Tabula Rasa
Well-Known Member
Just finished my 2nd glass of wine
BUT! Got the grapes out instead of chocolate,
So if you think about it I'm super healthy with fresh grapes and liquid grapes
So, which one of you lot is the one-in-twenty?
- Thread starter wiltshireguy
- Start date
Just finished my 2nd glass of wine
BUT! Got the grapes out instead of chocolate,
So if you think about it I'm super healthy with fresh grapes and liquid grapes
wiltshireguy
Well-Known Member
amandaco2
Well-Known Member
Well my 17.2 tapes at 480kg..... But I certainly am not too heavy for him!!
Littlelegs
Well-Known Member
When my mare was in full work & mega fit, she was 500- 515kg (full up 14.2 connie x tb). And I was mega thin pre pregnancy & around 8stone, so I would have been in the 10%. At the moment, without a weighbridge I'm guessing she's about 460-480, & I'm 9stone in full winter riding kit, so apparently too heavy.
Amusingly, I suspect my daughter is also heading over the 10% mark. She's 8, tall & twig like, & a year or so ago weighed 4 stone. I suspect she is now perhaps 4/5lb over that as she's grown in height, although seemingly not in width. Which means she is just above the 25kg her fine boned 11.1 should carry. Admittedly the fine boned aspect means I wouldn't want more than 6&1/2 stone on the pony, but I think it will be almost impossible to find another jockey for a whizzy second pony that is under 4stone in full riding gear.
Amusingly, I suspect my daughter is also heading over the 10% mark. She's 8, tall & twig like, & a year or so ago weighed 4 stone. I suspect she is now perhaps 4/5lb over that as she's grown in height, although seemingly not in width. Which means she is just above the 25kg her fine boned 11.1 should carry. Admittedly the fine boned aspect means I wouldn't want more than 6&1/2 stone on the pony, but I think it will be almost impossible to find another jockey for a whizzy second pony that is under 4stone in full riding gear.
Littlelegs
Well-Known Member
When my mare was in full work & mega fit, she was 500- 515kg (full up 14.2 connie x tb). And I was mega thin pre pregnancy & around 8stone, so I would have been in the 10%. At the moment, without a weighbridge I'm guessing she's about 460-480, & I'm 9stone in full winter riding kit, so apparently too heavy.
Amusingly, I suspect my daughter is also heading over the 10% mark. She's 8, tall & twig like, & a year or so ago weighed 4 stone. I suspect she is now perhaps 4/5lb over that as she's grown in height, although seemingly not in width. Which means she is just above the 20kg her fine boned 11.1 should carry. Admittedly the fine boned aspect means I wouldn't want more than 6&1/2 stone on the pony, but I think it will be almost impossible to find another jockey for a whizzy second pony that is under 4stone in full riding gear.
Amusingly, I suspect my daughter is also heading over the 10% mark. She's 8, tall & twig like, & a year or so ago weighed 4 stone. I suspect she is now perhaps 4/5lb over that as she's grown in height, although seemingly not in width. Which means she is just above the 20kg her fine boned 11.1 should carry. Admittedly the fine boned aspect means I wouldn't want more than 6&1/2 stone on the pony, but I think it will be almost impossible to find another jockey for a whizzy second pony that is under 4stone in full riding gear.
Littlelegs
Well-Known Member
Stupid phone. And a correction, apparently my daughters pony should have a rider of approx 3 stone.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
That's likely to happen any time soon then
What wasn't explained in the article was how the 10% figure was reached as the optimum, now it may have been in the journal article, but it doesn't sound like it was Moomin1
Well-Known Member
twobearsarthur
Well-Known Member
My BMI would be less than 14 if I weighed what I should to ride mine which would have me at nearly 6ft weighing 7 stones!!! I would also be eligible to be sectioned under the Mental Health Act!!! For having an eating disorder. She's a 16hh WBxID
rara007
Well-Known Member
Well my 17hh weigh tapes 526 KG so I'm over 10kg too big for him, let alone my 375 and 325 ponies...
I don't think I know many people under 10%! Jump jockeys must be over that?
I don't think I know many people under 10%! Jump jockeys must be over that?
littlemisslauren
Well-Known Member
Some of the weights on this thread have concerned me (Horse not human - I'm a right fatty at the min)
Weigh tapes are tosh for telling you what your horse actually weighs. They can be a good tool to measure changes in shape but not weight.
I strongly recommend those who rely on weigh tapes to get your horses to a weigh bridge and see what they actually weigh. You will be suprised.
Unless we all know the TRUE weight of our horses then this agument is surely void?
Weigh tapes are tosh for telling you what your horse actually weighs. They can be a good tool to measure changes in shape but not weight.
I strongly recommend those who rely on weigh tapes to get your horses to a weigh bridge and see what they actually weigh. You will be suprised.
Unless we all know the TRUE weight of our horses then this agument is surely void?
dafthoss
Well-Known Member
Well as the paper relies on weight tape measurements which are notoriously inaccurate and she is unable to give any reference for where she got the magical 10% from I'll leave her to it thanks. Yes I did read it but no I didn't pay for it (but it provided a bit more distraction from the work I'm supposed to be writing)
As it is I'm 11% on YP from his actual weight on a weigh bridge and we are both very happy with the arrangement. I also squish smaller ponies who don't see bothered by carrying me.
(but it provided a bit more distraction from the work I'm supposed to be writing) As it is I'm 11% on YP from his actual weight on a weigh bridge and we are both very happy with the arrangement. I also squish smaller ponies who don't see bothered by carrying me.
TrasaM
Well-Known Member
17.2 at 480kg?!
Yes, seems a bit low. I ride a 17hh IDx and she's quite slim and not very fit at the moment and weighs 620kg. We are really lucky to have a local vets we can walk to and get weighted.
The 14.2hh cob is 528 and could carry a bit more weight too.
Moomin1
Well-Known Member
My 16.3hh is 670kg warmblood type
SNORKEY
Well-Known Member
My 15.3hh should only be carrying 8 stone! I better state that in his advert when I sell him then! And good luck any 8 stone person controlling him! Lol
amandaco2
Well-Known Member
Yep that's what the tape says.he's usually 540ish but has lost weight over winter.he's not a rescue case or 'poor'
amandaco2
Well-Known Member
He's a sport horse dressage horse so not anything chunky either....
Jesstickle
Well-Known Member
Well as the paper relies on weight tape measurements which are notoriously inaccurate and she is unable to give any reference for where she got the magical 10% from I'll leave her to it thanks. Yes I did read it but no I didn't pay for it
As it is I'm 11% on YP from his actual weight on a weigh bridge and we are both very happy with the arrangement. I also squish smaller ponies who don't see bothered by carrying me.
She used a weigh tape?! Brilliant. and that is why you need to read the actual paper before you pass comment because clearly her methods are so fundamentally flawed that any conclusion is voided.
Thanks for actually bothering to read it
*hic*
village idiot :D
She used a weigh tape?! Brilliant. and that is why you need to read the actual paper before you pass comment because clearly her methods are so fundamentally flawed that any conclusion is voided.
Thanks for actually bothering to read it
PMSL, where is the like button for you two?
YasandCrystal
Well-Known Member
There was an article (the same one?) in the Sunday Telegraph and I don't think that referred to research either. As bad as each other newspapers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ng-the-strain-of-Britains-obesity-crisis.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ng-the-strain-of-Britains-obesity-crisis.html
Jesstickle
Well-Known Member
There was an article (the same one?) in the Sunday Telegraph and I don't think that referred to research either. As bad as each other newspapers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ng-the-strain-of-Britains-obesity-crisis.html
Absolutely the are Y&C. I am not getting at the Mail in particular. I hate the misrepresentation of science that ALL our papers seem to go in for in this country.
Why on Earth can't someone who actually understands science review these things for the papers?!
And seriously, WTF is an 'equitation scientist'?! How can anyone actually describe themselves as such a thing. Bizarre and alarming that we think that is the kind of scientist this country needs. I sincerely hope no bright young minds are siphoned away from research to do this kind of guff!
Last edited:
YasandCrystal
Well-Known Member
I agree. The papers report such inaccuracies and most of the news is just blatant propoganda. It's easy to get sucked into the rubbish that is printed. I stopped getting a daily paper years ago due to the negativity and bias in them. So much information is ommited in the science articles that it is just a nonsense and the journalist may just as well make up the lot. I just buy the local evening paper now.
Jo1980
Well-Known Member
I'm 63KGs.
My horse is a 16.1 MW warmblood (with a long back - rug size: 6ft9). How much would she weigh?
My horse is a 16.1 MW warmblood (with a long back - rug size: 6ft9). How much would she weigh?
Jesstickle
Well-Known Member
I think, I hope, that things like Twitter will really help with this kind of thing. It is great that people who actually know how to interpret this stuff now have a forum to spread knowledge through. The papers are a disaster for an accurate and fair portrayal of research but being able to discuss it back and forth via the internet is a great thing. I know the BBC have started including links to the original papers now when they report an article which is a really positive step. Of course, much of it is still behind a blinking pay wall which clearly needs sorting by the scientific community themselves. I just do not understand why the papers assume their readers are too stupid or too lazy to want to check they are telling the truth!
Last edited:
BBP
Well-Known Member
Hands up all you super confident, competent 5.6stone/36kg HHO who would like to take on my bouncy bonkers 14hh pony. He's quite light at 360kg on the weightape, so at 54kgs I think I'll need to ditch a couple of limbs to fit him if no-one else volunteers?
Angua2
Well-Known Member
Oh dear another guilty one
TrasaM
Well-Known Member
It would be really interesting to know what some of the horses, whose weight has been estimated using a tape, actually weighed.
Really think some of us will have to resort to riding saddle less and naked to comply with the 10% rule
Really think some of us will have to resort to riding saddle less and naked to comply with the 10% rule
Jesstickle
Well-Known Member
It would be really interesting to know what some of the horses, whose weight has been estimated using a tape, actually weighed.
Really think some of us will have to resort to riding saddle less and naked to comply with the 10% rule
Even then you probably won't make it! I know I wouldn't. I have never ( in adult life) and could never, weigh 45KG. Not even naked!
The study actually concludes ''the suggested 10% guideline appears unrealistic within the general riding population''
but you would never guess that from the article in the Fail!
ShadowFlame
Well-Known Member
10%?
So my 14.3hh cob with 10" of bone, who's optimum weight is about 440kg, can only carry a 7st rider?
Wow... maybe I need to feed him up so I'm within his weight carrying abilities?
So my 14.3hh cob with 10" of bone, who's optimum weight is about 440kg, can only carry a 7st rider?
Wow... maybe I need to feed him up so I'm within his weight carrying abilities?
Coldfeet!
Well-Known Member
Not again.
Must be all that clotted cream, fudge and pasties in Devon and Cornwall.
Ive seem some proper FB men out hunting here and there on friends facebook photo's. The horses dont seem to mind one bit that their riders are on the plump side with moobs and a paunch.
anyway - guilty.
Must be all that clotted cream, fudge and pasties in Devon and Cornwall.
Ive seem some proper FB men out hunting here and there on friends facebook photo's. The horses dont seem to mind one bit that their riders are on the plump side with moobs and a paunch.
anyway - guilty.