Rant - The Current Dog 'Pandemic'

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conniegirl said:
I have to say the frenchie has one of the best noses ive seen on a frenchie in by a long time. That good nose is probably why they are breeding crosses from her as it is not seemingly favoured by purebred breeders
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frenchie has a great face, but why breed to a dog who is so much larger? I’m imagining frenchie sized dogs with massive heads lol.

I am intrigued by a hound/springer cross I saw on there, sounds like potentially a great shoot dog but wonder how the recall would be lol. Suspect it’s a non intended cross but at least one that could work out well!
 
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CorvusCorax said:
I'm tickled by the idea that any actual thought or deliberation went into breeding a French Bulldog with a Shar-Pei (aloof can be a whole personality type). Apart from the breathing, both breeds are prone to eye and skin issues.
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It probably went along the lines of 'this dog has balls, oh hang on.. this one has a uterus'..
 
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I was in the vets just now for something routine and there was a pocket bully in the waiting room which was breathing so loudly that the receptionists couldn't hear what was being said to them at the desks.
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God, poor things. At least if it was in the vets it would hopefully be getting some sort of soft palate surgery.. They should have permanently reserved chairs with that choice of dog!

Someone on FB has just bought a £1800 GSD X Staffy x Great Dane. Or in other words, an expensive mongrel :p
 
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Sadly it’s not just bad breeders/greeders responsible for the current state of affairs. I know some ‘good breeders’ are certainly cashing in. I am paying the same for the new corgi pup as I did for current pembroke two and a bit years ago. There are other litters on the ground from ‘good breeders’ in terms of what we’d advise owners to be looking for - charging double and in one instance, triple, this cost for pups which probably aren’t quite as ‘well bred’ either.

In a separate breed, I know a friend returned to the same show breeder they got their Welsh terrier from three years ago, payed triple what they had done and had three litters of welshies to choose from and there were two of another breed too. This is a good breeder in many ways, and again - would be what you’d suggest someone to look for.

I just can’t fathom it myself - the price situation. Perhaps I was just always surrounded by old school breeders growing up, who only bred for themselves and anything more than two to run on was surplus so good home was more important…sadly I think these days are going…
 
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Interestingly when, earlier in the year, my blue rough collie boy was unwell and we progressed through his final journey at the vets after ten days or so of daily vet visits - I was surprised at:

a) how many litters of pups I saw in crates for jabs or check ups
B) that I counted no less than six of these pocket bully types, waddling in snorting so loudly you could almost feel the vibrations - to go for elective or emergency c-sections.

I do think things are a mess.
 
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Round here, I'm seeing a drop in prices for the "designer" crossbreeds, but the more high energy breeds and mini toy breeds are still going up for a good price.

On that note, it continues to baffle me how many high energy breeds (specifically need-lots-of-socialisation breeds) are being bred here. Saw a litter of Akita x American Bulldogs the other day. How many people in London, nay all of the SE, are equipped to deal with that kind cross?
 
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We encountered the bank of reproductive organs again.

Conversation with an acquaintance we bumped into on a dog walk this evening. A friend of a friend really. I had mentioned about new pup.

Acquaintance: another corgi? A boy I assume?
Me: a dog, yes. Why?
Them: well you’re gonna breed that one aren’t you -points at tank-
Me: we did think about it yes, but no she will be speyed.
Them: why you getting a boy then? Everyone’s breeding dogs now. I bet these go for a lot.
Me: wanted another puppy, he’s very nice.
Them: make nice pups then.
Me: we aren’t going to breed. We’d have only been doing it to have something back, and with support from her breeder. As we’re getting another corgi without the risks, hassle or responsibility of a litter its even better.Plus she’s so sharp I’m not sure everyone would cope with her.
Them: why would you keep one?
Me: why would I breed otherwise?
Them: We mated them last year - points at elderly BC type male and young scatty female cockerpoo - payed for the kitchen to be done. Did her again this year but she only had one. My sister had two of the pups last year. They had pups from them this year. Bought a new car. Mum got some frenchies to breed now as well. She’s given up work.
Me: right..
Them: and next door had an extension done. They breed them, not cockerpoo - the other ones. King Charles and poodle. Always got pups. You’re missing out mate.
Me: bye. -looks at dogs- you don’t know how lucky you pair are.

And that’s probably an accurate state of affairs in many pet homes up and down the country.
 
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P3LH said:
We encountered the bank of reproductive organs again.

Conversation with an acquaintance we bumped into on a dog walk this evening. A friend of a friend really. I had mentioned about new pup.

Acquaintance: another corgi? A boy I assume?
Me: a dog, yes. Why?
Them: well you’re gonna breed that one aren’t you -points at tank-
Me: we did think about it yes, but no she will be speyed.
Them: why you getting a boy then? Everyone’s breeding dogs now. I bet these go for a lot.
Me: wanted another puppy, he’s very nice.
Them: make nice pups then.
Me: we aren’t going to breed. We’d have only been doing it to have something back, and with support from her breeder. As we’re getting another corgi without the risks, hassle or responsibility of a litter its even better.Plus she’s so sharp I’m not sure everyone would cope with her.
Them: why would you keep one?
Me: why would I breed otherwise?
Them: We mated them last year - points at elderly BC type male and young scatty female cockerpoo - payed for the kitchen to be done. Did her again this year but she only had one. My sister had two of the pups last year. They had pups from them this year. Bought a new car. Mum got some frenchies to breed now as well. She’s given up work.
Me: right..
Them: and next door had an extension done. They breed them, not cockerpoo - the other ones. King Charles and poodle. Always got pups. You’re missing out mate.
Me: bye. -looks at dogs- you don’t know how lucky you pair are.

And that’s probably an accurate state of affairs in many pet homes up and down the country.
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Sadly this is all too common, and over in NZ also. I reckon the tax man should be chasing this sort of stuff up, its easy money to earn most of the time. I feel so sorry for the pups.
 
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P3LH said:
We encountered the bank of reproductive organs again.

Conversation with an acquaintance we bumped into on a dog walk this evening. A friend of a friend really. I had mentioned about new pup.

Acquaintance: another corgi? A boy I assume?
Me: a dog, yes. Why?
Them: well you’re gonna breed that one aren’t you -points at tank-
Me: we did think about it yes, but no she will be speyed.
Them: why you getting a boy then? Everyone’s breeding dogs now. I bet these go for a lot.
Me: wanted another puppy, he’s very nice.
Them: make nice pups then.
Me: we aren’t going to breed. We’d have only been doing it to have something back, and with support from her breeder. As we’re getting another corgi without the risks, hassle or responsibility of a litter its even better.Plus she’s so sharp I’m not sure everyone would cope with her.
Them: why would you keep one?
Me: why would I breed otherwise?
Them: We mated them last year - points at elderly BC type male and young scatty female cockerpoo - payed for the kitchen to be done. Did her again this year but she only had one. My sister had two of the pups last year. They had pups from them this year. Bought a new car. Mum got some frenchies to breed now as well. She’s given up work.
Me: right..
Them: and next door had an extension done. They breed them, not cockerpoo - the other ones. King Charles and poodle. Always got pups. You’re missing out mate.
Me: bye. -looks at dogs- you don’t know how lucky you pair are.

And that’s probably an accurate state of affairs in many pet homes up and down the country.
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Depressing isn't it. I've had a similar conversation a few times since getting our mongrel terrier puppy, and the answer that I wouldn't buy a puppy to make money for it and can see literally no good reason to breed her, is apparently a strange answer.

Even normal, nice, sensible people seem to have that as their first thought when discussing someone's new dog. It has just become completely normalised that people buy pets with half an eye to make money from them. It just makes me so sad. Humans really are selfish, wretched creatures at times.
 
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