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I had my lovely dog out for a walk at the weekend! it was one of the first properly nice days in a while so we (well I....he didn't have a choice!!) decided that we should go for a nice walk in the woods! Now the woods were quiet )7:45am! so my dog was off the lead mooching about in the long grass at the side of the track, I should mention he has excellent recall....even when he started chasing a rabbit! now about half an hour into our walk a jogger came past, and due to having some manners I called my dog back to my side to allow the jogger plenty of room to go past to which the jogger shouted ' that dog is dangerous he shouldn't be in a public place, especially if he cant be trusted not to chase people running past'! this confused me greatly as my dog was still off lead and was lying at my side chewing a stick waiting for said jogger to get out of our way so we could continue! I put it off as a case of mistaken identity and we continued our walk. about another 20 minutes later Bear was still off his lead and a collie came running up to him trying to get him to play. at which point the owner of said collie ran up to us screaming and yelling for me to ' get my dog under control and put a muzzle on him!' all while screaming on her dog........I took a long sign and called bear back to my side, which he did immediately to allow this stupid woman to chase her collie around us for 5 minutes trying to catch it! I was quite pleased that I managed to do this al without mentioning that it was HER dog that came up to US! now I should maybe say that my dog is a mutt and looks like he could be American bull dog X Rottweiler X Bull Mastiff or something similar to that! However I feel that my dog did nothing wrong in any of these situations! When will people stop blaming the breed! yes my dog is big (11 months and about 7.5 stone) but he is always polite and well behaved and in fact has better manners than the majority of people that we meet on our outings! Sorry for the rant but I am so sick of people blaming my dog for something he didn't do! He is a nice dog with a big heart its just a shame people cant be the same way!!!! GGGRGGRRRRRRRRRR
 
Unfortunately people will always blame other dogs for their dogs misgivings, Ive been told I shouldnt have those sort of dogs when walking mine even though they are solid citizens, its usually by someone who owns a yapper which is shrieking to high heavens and mine are not even remotely interested.

Your dog sounds lovely OP and very well behaved, all you can do is suck it up and be proud your dog is so obedient and dependable.

I would love to see a photo of him, he sounds a lovely big boy.
 
I know! I am very proud of him, only 11 months and he is always well behaved, never been naughty, his only down side is the snoring in my ear when im trying to sleep! he is very very loud! it usually is the little yappy dogs, it does sometimes make me laugh when getting a lecture from a dog owner who has a little rat on the end of the lead that is pulling and barking and shrieking on the end of the lead about how a dog should behave! especially since my boy is usually off lead lying by my side of following a butterfly at the time! How do I put up a picture? not very good with this forum yet!
 
You have the media to thank.

We have an overgrown Boxer rescue (who the vet has informed us is actually either a Bullmastiff or if not definitely a bullmastiff x boxer), anyway, he's a good 8 stone. Maybe slightly more. He was sat in the car in the local village hanging his head out of the car whilst I nipped into the shop. As I came out I heard two women discussing whether to report him as he was "one of those dangerous banned dogs." Funnily enough, he's neither dangerous nor banned. And he was doing nothing wrong either. People.
 
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Your dog has got bull breed in him, or looks like once a million years ago may have been related to one..... sadly due to idiot owners having them for no good reason and the Daily fail basically telling all and sundry that they are "devil dogs" joe public seems to think they all go about the countryside tearing little kids and other dogs to shreds..........

PICS required of your boy please Corie -he sounds lovely.....
 
Your dog sounds lovely and I think it is brilliant he is so well trained. He is also very very lucky he is in a good home :-) not sitting in a pound because there are just too many bull mixtures being bred for the amount of people who want them.
However instead having a go at the people who are worried about these dogs why don't we all unite and instead be angry at the owners and irresponsible breeders who are giving the dogs a bad name.

In Scotland dog attacks are increasing and by bull x breeds as reported by the police. There was a horrible attack on an eight year old girl who was outside playing. It is being debated at the minute.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ist-will-cut-rising-risk-of-attacks-1-3263327
 
But its not because it was a bull breed - a malamute or Husky killed a baby last week........... in both cases the dogs had stupid owners!!
 
Why don't you read my post more carefully? It is irresponsible breeders and owners who happen at the minute to be focussing on bull x breeds thus there is an increase in bull x breed attacks ( in Scotland) thus people are afraid of these dogs.
 
No one was having a go at folk who are worried about these dogs- just at other dog owners/ members of the public who over react to a perfectly well behaved animal because of the way he looks - YES react is it comes at you snarling, not if its sat by its owner minding its own business.

Your link is suggesting penalising anyone who owns a decent sized dog? Its like saying Tom pushed another kid over because he is a horrible little boy (because of maybe poor parenting), so all boys in his class are in detention.

i'd like to see the stats on the increase of bull breed attacks compared to a) numbers owned and b) other breeds as what is quoted in your link has no reference to breed- just that dog attacks have risen- maybe the number of dogs owned has risen too
 
I think the thing that frustrates me the most are these people who feel they have the right to give me a lecture on how to train/handle a dog just because there dog is tiny!
1. Yes my dog is larger than most
2. Yes I took that into consideration when I got him
3. He has been very well trained....however my other dog who is a mini schnauzer is also very well trained
4. He has been taught respect for everyone (he plays with the mini schnauzer gently, is great around the horses and always helpful and sweet with my 89 year old granddad!)


yet the person who cant stop their dog from barking feels that because he is big he is badly behaved?! I just don't understand the logic! all of my dogs are taught it is not ok to jump on, run into, pull or put your teeth on any person no matter what kind of dog it is! it is basic manners! I do admit there have been a time or two when I would gladly have seem bear eat someones little rat dog! but am very much aware of how big and strong he is (even though he isn't aware himself ;) ) and because of this I have taken extra care to teach him a few extra commands! such as gentle, quietly and baby! then he knows if he can play and what kind of play is acceptable!

And on the issue of children I would NEVER leave ANY dog alone with a child! it is completely irresponsible! Children (especially) babies can be rather rough without meaning to be....it is not the dogs fault if the baby is allowed to pinch nip and bite the dog and it reacts! At the end of the day a dog is only a dog, it doesn't rationalise it reacts to the situation it is in and if it is feeling pain it will react in the only way it knows how! Some deal with that pain better than others!
Irresponsible dog owners and irresponsible parents seem to be on the increase and seem to go hand in hand, I think that is the reason we are having so many dog attacks!

Dogs and children should be taught to respect each other!
 
lexiedhb said:
i'd like to see the stats on the increase of bull breed attacks compared to a) numbers owned and b) other breeds as what is quoted in your link has no reference to breed- just that dog attacks have risen- maybe the number of dogs owned has risen too
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Ditto. The media only tend to report attacks by the breeds that sell the papers.
My vet has said he very rarely has to muzzle a dog of a 'dangerous breed'. Still, "killer labrador" doesn't quite sell the rag like "Bullmastiff attack - devil dog strikes AGAIN".
I don't see why owners of any dog larger than a chihuahua should have to prove their dog to not be dangerous. It's like saying every celebrity male over the age of 50 should have to prove he was nothing to do with Jimmy Saville.
 
I always get funny looks walking the dog tucked up in a hoodie and people cross the road (once someone ran away? that helps..) (French mastiff for the record!)

Everyone is too judgmental... I just ignore it now..
 
I guess people just prejudice against large dogs. Too bad you live in a place where you can even run into other people in the forest at such an ungodly hour.
 
OP I agree with you but if I think if people are scared or worried about a dog it is a different a matter .

This is a recent incident up here, ( not serious no nasty pics or anything) the dogs look absolutely lovely but if I saw the 76 year old owner walking towards me with them, I would be thinking oh crap I hope those dogs are human and dog friendly http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/woman-probed-police-over-dangerous-3147068 .
 
There is an increase in the number of bull breed crosses, at least there is in rescue, whether this is because more irresponsible people are buying them and then getting rid when they become too much or because there is too many being bred I really couldn't say.

There is definately a problem with members of the public against large dogs, its the public perception of them thats the problem. Even in my tiny community and I live outside the village Ive had people crossing the road pulling their children towards them when they have seen me with my 2 Dobes both on lead. My dogs couldnt give a monkeys and just ignore people but it is worrying that people think like that.
 
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i have a GSDx (1/4 rottie), he is a rescue and still 'in training!' but already much better behaved then many dogs you see. i also hate how just because it is a small dog owners let it yap, snap and bark away, when if my boy was doing the same behaviors he would probably be reported for being dangerous. yes he is bigger, but small dogs can still do a lot of damage.

i just try my best to change peoples opinions and it makes it even more important to have a very well behaved/trained dog
 
We don't normally walk where we would meet any other dog walkers. Recently I have been wanting to socialise a young dog we have and so have been walking in more doggy areas. We met a young guy with a large bull breed that he put on the lead but it was so so friendly. But it did surprise us how many dogs we met with no owner in sight who stalked up to us with their hackles up and then circled us. No tail wagging. I remembered reading on here someone saying keep walking which we did!
 
I have exactly the same problem, I have a malamute who has excellent manners but people still yell at their dogs to get away from him or cross the road to avoid him. He has fab recall so if there are no roads around I happily let him off lead but if there is another dog on a lead I always make sure to put him back on the lead too. The other day he was off lead and a woman with a yellow lab was coming towards us, her dog was off lead but by her side so I left Ash off his lead assuming hers was good but when Ash went to run up to her dog to say hi I shouted of him to wait which he did then when I told him to go slowly he did and stopped short of her dog which then came to meet him and they had a sniff of each other but the woman went mad shouting to her dog to walk on and that mine should be on a lead and muzzled, honestly she had just watched him stop dead whwn told to wait and then quitely walk over to her dog and wait again for him to come to him and yet he is obviously a danger to all! I wanted to give her a mouthful but it wouldn't have helped so I just walked off and Ash followed without even being called.
 
I feel for you OP I really do, I have 2 staffs, their recall is attrocious, so they do not get to go off the lead unless they are in an empty field with no distractions, they are getting better mind,
I take them to a local golf course, kept on those extended leads, with my sister in law, they are not dangerous, although do jump up, are very submissive despite their being two of them,

Dogs that are off the lead come running over and start getting all worked up and we get screamed at for it... Dogs cowering on the floor (unless a friendly dog then they are very playful)

I do not keep my mouth shut mind you, I am keeping my dog under control, If I see a dog hurtling towards us, they are made to sit, and do so.

Ho hum, My nasty vicous staffs, who kindly watch over my 60 odd rabbits, chickens so the fox does not eat them for lunch, are very friendly, if a little annoying :D

ETA - Spelling and grammar awful, but im too tired to care :D
 
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My dog is bigger than most gsd x rottie, and ok he's not the best trained out there (no Velcro heel and can meander sometimes on a recall) but I manage him so things don't become an issue. Yet still, if someone's smaller dog has a pop at mine, whether on lead or off lead, it seems it's always my fault! Despite the fact that my dog couldn't care less about all but two dogs (two local dogs, one an aggressive gsd due to its owner always ragging it on a 6" lead mad making it defensive, and one my neighbours dog and both have always taking a disliking to each other!)
 
It's a shame when all dogs (or people for that matter) get tarred with the same brush and if you have a large well behaved dog it must be very frustrating. I have to admit though that I am nervous when I see large dogs because of an unpleasant experience involving an idiotic owner and a pack of out of control ridgebacks which still makes me feel sick, thinking what might have happened. I certainly wouldn't be rude to anyone but you may think I was making an unfair judgement by avoiding you and or looking nervous!
 
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Why don't you read my post more carefully? It is irresponsible breeders and owners who happen at the minute to be focussing on bull x breeds thus there is an increase in bull x breed attacks
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Really? Is there? Or is it just being more widely reported?

The worst, most aggressive dog I've ever met is mine. He will try to kill any other dog, up to and including a Rottweiler. He has had years of training, tons of money and time but he is still not good with other dogs. Fortunately, he's amazing with people although that too took lots of work. He's a springer. Everyone avoids us in the park (thank god!)

When the media stop sensationalising bull breeds, perhaps the gen pub will stop automatically reacting to the very sight of them with hysterical screams :rolleyes3:
 
Yes I did do a link to the police report. One area in Scotland e.g in 2010 a dozen attacks by pit bull v previously one attack per year. 57 attacks under Dangerous dogs in the year of which "Staffies were responsible for seven cases reported for prosecution during the last year, as well as the highest number of attacks among all breeds since 2005 with a total of 31" However later in the article it says Staffie crosses are often larger bull breed x's mis-described.
With regards the overbreeding of bull breeds please just take a look at the SSPCA site, the numbers on the left hand side: Staffies are so far ahead at 59 compared with all other dogs http://www.scottishspca.org/Rehoming

and a wee bit more "number of dog attacks reported to police totalled 623 in 2006-7 compared to 239 in 1999-2000. The majority of attacks, however, are never recorded and experts say the true figure is likely to be several times higher."
 
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RhaLoulou said:
It's a shame when all dogs (or people for that matter) get tarred with the same brush and if you have a large well behaved dog it must be very frustrating. I have to admit though that I am nervous when I see large dogs because of an unpleasant experience involving an idiotic owner and a pack of out of control ridgebacks which still makes me feel sick, thinking what might have happened. I certainly wouldn't be rude to anyone but you may think I was making an unfair judgement by avoiding you and or looking nervous!
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Please don't misunderstand! I do get that to some people he is intimidating.....after a personal issue it was one of the reasons I chose to take on such a big dog. My issue is that I am very understanding of this, which is why if I see people with a small child I call him back although he would never even notice I think it shows respect from myself to the parents to show that my dog is under control. If there is another dog on a lead then I will call him back and put him on his and I always take him out of the way of cyclists/jogger/horse riders (although the only thing he wants to do with horses is lick their ears........weirdo dog!). my problem is when I do all this to show respect to the other people in the public areas and they show no respect back! if I had a lab and their dog ran up to it the owner would say it was only play but if my dog is off lead and their dog runs up to him somehow he gets painted as a demon dog. maybe control your own dog and stop him coming up to mine if you are that worried!

I am not sure I agree with the article that stated that all bull breeds should have to be muzzled in public places! my dog has never bitten anyone, why should he be forced to wear a muzzle, yes if they have shown any signs of aggression it is a different situation all together (although not completely a lost cause).
 
firm said:
Yes I did do a link to the police report. One area in Scotland e.g in 2010 a dozen attacks by pit bull v previously one attack per year. 57 attacks under Dangerous dogs in the year of which "Staffies were responsible for seven cases reported for prosecution during the last year, as well as the highest number of attacks among all breeds since 2005 with a total of 31" However later in the article it says Staffie crosses are often larger bull breed x's mis-described.
With regards the overbreeding of bull breeds please just take a look at the SSPCA site, the numbers on the left hand side: Staffies are so far ahead at 59 compared with all other dogs http://www.scottishspca.org/Rehoming

and a wee bit more "number of dog attacks reported to police totalled 623 in 2006-7 compared to 239 in 1999-2000. The majority of attacks, however, are never recorded and experts say the true figure is likely to be several times higher."
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yes but the point is if there was a "boom" in GSD ownership there would be more "attacks" by GSD's - the more there are the more likely someone is to get bitten. Yes there is an over breeding issue- actually with ALL breeds IMO.

Noone can speculate as to numbers that go unrecorded
 
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