So-called "Rescue sites" Charity comes out AGAINST!!!

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WELL SAID........

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/news/the_horse_trust_criticises_rescue_of_foreign_slaughter_horses_/484

These 2 points stand out as reasons NOT TO BUY....

"Most of the slaughter horses that are rescued only have basic vet checks and may have minor issues such as lice or ticks, or more serious issues, such as an infectious disease. We are particularly worried about the risk of Equine Infectious Anaemia virus being brought into the UK, after the recent outbreak in France2,"


Another woman that contacted The Horse Trust had purchased a pony for its meat price from a fattening farm in France, but asked if the charity could rehome it as she did not have the knowledge or skills to cope with the pony's behavioural problems.


We, as responsible UK equine owners, must be aware of the potential "threat" to the UK herd.....

Please discourage ANYONE you may hear of who might be tempted.

There are thousands of Horses and Ponies that need to have decent homes in this country...and yes, MANY go to Slaughter here too....

i have 3 at my yard ATM..all taken from the meat chain...all really lovely ponies.

SO THINK.

thank you for reading.

JM
 
Well said Horse Trust. Having had 2 WHW ponies in the past I think it is crazy that these french rescue sites are encouraging people to bring horses in from France, there are plenty in this country who need rescuing.
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It's very reassuing to see how people like the Horse Trust, DEFRA and obviously WHW are really starting to be so much more vocal about their concerns over foreign imports, under the guise of rescue.
 
Well said JM07.

There is more then enough horses in this country that need help.

Its a shame people dont put all there energy in looking after them first.
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Brilliant articles - perhaps this will now make people think!! Too many people want to jump in and say that anyone who is against these imports are horse haters and killers - perhaps they will stop being so naive now and understand that we are against it because we care about the bigger picture.

Also they are not rescues.
 
Hopefully this highlights how wrong it is that UK equine charities have to deal with rehoming animals 'rescued' from France, on top of all the valuable work that they do for UK equines in need.
 
How do you go about rescueing a horse from slaughter. I assume markets, but just how do you know?

Do you have contact with the slaughter house and they let you knowwhen something comes in.

Sorry for being ignorant, but what is the procedure?
 
you don't "rescue" it, you BUY it!

scrag end dealers and sales have meat ponies ALL the time..
 
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How do you go about rescueing a horse from slaughter. I assume markets, but just how do you know?

Do you have contact with the slaughter house and they let you knowwhen something comes in.

Sorry for being ignorant, but what is the procedure?

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If I were to set myself up as a 'rescue site', the procedure is;
1. Get a website, declare myself a 'not for profit' charity.
2. I would then contact a low end dealer in France
3. Advertise horses on the website for more than the meat price, add cost of transport on (using vague/blurry pics).
4. Have a team of mods to prod the website members using phrases like 'Who will buy this beautiful boy' and 'Only 2 weeks left before the bad lorry comes for this stunner'.
5. You, the member, when you choose to buy, pays the cash into my paypal account. You also pay a fee for transport.
(6. Simultaneously I would encourage people who can't afford a whole horse, to give 'donations'. I then buy the horse, import it, and sell it on.)
7. You the member, awaits the 'good lorry' which will deliver to you up to 1 ton of often unvetted, unhandled, unsocialised horse, possibly with added extras like EIA which will infect your others and mean they have to be culled.
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8. If the horse survives, however, you can sell the horse on, adding money onto his price to 'recoup your costs' and still calling yourself a rescue.
9. If the horse is really awful - unrideable, or sick, or needs more care and attention than you want to give it, you can 'donate' it generously to a UK charity, despite the fact they appear to be bursting at the seams.
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I am not a 'Rescue Charity' however - so don't send me your orders!
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At long last...Is this not what some of us have been saying all along.

Please please buy british

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Trouble is, how do you know you are buying british when buying from a sales ring?
I know for a fact, that a local "dealer" who buys a huge amounts of "imports" sells them through the sale ring with uk issued passports, when he will tell you himself it "came from belgium"
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At long last...Is this not what some of us have been saying all along.

Please please buy british

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Trouble is, how do you know you are buying british when buying from a sales ring?
I know for a fact, that a local "dealer" who buys a huge amounts of "imports" sells them through the sale ring with uk issued passports, when he will tell you himself it "came from belgium"
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That's a very good point - and illustrates perfectly why a group of HHOers are working to reform the Equine Import legislation (specifically the Tri-partite agreement meaning there are no health checks on horses moving between France, UK, Ireland).
At the moment, I could go to France, buy an EIA infected meat horse, bring it across, and pop it in the field next to yours.
When DEFRA finds out - both horses will be slaughtered, but you will be paid a magnificent £1 compensation.
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If its on British soil already with a British passport then its a British horse that may or may not end up going to a British/Franch slaughterhouse..

What I am trying to say is we don't need to be importing any more sale ring horses
 
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Going via the racing industry for a TB?

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Which has to be better than spending a grand on bringing one over from Franch. An awful lot of racing rejects are free to a good home. I've been offered three in the last two years.
 
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Going via the racing industry for a TB?

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Which has to be better than spending a grand on bringing one over from Franch. An awful lot of racing rejects are free to a good home. I've been offered three in the last two years.

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the pictures i've seen of the latest joint venture "must have" rescue, are shocking TBH...It should be left where it is..as it's obviously in the Meat Chain for a reason...
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3 perfectly healthy TB's went through Leominster march time...all vacc'd up to date, passported ETC...they went for less than £600 each..
 
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3 perfectly healthy TB's went through Leominster march time...all vacc'd up to date, passported ETC...they went for less than £600 each..

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Jeysus JM
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3 perfectly healthy TB's went through Leominster march time...all vacc'd up to date, passported ETC...they went for less than £600 each..

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sadly true...infact one quite small (15.1) gelding was only 280 quid!!

another strapping gelding..potential WH i would have thought..or P2P went for 500...and a grey filly by Linamix (NH type) was 600
 
Whilst I personally hate official interference, maybe if there were a 3 month quarantine period which had to be done at an offical DEFRA approved premises, and a £500 import tax this would stop these types of imports.

For those buying an expensive import, well three months quarantine and £500 import tax would not be too much of a concern.

Obviously UK passported horses going out for stud or competition purposes would be exempt on this when coming back.

I would have though this would bring the cheap import trade to an end or a mere trickle.

Just a thought and it could work, it would not stop things going out, just coming in which is what we want to discourage in some cases.
 
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period which had to be done at an offical DEFRA approved premises, and a £500 import tax this would stop these types of imports.

<font color="blue">this would certainly stop the scrag end dealers peddling shite </font>

For those buying an expensive import, well three months quarantine and £500 import tax would not be too much of a concern.
<font color="blue"> no, it wouldn't be alot extra in the grand scheme of things </font>

Obviously UK passported horses going out for stud or competition purposes would be exempt on this when coming back.
<font color="blue"> the TPA covers these ATM..but there are loopholes </font>
I would have though this would bring the cheap import trade to an end or a mere trickle.
<font color="blue"> can't come soon enough IMO </font>
Just a thought and it could work, it would not stop things going out, just coming in which is what we want to discourage in some cases.

<font color="blue"> indeed..things need to be addressed before a outbreak occurs of EIA</font>

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Here is a very interesting link to a UK charity/ non profit organisation going against everything said..

They could have gotten 2 for the price of this French bred TB
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They could have gotten 2 for the price of this French bred TB
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That scar and the dented ribs suggests a serious trama...

and as for her being "english"...PMSL...hasn't anyone checked out her breeding?...it clearly states "FR" in her breeding..MASSIVE clue there that infact she is FRENCH bred" LOL!!
 
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