out 24/7, it gets hacked out very regularily, um its a horse and is treated like a horse. Its not wrapped in cotton wool, bandaged up to within an inch of its life (she doesnt even use boots unless she is jumping) and treated with kid gloves.

I also fail to see the distinction between eventers and dressage riders, although as an eventing mummy I am aware that a lot of fittening work is done out hacking, ie hill work, cantering, interval training etc. However, as dressage horses need to be fit as well, why are they so different, and not hacked etc. What I am trying to convey is why are people so bl**dy precious about 'Dressage Horses'. We own one, and its treated as the horse that it actually is, and oh yes, its quite valuable before anyone shoots me down in flames.

ditto this!!

 

[Worried1]

Why?

Look back to my other posts. I think I have given a good explanation. They are simply not conditioned to it.

 

[Booboos]

In my (fairly considerable ) experience, there are lots of "rules" about what owners should and shouldn't do with their dressage horses - more so than in any other discipline. Certainly hacking out (or not hacking out) seems to be one way that dressage riders distinguish themselves from the rest, but they are very often over-horsed, came to riding late in life and struggle to cope with any "behaviour". The pure joy and adrenalin rush of riding a fit horse at speed is something they never experience, which is a pity.

In a thread full of people saying that they hack their dressage horses you conclude that we are over-horsed, come to riding late in life and struggle to cope with any 'behaviour'. Ta very much. Is there any particular discipline you specialise in so that I can conclude that all people who do X are very rude?

 

[thetrainer'smissus]

Goodness Booboos, that's quite an interpretation of what I said. Perhaps you might like to read what's there, not what's not there?

 

[diggerbez]

In a thread full of people saying that they hack their dressage horses you conclude that we are over-horsed, come to riding late in life and struggle to cope with any 'behaviour'. Ta very much. Is there any particular discipline you specialise in so that I can conclude that all people who do X are very rude?

hahahaha exactly my thoughts booboos