SO SHY IS GOING TO A RETIREMENT HOME ?

[ycbm]

To be Frank, taking this chance is better than him being shot.

That would depend on how you found her and how much you really know about her. It worries me, I'm afraid, to see you write that you are giving her a lot of money.
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[Shysmum]

There’s worse fates for a horse than pts. Calling it ‘shot’ is just human emoting, which absolutely shouldn’t come into a pts decision.

I hope this works out for him.

You're very helpful, never forget it. A becoming trait.

 

[Dexter]

To be Frank, taking this chance is better than him being shot.

Its better for you, but there's a really good chance its not going to be better for him.

 

[Shysmum]

I give up with this very personal, sad thread. When you need suppot here these is always someone to knock you down. B******* to it. Thanks to those that have been supportive at such a very difficult time.

 

[Fieldlife]

It depends, if I had land, was retired and already had some retired horses, I might be genuinely willing to take on another with medical issues for a donation towards his lifetime medical bills. And I’d absolutely want to own the horse to have control. It doesn’t have to be dodgy if you know person and they clearly have a number of well looked after, non working horses already.

 

[Palindrome]

I think people have your and your horse's interest at heart. It seems a bit dodgy to give your horse away and money on top of that, particularly if you are short on money like you said.
A colored cob happy hacker is worth about 3k in France.

 

[nagblagger]

[QUOTE="Fieldlife, post:It depends, if I had land, was retired and already had some retired horses, I might be genuinely willing to take on another with medical issues for a donation towards his lifetime medical bills. And I’d absolutely want to own the horse to have control. It doesn’t have to be dodgy if you know person and they clearly have a number of well looked after, non working horses already.[/QUOTE]

This is why i have so many 'field ornaments', although i don't have my own land or got given any money, i did insist they were signed over to me.

 

[Jenko109]

To be Frank, taking this chance is better than him being shot.

I strongly disagree and am very surprised that you are willing to take such a big risk when it can have such a detrimental affect on the welfare of this pony.

 

[Shysmum]

Shy is nothing more than a field ornament now, he cannot be ridden. My vet contacted this lady to see if she could take him on, alternatively it would be PTS in the best interests of my beloved horse.

 

[Shysmum]

I strongly disagree and am very surprised that you are willing to take such a big risk when it can have such a detrimental affect on the welfare of this pony.

Oh get stuffed, none of your business

 

[nagblagger]

If the vet, whom you trust, has recommended this woman and you have visited her and 'sussed' her out, i can't see the problem.

 

[misst]

I don't know this woman or the true circumstance but I know you love your horse. I hope this works well for you and Shy and that you can come back to the UK with the shettie and have a good life . People are questioning because they are suspicious and worried on your behalf. None of us are in your shoes but I don't think anyone is downing on you, just worried. x Hugs x

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I think its odd that you would give this woman money to take your pony.

 

[SO1]

If the vet recommends this lady then perhaps it ok however I would rather give the money for the vet directly than the lady as you know it can only go on vet stuff.

Shy is nothing more than a field ornament now, he cannot be ridden. My vet contacted this lady to see if she could take him on, alternatively it would be PTS in the best interests of my beloved horse.

 

[motherof2beasts!]

Have you visited her ?

 

[ycbm]

Shy is nothing more than a field ornament now, he cannot be ridden. My vet contacted this lady to see if she could take him on, alternatively it would be PTS in the best interests of my beloved horse.

I'm writing this with some trepidation, I don't want to seem to be having a go at you but you still have time to change your mind. Please remember that we have only what you yourself have written recently to go on.

You described having to hose crusted sweat off Shy because the effort of gasping for breath while simply standing in a field was, albeit intermittently, too much for him. If trying a nebuliser has resolved this then it's difficult to understand why he can't come to the UK with you. And if a nebuliser has not resolved this, or has not been tried, then it's difficult to understand why it would not be better for him to be PTS.

I know this isn't the post you personally need, and I'm very sorry about that, but going purely on what you yourself have already written about Shy it sounds as if there is a real danger that this decision isn't in Shy's best interests.

I mean this with the best of intentions, and I hope your move back to the UK goes well.
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[MidChristmasCrisis]

You re still gonna be shysmum! I wish I could heal broken hearts have a hug instead.

 

[southerncomfort]

We're a cynical lot Shysmum and sometimes we see red flags where their are none.

However, something about this doesn't feel right and I'm worried for you and Shy.

Are you under pressure from someone not to take Shy to the UK?

 

[Arzada]

I give up with this very personal, sad thread. When you need suppot here these is always someone to knock you down. B******* to it. Thanks to those that have been supportive at such a very difficult time.

I don't think that anyone is knocking you down. You are feeling knocked down because some posts are expressing concern rather than giving you the support you are looking for. Yet people are being supportive. They are expressing their concern with the interests of both you and Shy at heart.

 

[AmyMay]

I don't think that anyone is knocking you down. You are feeling knocked down because some posts are expressing concern rather than giving you the support you are looking for. Yet people are being supportive. They are expressing their concern with the interests of both you and Shy at heart.

This.

You receive nothing but support from posters on here. Support doesn’t always come in the form of things that you want to hear. But it’s support nonetheless.

But I’m sure everyone will be relieved (for you and Shy) to learn that you’ve done your homework on the new home. That you’ve met the person in question having visited and discussed with them Shy’s requirements. And you’re confident in the level of care they’ll provide.

 

[ihatework]

I’d be a little concerned about a big upfront payment in this situation. Given it appears you share the same vet I’d be inclined to get the vet to bill you direct for any vet intervention shy needs

 

[cauda equina]

I’d be a little concerned about a big upfront payment in this situation. Given it appears you share the same vet I’d be inclined to get the vet to bill you direct for any vet intervention shy needs

That sounds like a good plan as it would also keep you informed about he was getting on, and if necessary involved in any decisions on his treatment

 

[Getbackboys]

please dont do it, i have a bad feeling about it the minute i read your first post, agree with others we care about you, Shy and Pepsi. you do not know this person only what you have been told, in a perfect world, sadly there isnt one.

i cannot see why you cannot transport him to the UK, stop and give nebuliser on the way if necessary but please dont leave him behind and with a wad of cash, please dont, rather pts….prayers for a good outcome

 

[Polos Mum]

I am truly a cynical person. But what is to stop this lady taking your "large sum of cash up front" then having him PTS the day he arrives?

 

[Fieldlife]

I am truly a cynical person. But what is to stop this lady taking your "large sum of cash up front" then having him PTS the day he arrives?

But presumably if this a lady that’s known and recommended by the vet, and has a number of other long term retired horse she won’t. I don’t see what is wrong with asking for a cash lump sum towards vet bills, to take on a horse that’s a field ornament with known expensive medical conditions.

IF I was the person rehoming Shy. I’d want money up front to long term home an unrideable horse with medical issues.

I’d not accept ex-owner moving to a different country, giving me the un rideable and expensive to keep horse and promising to pay future vet bills. Risk for me of out of sight out of mind is too great. I’d ask for money up front too.

I don’t think this has to be dodgy, if checks out on visits, on gut feeling meeting lady snd seeing her facilities and other horses, and the fact recommendation came via Shy’sMum’s vet.

 

[fiwen30]

I am truly a cynical person. But what is to stop this lady taking your "large sum of cash up front" then having him PTS the day he arrives?

Or sold on, with full-disclosure, or not.

Or indeed, PTS or sold on down the line - the lady’s circumstances could change just as easily as anyone else’s.

Going only from what has previously been written about this horse, I don’t think I could live with that possibility. When we own animals, we have ultimate responsibility for their well-being.

 

[Polos Mum]

I hope my scepticism is unfounded - I really do.

But why would anyone be gifted a "field ornament with known expensive medical conditions " - if not for the money
Any if they are just in it for the money then the best way to make the most is to not keep him very long.

I am sure there are wonderful lovely people out there who do things from the goodness of their heart as charitable acts of kindness to animals.

I am also sure there are scumbags who lie cheat and don't give a dam about animal welfare and do it all with a smile and a nice face. Even vets can be given backhanders to be in on scams (as we know because some pass lame horses for dodgy dealers)

I know that I personally find it very difficult to tell these groups of people apart (and others are the same which is why we have so many stories on here of companion horses being sold on)

 

[holeymoley]

Could you maybe pay the vet the money upfront and they can keep it on account for you when anything is needed?

 

[Fieldlife]

I hope my scepticism is unfounded - I really do.

But why would anyone be gifted a "field ornament with known expensive medical conditions " - if not for the money
Any if they are just in it for the money then the best way to make the most is to not keep him very long.

I am sure there are wonderful lovely people out there who do things from the goodness of their heart as charitable acts of kindness to animals.

I am also sure there are scumbags who lie cheat and don't give a dam about animal welfare and do it all with a smile and a nice face. Even vets can be given backhanders to be in on scams (as we know because some pass lame horses for dodgy dealers)

I know that I personally find it very difficult to tell these groups of people apart (and others are the same which is why we have so many stories on here of companion horses being sold on)

But if the vet has personally recommended the lady, and the lady has other retired horses, and land, she could be genuine. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to want a lump sum for future vet bills for a retired horse with an ongoing medical condition.

e.g. if you took on a retired horse with cushings who couldnt be ridden but needed 2 prascend a day, asking original owner to contribute to a few years of cost of prascend would not seem unreasonable to me. It wouldnt scream dodgy, just practical and fair as the horse has almost no value commercially, and the new owner will be feeding and caring for it.

 

[Dexter]

But if the vet has personally recommended the lady, and the lady has other retired horses, and land, she could be genuine. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to want a lump sum for future vet bills for a retired horse with an ongoing medical condition.

e.g. if you took on a retired horse with cushings who couldnt be ridden but needed 2 prascend a day, asking original owner to contribute to a few years of cost of prascend would not seem unreasonable to me. It wouldnt scream dodgy, just practical and fair as the horse has almost no value commercially, and the new owner will be feeding and caring for it.

There might be one person who is genuine and can be trusted, but there will be twenty more that either cant or something changes in their life. How is it worth that risk?

To rehome a horse who is sweating trying to breathe doesn't sit right with me either. In fact, I think I would offer to take the horse and then use the cash to quietly PTS to end his suffering if he's as bad as described previously.