Sarcoid - the toothpaste experiment

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Okay, so I have read many times about people having success with Crest toothpaste on sarcoids, so I thought I'd try it. My boy has had a flat patch of sarcoid for a couple of years which was not active and so I left alone. However, this year it appears to have sprouted and is now growing at a rate of knots. It is right between his hind legs and is starting to rub, so something needs to be done. He is covered for vets fees, but I have used blood root ointment and Liverpool cream several times in the past and it really is a horrible thing to put the horses through, as well as being dangerous to apply to tricky areas without the vet coming to sedate the horse every day. So here goes, day one of the toothpaste experiment. Unfortunately, I forgot to get a photograph of the sarcoid without the toothpaste on...doh! But it's around two inches in diameter, and has knobbly bits growing over it.



Will update every few days or whenever/if ever, there is a noticeable change. I am smothering it on twice daily without washing it of in between applications. Wish me luck!
 
Hopefully, that should start to look quite withered after a week! Because of where it is you might want to put some sudocream on the surrounding area and on the other leg if it rubs there to stop any soreness, this is what I did!:)
 
Good luck :)

I have heard quite a few success stories about this and just wondered if vets recommend using it? If so, why has there not been a similar product produced for equines?
 
pines of rome said:
Hopefully, that should start to look quite withered after a week! Because of where it is you might want to put some sudocream on the surrounding area and on the other leg if it rubs there to stop any soreness, this is what I did!:)
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That's a good idea. Thank you.

Wolves said:
Good luck :)

I have heard quite a few success stories about this and just wondered if vets recommend using it? If so, why has there not been a similar product produced for equines?
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I know, that is what I thought. But it has to be worth a go. A few people have had success with it. It is also not at all sore for the horse. He was still not bothered by me applying the second lot this morning.
 
Vets in America seem to suggest it as a treatment to owners, but I have not had a vet suggest it to me here!
I just went ahead and did it anyway after doing some research on American websites. My vet was amazed that it had worked, mind you, not much money to be made out of a 99p tube of toothpaste!!!!!:rolleyes:
 
YasandCrystal said:
The higher the fluoride content the better. The best one is presctption high fluoride toothpaste, but that is expensive at around £11 a tube.
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Is the flouride that is supposed to have the action on the sarcoid? If so, would flouride tablets (crushed up and made into a paste of some sort) be any good)? Actually don't know if you can still get these - it was common for kids to be supplemented with them when I was young.
 
Just a thought, take the photo with a ruler by the sarcoid so you can measure it it as it is changing. You will never get a photo in the same place twice so it will be hard to measure change but if you include a ruler this will record it for you whatever the angle.
 
FubsyMog said:
Is the flouride that is supposed to have the action on the sarcoid? If so, would flouride tablets (crushed up and made into a paste of some sort) be any good)? Actually don't know if you can still get these - it was common for kids to be supplemented with them when I was young.
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I am not sure. The literature I have read suggests that it is the fluoride. I have some experience of the success and I know it has nothing to do with any abrasive rubbing action as suggested by someone on another thread.
 
KautoStar1 said:
Does it have to be Crest ? Is there something in Crest thats not in other toothpaste ?
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I don't know. I read that Crest is the best one.

FubsyMog said:
Is the flouride that is supposed to have the action on the sarcoid? If so, would flouride tablets (crushed up and made into a paste of some sort) be any good)? Actually don't know if you can still get these - it was common for kids to be supplemented with them when I was young.
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I am not sure if it is the fluoride or another ingredient (I read about a different ingredient which has the effect and which is higher concentrated in Crest. Can't remember what now).

Scoutie said:
Just a thought, take the photo with a ruler by the sarcoid so you can measure it it as it is changing. You will never get a photo in the same place twice so it will be hard to measure change but if you include a ruler this will record it for you whatever the angle.
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Excellent idea, but unfortunately won't work on my boy. He kicks up if you try to stick anything near the inside of his hind legs. He doesn't mind my hand thankfully, so I am able to apply the toothpaste, but anything in my hand and I would have trouble.
 
YasandCrystal said:
The higher the fluoride content the better. The best one is presctption high fluoride toothpaste, but that is expensive at around £11 a tube.
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OH who knows a bit about this sort of thing said its the fluoride
I got prescription strength high fluoride tooth paste from a shop on eBay .
 
I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on!

I'm starting toothpaste and neem treatment on my boy's sarcoids next week on the advice of my homeopathic vet (after bloodroot cream made them worse :( ) so will post photos if anyone's interested (I have weekly photos since we started treating them in March).
 
I know im new on here, but ive been an active reader for some time and was interested in the previous thread on crest and sarcoids (Ive previously used both Liverpool cream and had one surgically removed by a vet) when i found a small one on his armpit i thought id give it ago, not really expecting much. I was completely amazed when on day 4 of applying the toothpaste, i brought him in from the field, minus his sarcoid!:D this was only afew weeks ago and its healing nicely.

Best of all it didnt hurt Flyer one bit:D:D
 
my boy had a small lump i wasnt sure if it was a sarcoid or not so i used oral b it was the highest flouride content i could find at the time.
i put it on for ages it seemed to get smaller everyso often id remove the dried toothpaste and it didnt look much different ( i was sceptical but wanted to try it)
sooo when i ran out of the oral b i brought colgate blue gel i was almost at the end of the tube i thought 'oh so it it isnt going to work for me'.
i put some on and left it there for a week or so.
then one morning i noticed he'd got little drips of dried blood on his leg it had gone !!!!!

maybe it was a sarcoid i dont know maybe it was a wart either way its vamooosed !!!
 
Some encouraging stories here. If the Crest doesn't work, I will get some high strength fluoride toothpaste and try that.
 
I'll find it in the tack room and post the name later just in case you need it .
We clag it on any minute odd feeling lump on fatty no sarcoids have grown since then ( his are nodular) but I can't say for sure it has worked .
 
Wagtail said:
Okay, so I have read many times about people having success with Crest toothpaste on sarcoids, so I thought I'd try it.
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Me too - total waste of time! Persevered for 3 weeks and there was NO change at all. Sarcoids now going fast with Sarc-Off - a bit more expensive at just under £100 for a small tub - but it works on the smaller sarcoids.
 
One of the other liveries at my yard had a horse with a sarcoid around his eye, she was using thuja cream with some good effect but then it just stopped working and wouldn't shrink it anymore, she used crest and it was gone within a week.
 
Janet, I will give Sarc off a go if this doesn't work. The sarcoid feels much rougher to the touch this morning. Of course that might just be the toothpaste hardening, I don't know. It also appears to be a little bit shrivelled. Again hard to tell with the toothpaste and may just be wishful thinking.
 
Hi,
Im a 3rd Veterinary Nursing Student and my 15yr thoroughbred had a sarcoid and having read the threads on here i decided to try toothpaste as I understand the side effects of Liverpool cream and the like and wished to try kinder methods first.

He's Sarcoid has dropped off within 3 weeks of treatment! ( I forgot to take photos!!)

Having read all of the success stories on here I was wondering if anyone would be happy to send me info on exactly what they did and if possible pictures of the stages of treatment as I am looking into writing an academic paper on it so hopefully more vets will look into this cheap, low risk treatment before using Liverpool cream and more drastic treatments.
 
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Flyers sarcoid didnt change at all (i actually didnt think it was working) until i brought him in on day 4 without it. I was so surprised that i didnt tell anyone until the following day, when i checked him again, just incase id made a mistake!
 
Sounds better than a lambs tail band around them! I'm off to look on eBay too.... Think their sales are about to go up!
Thanks for the tip, I'll make sure I take some pictures!
 
My mare had a small nodular sarcoid on her forehead that the vet advised to leave because of its location. It seemed to develop a bit of a stalk, so I tied it off and applied toothpaste; it took quite a while to go completely, but it eventually dropped off leaving a small scab, which I continued to slap toothpaste on and there is no sign of any reoccurrence, fingers crossed!
I didn't wash it off in between applications as it seemed to work better if allowed to build up a sort of toothpaste seal over the sarcoid, which would peel off after a while taking a layer of the sarcoid with it.
 
I can't get Duraphat from ebay or anywhere else as it's prescription only, can anyone who's bought it tell me where they got it from?
 
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