Pammy Hutton vs The Dressage Hub (Facebook)

[Miss_Millie]

She needs to stick to her conspiracy theories and not bother with DH. it’s not going to end well

I didn't realise she was a climate change denier Difficult to take anyone seriously who doesn't 'believe' in basic scientific fact. What a relief that their group has been made private now.

 

[Apizz2019]

I see Heather M is now the subject/ trying to argue. I'm not sure why they bother, you will never win against someone like that.

DH is being terrorised by HM according to the latest post.

 

[eahotson]

DH is being terrorised by HM according to the latest post.

Really?

 

[Orangehorse]

I didn't realise she was a climate change denier Difficult to take anyone seriously who doesn't 'believe' in basic scientific fact. What a relief that their group has been made private now.

HM - climate change denier, anti vaccine, Bill Gates is evil and wants to take over the world, along with those murky Global Elite.

 

[eahotson]

HM - climate change denier, anti vaccine, Bill Gates is evil and wants to take over the world, along with those murky Global Elite.

Yes I have read some of her posts.

 

[Apizz2019]

Really?

Apparently so, because HM has shared a picture somewhere of DH riding, when in training with someone/a trainer who abused her and her horse.

Social media really is an awful place at times.

 

[scats]

They’ve all got far too much time on their hands. It’s really quite pathetic watching grown women behaving like this on a public stage.

 

[cauda equina]

Is that about this?
Let him that is without sin cast the first stone and all that; but it seems that no one is without sin if you know where to look

 

[Ample Prosecco]

Agree with this, some of her comments make me cringe. Pammy does seem to like the public eye, her posts are always asking for debate.

Not related to the Pammy vs Dressage Hub.. but thinking of Talland. I had a lesson at Talland a couple of years ago, was so excited! Booked for a medium school master session but you have to have a assessment before which is totally understandable.. The horse they put me on for the assessment was extremely backwards and clearly unhappy to go forward at all. I was told its all my fault and shouted at (at one point shouted at for being unable to hear with 3 lessons going on at once) I am not 'soft' and love a instructor who is firm, but this was different. I came out the session and sat in the car, had a tear.

It wasn't cheap I emailed them after and was given a voucher for another session with a different instructor and horse (they claimed the horse I was on was tired) but I never used it.

I'm not a beginner or professional by any means, been riding and owned my own since a teenager which is almost 20 years ago. I did some low level eventing and some dressage on my last horse I backed myself, but never had a instructor give such personal aggressive comments. I came away feeling so down and never wanting to get on a horse again. Maybe my experience was a one off.

A trainer I did BHS care with (she had to sign off on stuff before I could do the assessments) told me about her experience with PH. Her first words to her were 'I'll make you cry' and she was given a very hard time in the lesson.

She didn't cry but it was a very weird thing to say! And yes, PH was needlessly aggressive with her. Just why? No need.

 

[ester]

Is that about this?
Let him that is without sin cast the first stone and all that; but it seems that no one is without sin if you know where to look
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No it’s about her riding

A lot of people are struggling with what is and isn’t sarcasm atm

 

[eahotson]

Is that about this?
Let him that is without sin cast the first stone and all that; but it seems that no one is without sin if you know where to look
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Oh dear.

 

[Miss_Millie]

HM - climate change denier, anti vaccine, Bill Gates is evil and wants to take over the world, along with those murky Global Elite.

I wonder if the members of that group realise it's run by someone who is fuelled by fake news and can't comprehend basic scientific fact?

All three of them have too much time on their hands.

 

[Apizz2019]

Is that about this?
Let him that is without sin cast the first stone and all that; but it seems that no one is without sin if you know where to look
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It was this one I was referring to.

 

[Apizz2019]

I wonder if the members of that group realise it's run by someone who is fuelled by fake news and can't comprehend basic scientific fact?

All three of them have too much time on their hands.

I'm embarrased to admit I've no clue who these people are in real life.

 

[Ceifer]

I'm embarrased to admit I've no clue who these people are in real life.

I am ashamed to have been in Heathers close circle for a brief time. She is an author and French Classical training advocate.

Unfortunately she also doesn’t have many nice things to say about pretty much anybody. These days she seemed less of a rider botherer by being a conspiracy theorist but DH seems to of reignited her argumentative equine side.

 

[Apizz2019]

I am ashamed to have been in Heathers close circle for a brief time. She is an author and French Classical training advocate.

Unfortunately she also doesn’t have many nice things to say about pretty much anybody. These days she seemed less of a rider botherer by being a conspiracy theorist but DH seems to of reignited her argumentative equine side.

We all live and learn, but you shouldn't be ashamed of others behaviours.

I'm not sure many in the equine community have nice things to say about others. It seems to be a constant of differing opinions and borderline bullying. Such a shame.

 

[shortstuff99]

Chem trailers are the best conspiracy theorists, they're proper barmy

 

[TPO]

Chem trailers are the best conspiracy theorists, they're proper barmy

I fell down the rabbit hole of HMs fb wow

 

[daffy44]

I fell down the rabbit hole of HMs fb wow

I am a member of the FEI time to Act group ages ago, and HM invited me to join her own private group, I looked at the page....and politely declined to join. It was just her personal opinion on every weird and wonderful conspiracy theory going, unbelievable!!!

 

[equinerebel]

After spending 10 mins on HM's facebook page, I feel like I have lost 5 years of my life expectancy . And to think I thought she was wonderful when I was a teenager!

 

[daffy44]

After spending 10 mins on HM's facebook page, I feel like I have lost 5 years of my life expectancy . And to think I thought she was wonderful when I was a teenager!

Trust me, if you think her fb page is erm.."interesting" you should see the private group

 

[Caski]

HM - climate change denier, anti vaccine, Bill Gates is evil and wants to take over the world, along with those murky Global Elite.

Elon Must is developing a rocket which can take horses to the moon too!
Powered by droppings......
I am mad, yes, I agree...

 

[equinerebel]

Trust me, if you think her fb page is erm.."interesting" you should see the private group

I think I'd need a solid week to recover

 

[Fjord]

Oh my word, I've just looked at her FB. Absolutely bonkers! And the reason there were fewer aeroplane trails in the sky in Lovejoy is obviously because 'they' are now manipulating the weather, not because there were fewer planes flying.

 

[daffy44]

I think I'd need a solid week to recover

At least!!

I will say for balance, none of her beliefs alter her ability to ride and/or treat a horse well, its just that the beliefs are somewhat distracting!

 

[Apizz2019]

Oh my word, I've just looked at her FB. Absolutely bonkers! And the reason there were fewer aeroplane trails in the sky in Lovejoy is obviously because 'they' are now manipulating the weather, not because there were fewer planes flying.

Thanks for that I had to go take a look.

Replacing the elderly with younger foreign blood.
Weather manipulation.
And, I can't quite make out what the issue is with plane trails in the sky being there/not there.

The mind boggles.

 

[Miss_Millie]

Oh my word, I've just looked at her FB. Absolutely bonkers! And the reason there were fewer aeroplane trails in the sky in Lovejoy is obviously because 'they' are now manipulating the weather, not because there were fewer planes flying.

Who even are 'they'?

 

[teapot]

Who even are 'they'?

A lot of nutters think the Government are behind chem trails

 

[ester]

Who even are 'they'?

Can only say this in Nikki from big brothers voice

 

[Apizz2019]

A lot of nutters think the Government are behind chem trails

I'm so sheltered, I just had to Google this.

I've no words.
I can't even.
No.

Pass me the gin.