Patterdale
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And the worse thing is, it would still have tonnes of entries
Yes because it’s easy!!
So what has British Eventing done wrong?
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Yes because it’s easy!!
Gamebird
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Floors! Also Cumwhinton, and the short-lived Hutton-in-the-Forest, in the shadow of Blencathra - two out of those three were also FEI.
Gamebird
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Things may be changing there in a more positive fashion, fingers crossed.
RachelFerd
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Here's a possibly more thorough list - although still not fully comprehensive - and I think there are maybe some duplicates on here
Aldon
Amersham
Arley hall
Ashby Puerorum, Lincolnshire
Aston Park
Aswanley
Authinleck
Barthorpe, Yorks
Bath & West
Beamish
Beckwithshaw
Belmont Park
Belton
Berrington Hall, Worcs.
Bickenhall, Rolleston
Billesdon
Borough Court
Brand Hall
Brechin
Brendon Hills
Bretton, Yorkshire
Brightling
Brigstock
Brockenhurst
Brockwood Park
Brooksby Melton college
Brougham
Bucklebury near reading
Burnham Beeches
Carlisle
Carlton
Chagford
Charlton Park
Charterhall, Berwickshire
Chelsworth Park near Hadleigh suffolk
Cheltenham
Cleobury Mortimer, Worcs
Clumber Park
Cockley Cley
Colliemore
Copt Oak
Cromer
Culzean Castle
Cumwhinton
Dalston Green
Denbigh
Dodington
Downlands
Draycott House
Drumclog
Duchy College
Dunsfold in Surrey
Dunsfold Ryse
Dynes Hall
Ebbesbourne Wake
Eden valley
Eglinton
Eridge
Ermington
Everdon, Northampton
Floors Castle
Forest Mere
Frensham liphook
Glanusk Estate
Glasgow Stud, Enfield
Gleneagles
Glenluse
Goodwood
Graveley
Great Missenden
Great Tew
Grimston park
Hambleden
Hatherleigh
Henbury Hall, Cheshire
Henderside
Hexham
Highclere Castle
Hogshaw
Holdenby Hall
Holker Hall Cumbria
Hopetoun
Hough Hall in Wilmslow, Cheshire
Houghall
Houston
Hutton in the Forrest
Ickworth Park near Bury St Edmunds
Iping
Ivesley
Jervaulx
Killerton
Kilmington
Kirkley Hall
Knaptoft
Labley House
Lackham
Lambley House
Lanhydrock
Llanfechan
Llanover
Locko Park
Longleat
Lowsby
Lulworth Castle
Lymington
Malpas, Cheshire
Marchington, Tutbury
Markyate
Mattingley
Meriden
Mill Hill
Milton Keynes
Montacute
Moulton College
Mount Ballan
Northampton
Nurstead court
Nutwell Court
Oatridge
Okehampton (Grange)
Orchard Portman
Osmaston
Oulton Park
Oving
Parkgate, Wirral
Pebworth and Batsford
Pembrey and Pencoed
Penton
Pepper Harrow in Surrey
Petworth
Powderham Castle
Prestwold Hall
Pulborough
Pwoderham Castle
Ragley Hall
Rockcliffe
Rodbaston, Staffordshire
Rolleston
Rotherfield
Ruffled Park
Rushall
Russel Farm Wendover
Sadborow (Wessex Taunton)
Salperton
Sansaw
Sapperton
Savernack
Savernake Forest
Scone Palace
Scotsburn
Scunthorpe
Shamley Green
Shilpton Moyne
Shipley Park, Locko Park
Shipton Moyne
Shropshire and Malpas
Shuttleworrh
Somerley park
Somerlyton
Southwell Racecourse
Spire Park
Bath and West
Spring Hill
Stamford Rivers
Stilemans
Stockland Lovell
Ston Easton
Stonar
Stoneleigh Park
Storeton Hall, Wirral
Strathallan
Stubley Court
Swerford
Syde Park
Tedworth house
Tetton Hall
Thirlestane
Thorton Le Dale
Thorton Watlass
Tidworth
Titlington
Trefnant
Tregembo
Turbury
Turnberry
Tutbury
Tyrhrop Park
Urchinwood Manor
W Aldridge Manor, Rickmansworth
Wakefield
Waldridge
Wellesbourne
Whitfield
Wilton
Wiltshire College
Windmill Hill, Stratford upon Avon,
Windsor Park
Windsor Racecourse
Winkburn Park
Winkbury, Henley in Arden
Winkleigh
Winmarleigh Hall
Wintershall
Witton Castle
Wolteron
Wolverhampton Racecourse
Wramplingham Hall, Norfolk
Wyle
Aldon
Amersham
Arley hall
Ashby Puerorum, Lincolnshire
Aston Park
Aswanley
Authinleck
Barthorpe, Yorks
Bath & West
Beamish
Beckwithshaw
Belmont Park
Belton
Berrington Hall, Worcs.
Bickenhall, Rolleston
Billesdon
Borough Court
Brand Hall
Brechin
Brendon Hills
Bretton, Yorkshire
Brightling
Brigstock
Brockenhurst
Brockwood Park
Brooksby Melton college
Brougham
Bucklebury near reading
Burnham Beeches
Carlisle
Carlton
Chagford
Charlton Park
Charterhall, Berwickshire
Chelsworth Park near Hadleigh suffolk
Cheltenham
Cleobury Mortimer, Worcs
Clumber Park
Cockley Cley
Colliemore
Copt Oak
Cromer
Culzean Castle
Cumwhinton
Dalston Green
Denbigh
Dodington
Downlands
Draycott House
Drumclog
Duchy College
Dunsfold in Surrey
Dunsfold Ryse
Dynes Hall
Ebbesbourne Wake
Eden valley
Eglinton
Eridge
Ermington
Everdon, Northampton
Floors Castle
Forest Mere
Frensham liphook
Glanusk Estate
Glasgow Stud, Enfield
Gleneagles
Glenluse
Goodwood
Graveley
Great Missenden
Great Tew
Grimston park
Hambleden
Hatherleigh
Henbury Hall, Cheshire
Henderside
Hexham
Highclere Castle
Hogshaw
Holdenby Hall
Holker Hall Cumbria
Hopetoun
Hough Hall in Wilmslow, Cheshire
Houghall
Houston
Hutton in the Forrest
Ickworth Park near Bury St Edmunds
Iping
Ivesley
Jervaulx
Killerton
Kilmington
Kirkley Hall
Knaptoft
Labley House
Lackham
Lambley House
Lanhydrock
Llanfechan
Llanover
Locko Park
Longleat
Lowsby
Lulworth Castle
Lymington
Malpas, Cheshire
Marchington, Tutbury
Markyate
Mattingley
Meriden
Mill Hill
Milton Keynes
Montacute
Moulton College
Mount Ballan
Northampton
Nurstead court
Nutwell Court
Oatridge
Okehampton (Grange)
Orchard Portman
Osmaston
Oulton Park
Oving
Parkgate, Wirral
Pebworth and Batsford
Pembrey and Pencoed
Penton
Pepper Harrow in Surrey
Petworth
Powderham Castle
Prestwold Hall
Pulborough
Pwoderham Castle
Ragley Hall
Rockcliffe
Rodbaston, Staffordshire
Rolleston
Rotherfield
Ruffled Park
Rushall
Russel Farm Wendover
Sadborow (Wessex Taunton)
Salperton
Sansaw
Sapperton
Savernack
Savernake Forest
Scone Palace
Scotsburn
Scunthorpe
Shamley Green
Shilpton Moyne
Shipley Park, Locko Park
Shipton Moyne
Shropshire and Malpas
Shuttleworrh
Somerley park
Somerlyton
Southwell Racecourse
Spire Park
Bath and West
Spring Hill
Stamford Rivers
Stilemans
Stockland Lovell
Ston Easton
Stonar
Stoneleigh Park
Storeton Hall, Wirral
Strathallan
Stubley Court
Swerford
Syde Park
Tedworth house
Tetton Hall
Thirlestane
Thorton Le Dale
Thorton Watlass
Tidworth
Titlington
Trefnant
Tregembo
Turbury
Turnberry
Tutbury
Tyrhrop Park
Urchinwood Manor
W Aldridge Manor, Rickmansworth
Wakefield
Waldridge
Wellesbourne
Whitfield
Wilton
Wiltshire College
Windmill Hill, Stratford upon Avon,
Windsor Park
Windsor Racecourse
Winkburn Park
Winkbury, Henley in Arden
Winkleigh
Winmarleigh Hall
Wintershall
Witton Castle
Wolteron
Wolverhampton Racecourse
Wramplingham Hall, Norfolk
Wyle
I'm Dun
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Delapre Park/Abbey used to run in the parkland of the house. Some of the jumps are still there. Last ran in the early 2000s I think.
AML
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Kings Sombourne
Tilton on the hill (?)
Tilton on the hill (?)
Gamebird
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I drove past Witton and Hexham sites the other day - both fantastic old-fashioned tracks. The sort that you should be jumping round if you wanted to move up or tackle a 3 day.
There was also a one-off BE at Southwell Racecourse.
There was also a one-off BE at Southwell Racecourse.
RachelFerd
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Cheltenham racecourse also did a few, with terrible rock hard ground.
I'm collating a spreadsheet now - up to about 140 lost events since the mid 80s. I think on average we lose 3 or 4 every year. Most events seem to have a relatively short shelf life. Difference is that in the past there wasn't any social media discussion of it - but clearly creating sustainable events has been a problem for a loooooong time
Gamebird
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There's a trakehner still in the centre of the AW gallop at cheltenham racecourse, which I often perch on whilst grazing horses after riding out in the mornings before racing. I assume that must be ex-BE.
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LEC
Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
Talking of racecourses - Taunton and Chepstow need to go on list. Monmouth is another.
Blackdown Hills.
Blackdown Hills.
RachelFerd
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I'm up to 241 in total now! Just need to check some aren't duplicates...
Mrs Pink
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Can add Lyme Park, Claughton, Osbaldeston, Standish & Rudding Park to the list too
Ambers Echo
Still wittering on
Lyme Park must have been amazing! That's only 20 minutes from me and it's gorgeous there.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
It was cancelled the first year I entered and never ran again. I could almost have hacked there.
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The Fuzzy Furry
Getting old disgracefully
Ardingly, we used to go there last century.
teapot
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As in South of England? The spring and autumn events still run
spacefaer
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Hopton Court nr Cleobury Mortimer
The Fuzzy Furry
Getting old disgracefully
That's brilliant, I've been off the circuit for a good number of yrs, tho still pop to Tweseldown to help out.
Always started the season off with Stilemans
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
It was
. I groomed for someone competing there.Chuffy99
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Add Stratford Hills
BMA2
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Delapre, Northampton. Think that went circa 2005
Castle Ashby, Northampton. But only ran a couple of years in the 1980s
Castle Ashby, Northampton. But only ran a couple of years in the 1980s
RachelFerd
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Cross referenced a few lists and went through some old eventing profiles - here's a list of 260 events that definitely used to run and are no longer running. The oldest events in here cancelled in 1981 - so that's an average of 6 events lost per year. Big amount of losses around 1999/2000 which makes sense given the issues the sport was having with rider deaths around that period.
| Aldon |
| Althorp Park |
| Amersham |
| Arley Hall |
| Armathwaite Hall |
| Ashby Puerorum |
| Aske |
| Aston Park |
| Aswanley |
| Auchinleck |
| Barbury Castle |
| Barthorpe |
| Bath and West |
| Beamish |
| Beckwithshaw (Harrogate) |
| Belmont (Mill Hill) |
| Belmont Park |
| Belton Park (1983) |
| Berriewood |
| Berrington Hall |
| Bickenhall |
| Billesdon |
| Bold Heath |
| Borough Court |
| Bourton / Bourton-on-Dunsmore |
| Brand Hall |
| Brechin Castle |
| Brendon Hills |
| Bretton Park |
| Bricky |
| Brigstock |
| Brockenhurst |
| Brockwood Park |
| Brooksby Melton College |
| Brougham |
| Bucklebury (1983) |
| Burgie |
| Burnham Beeches |
| Carlisle |
| Carlton |
| Castle Ashby |
| Castle Howard |
| Castletown |
| Charlton Park |
| Charterhall |
| Chelsworth Park |
| Cheltenham |
| Cholmondeley Castle |
| Clandon Park |
| Cleobury Mortimer |
| Clumber Park (1983) |
| Congleton |
| Coillemore |
| Copt Oak |
| Crews Hill |
| Crockstead |
| Crookham |
| Croxton Park |
| Culzean |
| Cumwhinton |
| Dalston Green |
| Denbigh |
| Dodington |
| Dolphinton |
| Downlands |
| Downton Castle |
| Draycott House |
| Drumclog |
| Duchy College |
| Dunsfold Ryse |
| Dynes Hall |
| Ebbesbourne Wake |
| Eden Valley |
| Eglinton |
| Ellon |
| Eridge |
| Ermington |
| Everdon |
| Floors Castle |
| Frensham |
| Frome |
| Glanusk |
| Gleneagles |
| Glenluce |
| Goodwood |
| Gotham |
| Graveley |
| Great Missenden |
| Great Tew |
| Great Witchingham |
| Great Yorkshire |
| Grimston Park |
| Grimshaw Hall |
| Hagley Hall |
| Hambleden |
| Hampton on the Hill |
| Harlton |
| Hatherleigh |
| Heckfield |
| Henbury Hall |
| Hendersyde Park |
| Hexham |
| Highclere Castle |
| Hogshaw |
| Holdenby |
| Holker Hall |
| Hopetoun House |
| Hopton Court |
| Houghall |
| Houghton Hall |
| Houston House |
| Hunwick |
| Hutton in the Forest |
| Ickworth |
| Inveraray Castle |
| Iping |
| Isleham |
| Ivesley |
| Jervaulx |
| Keysoe |
| Killerton |
| Kilmington |
| Kincardine O'Neil |
| Kings Somborne |
| Kirkley Hall |
| Knaptoft |
| Knowlton |
| Lackham (Wiltshire College) |
| Lambley House |
| Lanhydrock |
| Laughton Manor |
| Llanfechain |
| Llanover |
| Lockerbie |
| Locko Park (1983) |
| Longleat |
| Lowesby |
| Lulworth Castle |
| Lyme Park |
| Lymington |
| Lytham Hall |
| Malpas |
| Marchington |
| Markyate (1983) |
| Mattingley |
| Milton Keynes |
| Molland |
| Montacute |
| Mortonhall |
| Moulton |
| Mount Ballan |
| Northampton |
| Nurstead Court |
| Nutwell Court |
| Oatridge |
| Okehampton (Grange) |
| Orchard Portman |
| Osbaldeston Hall |
| Osmaston |
| Oulton Park |
| Oving |
| Parkgate |
| Pebworth Vale |
| Pembrey Park |
| Pencoed |
| Penton |
| Penzance (Tregembo) |
| Peper Harrow |
| Petworth |
| Pontispool |
| Powderham Castle |
| Prestwold Hall |
| Pulborough |
| Purston Manor |
| Rackham |
| Ragley Hall |
| Ripley Castle |
| Rockingham |
| Rodbaston |
| Rolleston |
| Rotherfield Park |
| Royal Deeside |
| Rudding Park |
| Rufford Park |
| Rushall |
| Sadborow (Wessex Taunton) |
| Salperton |
| Sandringham |
| Sansaw Park |
| Savernake |
| Scone Palace (Central Scotland) |
| Scotsburn |
| Scunthorpe |
| Shamley Green |
| Shelswell |
| Sherborne Castle |
| Shipley Park |
| Shipton Moyne |
| Shuttleworth |
| Smiths Lawn |
| Somerley Park |
| Somerleyton |
| Southwell Racecourse |
| Spire Park |
| Spring Hill |
| Stafford |
| Standish |
| St Andrews |
| Stanford Rivers |
| Stilemans |
| Stockland Lovell |
| Ston Easton |
| Stonar School |
| Storeton Hall |
| Stowe |
| Stowell Park |
| Stratford Hills |
| Strathallan Castle |
| Swaffham |
| Swerford |
| Syde Park |
| Taunton |
| Taunton Vale |
| Tetbury |
| Tetton Hall |
| Thirlestane Castle |
| Thornton Le Dale |
| Thornton Watlass |
| Tidworth |
| Titlington |
| Trefnant |
| Tutbury |
| Tythrop |
| Urchinwood |
| Waldridge Manor |
| Wellesbourne |
| Wellow Park |
| Wendover |
| Weston Park |
| Whitfield |
| Wilmslow (Hough Hall) |
| Wilton |
| Windsor |
| Windsor Racecourse |
| Winkburn Park |
| Winkleigh |
| Winmarleigh Hall |
| Wintershall |
| Withcote Hall |
| Withington Manor |
| Withybrook |
| Witton Castle |
| Wokingham |
| Wolterton Park |
| Wolverhampton |
| Wolverhampton Racecourse |
| Wramplingham |
| Wylye |
| Wynyard |
| York |
Mrs Pink
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It was pretty amazing
Remembered another
Ripley Castle, always remember that for a horse swimming in the lake after someone fell off, not me lol
TheMule
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Wow… great effort to find all that, well done!
RachelFerd
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spreadsheets and internet scouring are some of my favourite sad hobbies
but i do think we need perspective in amongst all the cancellations stuff - there's a degree of recency bias and social media amplification with people behaving like a stately home event has never cancelled before - when history says they've been cancelling constantly since the early 80s. Doesn't change the fact that our sport seems to be shifting into one which is losing it's unique venues and being based more around permanent equestrian centres of course. Also kind of points towards this fundamentally being a money-losing operation for nearly all venues, despite the high cost of participation - how does the sport structure itself correctly to support the types of venues which we really need??
LEC
Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
I still think there needs to be a £10 tax on standalone events per entry. I would pay that if it makes the difference between being profitable and not. Anything which runs unaff or multi events would be discounted from the scheme.
RachelFerd
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I guess the problem here is that whilst some events (lets say Chatsworth or Cornbury for example) would definitely still get mega entries for their one-off events, for others it would probably kill their entry levels even more. The question for me is - how do you extract the presumably decent profits from running Aston and put them back into running a Scottish event that runs as a one-off and struggles for entries? Can you tax events that run unaff 'under BE rules' a modicum amount per entry in order to fund the peripheral events? Or can you raise the entry fees on the events that get ballot level entries and use that to create a fund for peripheral and one-off events?
It's the events in the furthest reaches of the SW, East Anglia, Wales and Welsh borders (next to none) and Scotland that really need some kind of extra support - and also exponentially improve the sport's inclusivity because it allows people who can't travel for 4+ hours to get to their nearest event to take part.
Of course Aston really wins on location because, as I have found out, no matter where I live, I'm always 2.5 hours from Aston (from S Glos, Surrey, Newmarket and N Cheshire - Aston is the centre of the universe)
Mimsyborogrove
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Borde hill in Sussex too a lovely estate
teapot
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Just bumping this as I see Pippa Funnell's now a non-executive board member for BE.
Good to see a pro bothering to properly get involved.
Good to see a pro bothering to properly get involved.
Caski
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Another in SE, Knowlton (family home of William Fox-Pitt), near Canterbury.