Opinions on backing youngster with crooked pelvis

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There does appear to be a current theme of people putting their wishes to keep and/or ride a horse first and above the well being and welfare of the animal including their physical and mental health.

Ignorance is nothing new but some appear to "know" yet chose to close their eyes to the obvious so that they can keep going for their own selfishness.

It is very sad for the animals involved. I believed this to be a forum of people who at their core loved horses. Perhaps that is because as a lurker I picked and chose what threads to read; since signing up I've read what has received the most replies and that appears to be controversial threads. It has not been easy reading recently, in fact it has been quite upsetting.

this is a very odd thing to read especially on this thread where everyone is on the side of the horse. what exactly are you getting at because i havent seen any evidence that the forum members on here are not caring people regarding their animals...maybe some are not so caring regarding people but if that is what you mean ,please say
 

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no, i think NR is correct, there are some threads where you just think that the horse is crying out for the owner to notice that it's not coping any more, but the owner is oblivious and brushes all comments to that effect aside, or simply flounces.

I think there are many many posters on this forum who truly want to do the best by their horses and who try to be clear sighted about their welfare, but it's the other type that tend to generate busy threads.
 

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I have seen a horse where the hip bone had actually been fractured (going through a door) and had healed but not quite level and it didnt affect the horse at all.
The pelvis looked crooked but it actually wasn't, he became a grade A jumper.

I would assume, as your friend had had a vet even though he didnt do a vetting he would have told the owner how to proceed.

All I know is that vet advised x-ray at least so they could identify what the issue was and go from there
 

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It sounds like a very sad situation for the horse and also that you probably know that things are not right. The question though is do you feel like you need or can do something about it? Is there a yard owner/manager that you can voice your concerns to that they may listen to? It sounds like the owners won't listen to anything they are told as they are seemingly not listening to the vet, so my best and possibly cold hearted thought is to walk away unless welfare organisations need to be called. The board will always be here for people to listen to you if you need to vent, but please don't bog yourself down in the stress if it risks messing with your head and there is nothing you can do about it. Of course this is always easier said than done.

It's the YO that bought the horse.....
 

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It's the YO that bought the horse.....
Eek! I thought you were describing some first time owner who was cracking on out of a lack of knowledge, hence not vetting pre-purchase.

Going against vet advice even for more minor issues that this is unwise. This poor horse.

Have they had anyone question why they are doing this with a horse with such a condition? Regardless of the obvious cruelty to the horse, if the owner is being selfish about it they are most likely going to end up with a horse with a very short ridden career and probably unsellable in future which is hardly a good use of their money.
 

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no, i think NR is correct, there are some threads where you just think that the horse is crying out for the owner to notice that it's not coping any more, but the owner is oblivious and brushes all comments to that effect aside, or simply flounces.

I think there are many many posters on this forum who truly want to do the best by their horses and who try to be clear sighted about their welfare, but it's the other type that tend to generate busy threads.

agree in a way but still think those posters are in a minority and those who dont like what they hear flounce and disappear
 

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Eek! I thought you were describing some first time owner who was cracking on out of a lack of knowledge, hence not vetting pre-purchase.

Going against vet advice even for more minor issues that this is unwise. This poor horse.

Have they had anyone question why they are doing this with a horse with such a condition? Regardless of the obvious cruelty to the horse, if the owner is being selfish about it they are most likely going to end up with a horse with a very short ridden career and probably unsellable in future which is hardly a good use of their money.

Sure, you are free to raise any issues on this yard to them. If you want yelled at, belittled, bullied and then ignored.

Apparently the horse is being backed (poorly) then sold now.

I can only hope potential buyers are smart enough to get a vetting.

Or in an ideal scenario, pride is swallowed and the horse is given to someone who can help it. Pretty unlikely eh
 

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Accident waiting to happen along with the loss of the YO/dealer's reputation. I hope the former doesn't happen, but without it she may do similar again. A very sad situation and I feel for you having to stand by and watch. It could be worth a chat to WHW but of course there are so many implications for you in doing that, I have no idea if this constitutes neglect.
 
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OP - I think it may be time for you to move yards. This may just be / possibly already is one of the many unacceptable things you may have to just live with if you stay there.

it won’t help the horse, but from what you say the YO will take no notice of you (or vets) anyway.
 

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OP - I think it may be time for you to move yards. This may just be / possibly already is one of the many unacceptable things you may have to just live with if you stay there.

it won’t help the horse, but from what you say the YO will take no notice of you (or vets) anyway.

I don't think I could stay there, equally many people's personal circumstances mean a yard move is practically impossible.
 
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