Reporting a near miss to the police - car passing too close, too fast

[cauda equina]

I've done the BHS incident thing, but is there any point in reporting it to the police too? I know the registration number

If so, how best to do it - 111, or some other way?
Thanks

 

[Sprogladite01]

You can report online for non urgent offences - this link will show you where to go: https://www.police.uk/pu/contact-us/what-and-how-to-report/how-to-report/

 

[Quigleyandme]

Really I wouldn’t expose myself to the frustration. There‘s a small chance they’ll phone the driver and give them words of advice but if they don’t turn out for a 999 call prior to a triple murder….

 

[cauda equina]

You can report online for non urgent offences - this link will show you where to go: https://www.police.uk/pu/contact-us/what-and-how-to-report/how-to-report/

Thank you

 

[bonny]

Do you believe that reporting will make any difference to the world ?

 

[Rowreach]

They take it quite seriously round here. A number of drivers have points and fines which they didn't previously have ... and ignoring dangerous driving around horses just makes the roads even more dangerous for everyone else.

You can probably report it online which only takes a few minutes, and what have you got to lose? They usually prefer a bit of video evidence but a registration number will be a good start.

 

[Rowreach]

Do you believe that reporting will make any difference to the world ?

It might stop that driver killing someone in the future.

 

[toppedoff]

I know @Barton Bounty had reported someone that eventually got pulled in due to a few events I believe (?)

 

[Birker2020]

I've done the BHS incident thing, but is there any point in reporting it to the police too? I know the registration number

If so, how best to do it - 111, or some other way?
Thanks

If you have proof with a camera or a witness then yes, but I just couldn't do that myself.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Do you believe that reporting will make any difference to the world ?

The police certainly went and had a ‘quiet word’ with the driving school instructor who nearly rear ended me and my horse when he drove too fast round a blind bend in his liveried driving school car. No dash cam footage, and we got only part of the reg number, but the driving school name was clear to see.

I like to think that the boss of the driving school subsequently ramped up his ideas of how his driving instructors should teach their pupils how to drive round blind bends, let alone how they drive them themselves.

OP please yes do report it. The police might already have reports of this driver and this might be very useful extra evidence.

 

[cauda equina]

Thanks everyone
I feel a bit hesitant as I don't have any video evidence or witnesses but doing nothing feels defeatist

 

[Bernster]

It’s also good to track data of incidents etc. no harm and might do good so well done OP for doing that. We have some poor drivers around us so I should try to get a license plate if it happens again.

 

[Orangehorse]

If you go on the Pass Wide and Slow facebook page there are many, many successful reports to the Police. I think that most of them use camera footage, but the results are very satisfactory.

It IS worth reporting, even if they cannot proceed without camera footage, it will be on record.

 

[Barton Bounty]

The driver that drove past me at speed even though I stopped for him pled guilty to dangerous driving. He got points and a fine and was going to be attending a driver awareness course.

He sent his sincerest apologies through the officer and said he was truly sorry.

The police are adamant in cracking down on this with riders and cyclists and they said to report every single incident with footage or not.

 

[Barklands]

Do you believe that reporting will make any difference to the world ?

I think it can. It is also taken very seriously around me and the police will often go and speak to the driver. I think many drivers don't mean to drive dangerously near riders and it is quite often ignorance. Only the other day was I telling my OH off for passing a horse at 30mph rather than 10 and he's been around my horses for years!

Sometimes education can be the best prevention.

 

[PeterNatt]

I am sorry to hear of this incident. I would definitely report this incident to the Police and insist that they give you an ‘Incident Number’ (so that you know it has been recorded on their systems database).

Most police forces now have a ‘Snap Portal’ where you can send in hat cam coverage. Check on: https://nextbase.co.uk/national-das...vFa_PnQDKOp32qyvuFZ7bJ4ewSEcZRiFl51xjDqfHA5Tw

If the Police fail to respond then ask to speak to the Duty Officer. If you are still unhappy with their answer then contact your local Police Crime Commissioner.

Please also report all incidents to either the Horse i App or www.horseincidents.org.uk web site as the statistics from this are used to identify ‘Hot Spots’ for equine incidents which can be used when lobbying for local or national changes to improve equine safety.

In addition, if you know of several incidents along this stretch of road you have the option of organising a Police ‘Slow Pass’ Operation along this stretch of road, which involves a ridden or driven horse being observed by Police Officers and any dangerous drivers are stopped and talked to.

To organise a Police Slow Pass Operation contact the Safety Department of the BHS H.Q.
Tel: 02476 840516 E-mail: safety@bhs.org.uk

As regards other measures you can take, I would recommend wearing a long sleeved Hi-Viz jacket so that other road users can clearly see your hand signals and also wearing a Hat-Cam such as the Techalogic DC-1 which films both forwards and backwards at the same time. (If you order on their web site www.techalogic.co.uk and use the discount code PWAS1 you will get a 7% discount)! When wearing a Hat/Cam always speak out the Registration Number of the vehicle so that you have got a record of it as sometimes the camera does not pick it out.

Also when your local authority is reviewing or creating a new Neighbourhood Plan, District Plan , Local Traffic Plan, Local Walking Cycling Infrastructure Plan, Active Travel Plan or a Greenway Plan make sure that you contact them and request that Equestrians (Horse Riders and Carriage Drivers) are included as ‘Vulnerable Road Users’ as they will then be compelled to introduce traffic calming or signage when requested to do so.

If you only get a partial number plate reading check here www.partialnumberplate.co.uk

 

[Polos Mum]

If the person has a track record of this sort of thing (even if the police have done nothing they will have a record of previous complaints) then there is a chance they do something.

Worth investing in a camera, I send in c.3 people a week to Operation Snap (in West Yorkshire) and they release prosecution rates for the whole thing quarterly. About 70% of what gets submitted ends up in points / fines / awareness courses or more. So it is well worth it when the police have a simple system that auto fines people (it's easy conviction rates for them!)

I want my bit of road to have a reputation for fines among the taxi drivers / delivery people and regular users so I send in as many as I can - which is far too many sadly.

 

[Bernster]

I don’t use a hat cam as I’m worried that it might affect the safety of the hat - anyone know if that’s true or not?

 

[Esmae]

Do you believe that reporting will make any difference to the world ?

The thing is that if these things are never reported to the police, then, as far as they know, there isn't a problem. If nothing else, it starts to show the reality of the situation with one or more offenders.

 

[Barklands]

I don’t use a hat cam as I’m worried that it might affect the safety of the hat - anyone know if that’s true or not?

I think there must be some evidence to that as I am assuming that's why they are banned from BE? I could of course be wrong in that though! There are other types of cameras that strap across your chest if you wanted to wear one without that worry.

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

I don’t use a hat cam as I’m worried that it might affect the safety of the hat - anyone know if that’s true or not?

My husband went batshyte when I mentioned a hat cam. They are banned in motorsport regarding fixing to persons for good reason (has to fix to vehicle/bike and not protrude from the line of bodywork)
Michael Schumacher's skiing accident just over 10 yrs ago was allegedly accelerated as his helmet cam caught.

Friend has similar husband to mine, she uses a button cam that fixes on her front, but this is mainly for recording rides and irritating dogs etc as like me, she doesn't really have roadwork.

 

[Rowreach]

My husband went batshyte when I mentioned a hat cam. They are banned in motorsport regarding fixing to persons for good reason (has to fix to vehicle/bike and not protrude from the line of bodywork)
Michael Schumacher's skiing accident just over 10 yrs ago was allegedly accelerated as his helmet cam caught.

Friend has similar husband to mine, she uses a button cam that fixes on her front, but this is mainly for recording rides and irritating dogs etc as like me, she doesn't really have roadwork.

I definitely prefer my little clip on one that attaches to my pocket than the techalogic, although I did wear it when I had to ride on a really bad road and was reporting drivers in a weekly basis.

 

[cauda equina]

I definitely prefer my little clip on one that attaches to my pocket than the techalogic, although I did wear it when I had to ride on a really bad road and was reporting drivers in a weekly basis.

What camera do you have please?

 

[Barton Bounty]

I don’t use a hat cam as I’m worried that it might affect the safety of the hat - anyone know if that’s true or not?

Im not sure about the safety of the hat being compromised but I used to race motorbikes on a track and we were not allowed to wear them as they could fall off get stuck in any part of the bike. Hit another rider or record footage of an accident. That was in our terms and conditions every weekend when we signed on. That was an official race weekend. However when I was at practice at knockhill on track days, we were allowed to wear them.

 

[Rowreach]

What camera do you have please?

This one

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Veho-Camcorder-Handsfree-Action-1080p30/dp/B07H3QGYW2

 

[Rowreach]

Hats and helmets are tested without protuberances and that's what the safety standards are based on. It stands to reason that if you land a certain way and the impact is on the camera, then the efficacy of the hat in saving your head may be compromised.

But footage of idiot road users is nevertheless very useful.

 

[Abby-Lou]

Please report to the police. I had a similar experience was riding out early sunday morning with newly backed pony only 3rd time out on road, car came at speed pipping horn multiple times coming past me. I sat deep, to be honest I froze the pony was a saint and didn't bother. I was lucky a villager also saw what happened and reported to police another car stopped to check we were ok. I also reported to police, it went to court and the person was fined and got points on his license. I think he was a known individual to the police and that's why they took it seriously.

 

[AmyMay]

Do you believe that reporting will make any difference to the world ?

Please report to the police. I had a similar experience was riding out early sunday morning with newly backed pony only 3rd time out on road, car came at speed pipping horn multiple times coming past me. I sat deep, to be honest I froze the pony was a saint and didn't bother. I was lucky a villager also saw what happened and reported to police another car stopped to check we were ok. I also reported to police, it went to court and the person was fined and got points on his license. I think he was a known individual to the police and that's why they took it seriously.

And that’s why we report @bonny

 

[Keith_Beef]

I don’t use a hat cam as I’m worried that it might affect the safety of the hat - anyone know if that’s true or not?

You could get a chest or shoulder mount for a camera.

 

[cauda equina]

Well I tried to report it online, and got this