Re: 'Taliban'

Ah yes but I'd heard it waaaayyyy before that. Infact, I got quite upset about it and wanted it to be stopped but I eventually saw the err.. Funny side for want of a better word.
 
Ah yes but I'd heard it waaaayyyy before that. Infact, I got quite upset about it and wanted it to be stopped but I eventually saw the err.. Funny side for want of a better word.

That was my understanding that it had been used before that for some time as an offensive term, and you say "Go on... mock us. Call us evangelists, taliban, we don't give two hoots because what matters is that the horses we save get us through the day... smiling and frankly that is all we need."
 
Not gone back far enough. I remember the term before that post.

Nice try Rhino, but no cigar.

It's the first one that is coming up on a search, tried one for just 'taliban' in both NL and NL archive and that comes up with nothing earlier either. I know stuff was lost when we migrated to vbulletin but it seems odd that nothing at all is coming up.
 
Can you find threads that were removed? Sme of them got very nasty and that was even before I joined as a member.
 
Hmm. Well in my head anyway, it has been used for quite a few years. At the very least I heard it here first. As you do :D

Just did a google and actually..... It's used on mums net!!! So maybe I'm wrong it's not a HHO thing... Either that or it's caught on elsewhere...
 
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I think if we Google we'll find it's wider than here and Mumsnet... uknchp as well. Oh, and trotonline, petsmoz.com and there are galleries of images of hooves...
 
Anyone offended by the word Taliban in this context clearly doesn't know what it means. If your brain sees horrid connotations when you hear the word then that is your own association - not the word Taliban.
 
Sorry to be an old f@@@t, but I find references to the 'barefoot taliban' a little offensive, particularly with reference to the recent shooting of a 14 year old girl who was only campaigning for education for girls.

Using the word 'taliban' in the context you do trivialises them. How about using the term 'Gestapo' instead. Does that feel better?

Since the word 'taliban' means 'student' or 'seeker of knowledge' it's actually fairly accurate. I believe what you object to is the connotation it has in light of recent events.
 
Hear hear bobojob.

No wonder country's are at war about religion, different cultures, oil, minerals etc, when H&H forum users take offence to a word which is applicable to the reason why posters search the bare footers knowledge. If we spent more time learning about different languages and cultures there would be less time to argue.

I do not condone what happened to the young girl, but sadly it is out of all of our hands.
 
I think the Taliban are one of the chief doers of ****** I'm the world.

It is ALL down to the West with constant meddling and playing Chess with peoples lives, trying to get them to adopt the Western Culture, it does not work.

I always believe that you sort the problems out with ones own Country first rather than trying to solve problems of another.
 
I feel a bit uncomfortable with the term being used in a 'jokey' way too, and I'm not even a 'barefooter'! I doubt very much that the person who originally used this term to describe the barefooters knew its true meaning!

However, I have found those of you who are barefooters the most appropriate theme tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzGJkmoREs :D

You're welcome! :D :D
 
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There are a lot of overly sensitive people posting on this thread - if someone who has experienced that which Zoon has doesn't find it offensive, the rest of you and your pretensions really need to find something better to do.
 
As said, the word taliban means 'student', so quite appropriate for those seeking knowledge and research into the barefoot horse IMO

Wouldn't it be more 'appropriate' to be offended by those who choose to hijack (sorry, now that is not a particularly appropriate word given the context) the word and tarnish its true meaning?

Well said Rhino! :)
 
As the word means "students", was given by anti-barefooters as an insult and then adopted to take away that insult and it is always prefaced by "Barefoot" and rarely "The", I really don't see it trivilising anything. I quite like it.

Agree with this^^Quite creative, and I for one never confuse HHoers in favour of their horses not wearing shoes with middle eastern religeous extremists.

The BFT haven't used it to mean students, they've been meaning the militant lunatic Taliban, alright, but they are being ironic. :rolleyes:

Yes, meant to be derogatory but actually accurate. neat.

The Taliban blew my brother into 4 separate pieces. He was a triple amputee who bled out in the middle of a road because his men couldn't get to him or the Taliban would have shot them too.

I don't want any sympathy, but if anyone should take offence to the use of the word then it should be me, but I don't give a ****. Come on guys, there are more important things to worry about in this world.

The use of words changes with time and as Zoon says there are more important things to worry about.
 
Well, talk about getting a life, just got in from Solihull, I haven't been on HHO all day!

I didn't realise that 'taliban' means 'student'. I'm an ignorant old sod and should really know better and do my research before I open my big gob.

However, I doubt that the first thing that comes to mind when it's reported on the news that the 'taliban' hav eenforced Sharia law by stoning an adulterous woman to death, is a bunch of students wondering about the Hindu Kush!

Google's a wonderful thing!

Ducks and runs!!
 
I don't like it tbf (and have suggested so previously) and it certainly isn't a term I would ever use or feel comfortable using. I think that's my perogative even if there are more important things to worry about (I am probably worrying about them too ;) I do worry really well :p ) and I don't think I need to get a life or that I am being hugely ridiculous as some seem to think :o.
 
I have always loved that Taliban means seeker of knowledge when many think it's a term of insult language is a difficult tool sometimes.
 
How about people accept what the word 'taliban' actually means and recognise that they are responsible for their associations not the word itself! Barefoot taliban stays imo. Whatever next?
 
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