honetpot
Well-Known Member
Tax evasion - that's how they got Al Capone
I've said before I think to take monies but not provide goods is fraud
To make people retract comments in order to get their goods is blackmail.
Both fall under a criminal category imo
Totally agree. They need to publically state they are taking no orders for a week while they sort out the outstanding orders. make a public apology and ask customers with issues to come forward so they can try and save their company. Its the only way forward for them and im not even sure this will be enough for the customers that have been let down over christmas .Very, very good points, PE. However, for any of your suggestions to be of benefit to the company they would have to be taken on board. Sadly, I don't think it is likely, because that in itself would require the company to be run by adults, rather than petulant children - which is the impression I have gained from reading the awful responses to paying customers both on here, and their 'professional' (very loose term, there) FB page.
This seems to be getting WAY to out of hand, give them a break guys
money being used to pay for derby house orders, 13 horses and a groom
Not being rude, but why say this is out of hand? Stripping back all the speculation, there is evidence that Shmwae have taken orders and not provided goods on a reasonably large scale. There was also screen shots of a refund being offered if negative feedback was removed. Factually, both of these actions are illegal, and if tree is sufficient evidence on the scale of the lack of supplying products, the easily classifiable as criminal rather than civil. That is fact, not conjecture.
They are at the very least breaking online sales legislation, without everything else. They do not deserve to be given a break until they make up for this. Good service like you have received should be a given, not a lucky draw.
You're very personal towards them MBL
This seems to be getting WAY to out of hand, give them a break guys
I'm inclined to think it's still civil, though the threats would be getting it into criminal...
Bexcy-bee x
It needs an accountant to look at the accounts they file for the tax year 2012/13 and see if from they income they have declared and work out what the difference is, if any, taking into account the orders they haven't filled but have may have claimed costs for. If they have claimed for costs they haven't incurred that's tax fraud.
This seems to be getting WAY to out of hand, give them a break guys
The companies last 2 years accounts are in the public domain and can be viewed on http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/shwmae-products/?x=ywhg3cg
There is a small charge to download the accounts (these are abridged accounts only) but both years show a substantial trading loss.
What is an interesting question is, why when people make a bank transfer for products from the Shwmae Products Ltd, that the account that they have purported to have paid into, is under the name of one of the Directors (see previous posts on this thread in relation to this topic), and not into the actual Ltd Companies own account.
In my own experience of having Ltd Companies, all goods and services provided by that company are invoiced by the Ltd company, and the customer/s in turn pay into the Ltd Company account and not account of of my own name - but this is just in my experience of having Ltd. companies.
The companies last 2 years accounts are in the public domain and can be viewed on http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/shwmae-products/?x=ywhg3cg
There is a small charge to download the accounts (these are abridged accounts only) but both years show a substantial trading loss.
What is an interesting question is, why when people make a bank transfer for products from the Shwmae Products Ltd, that the account that they have purported to have paid into, is under the name of one of the Directors (see previous posts on this thread in relation to this topic), and not into the actual Ltd Companies own account.
In my own experience of having Ltd Companies, all goods and services provided by that company are invoiced by the Ltd company, and the customer/s in turn pay into the Ltd Company account and not account of of my own name - but this is just in my experience of having Ltd. companies.
The last accounts filed at Companies House were October 2012 (they have until July 2014 to file the October 2013 accounts so this is normal). They filed small company accounts, which means there won't be a profit and loss account even if you paid to download the full report. Tax returns are confidential so there is no way you can get those, even for a company.It needs an accountant to look at the accounts they file for the tax year 2012/13 and see if from they income they have declared and work out what the difference is, if any, taking into account the orders they haven't filled but have may have claimed costs for. If they have claimed for costs they haven't incurred that's tax fraud.
that's probably how she denies ever receiving payment cause it didn't go to company account
What is an interesting question is, why when people make a bank transfer for products from the Shwmae Products Ltd, that the account that they have purported to have paid into, is under the name of one of the Directors (see previous posts on this thread in relation to this topic), and not into the actual Ltd Companies own account.
In my own experience of having Ltd Companies, all goods and services provided by that company are invoiced by the Ltd company, and the customer/s in turn pay into the Ltd Company account and not account of of my own name - but this is just in my experience of having Ltd. companies.