sorry! had to share my puppies with you!

Are you going to crouch in a corner with your hair over your face sticking safety pins into your arm? Looking like that bint out of the Grudge? Can I watch?

I will probably do that. But I would never cheapen such an emotional experience by allowing people to watch for their own dark reasons. It is all about me at the end of the day, ffs!

I will however post it on youtube. It will be entitled 'OMG I r So Full of TrAuma!' Only comments that can relate to the trauma are allowed. Anything I don't like, I delete. If people are mean, comments get banned!
 
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Yes, I know, resorting to meme-abuse is pretty dreadful.
 
Même = self? Or meme= viral? Je ne sais plus rien. Je suis bourée.

I cannot express how thrilled I am to have discovered how to do accents on the iPad!
 
Même = self? Or meme= viral? Je ne sais plus rien. Je suis bourée.

I cannot express how thrilled I am to have discovered how to do accents on the iPad!

I'm all a-rofl :D I actually don't know exactly why the general internet 'memes' chose meme, but always assumed it was meme=viral (a la Dawkins). After all, internet memes are exactly that, silly 'themes' and images that go viral across the net, only to be abused by the unimaginative such as myself! :D
 
I LOL'd at him. He pretty funny!

LOL'd at Y U no meme man, or Dawkins?

I'm going to admit something dreadful here.... I have an interest in evolutionary psychology. I have yet to pick up and read The Selfish Gene :o I comfort myself with the fact that it has never actually come up in academic conversation. It's kinda more a pop psyche book. One that I should read, but that I can dodge for now. Far more likely that you will discuss relevant papers or the latest Buss publication/money spinner (can you tell I was a little bitter at paying £35 for a B&W, printed on toilet paper, 'comparative pysche for dummies across the pond' text? :p)

I will get around to reading it someday soon.

(Disclaimer! I think Buss has done some great research, and penned some great discursive articles. I'm not overly keen on his publisher right now. £35 for badly printed tissue paper? I should have stuck with Will Reader as an introductory text. :( I also listen to Dawkins. Don't always agree, but I listen. And should really at least read one of his texts all the way through :rolleyes:)
 
:eek: That just gave me a horrible flashback to the hours of boredom that were my 2nd year university genetics lectures....

As it happens despite sleeping through most of the aforementioned lectures I actually have a pretty good grasp of genetics and was more than happy to take one of Puppy's awful crossbreeds off her hands :D and I think he is the best puppy in the World. I can't imagine life without my little dimwit and I really couldn't have asked for a better dog.

Pretty much everyone can think of terrible examples of both purebred dogs and crossbreeds, as long as a dog is happy and healthy what does it matter how it was bred?

I think people have misinterpreted. I am arguing that a pedigree is really a mongrel too. I have a smelly old rescue lurcher of unknown descent. I was trying to say that everyone bashing op for her crossbreeds on the grounds of genetics was misguided is all! I hate to see such an abuse of science is all.
 
Is the genetics stuff aimed at me? I'm sorry! My humblest apologies to the geneticists in the room :D In my special drunken way I was trying to make the point that phenotype does not equal genotype, and that there is more to heritability than 'what you see is what you get'.

It probably made absolutely no sense. I've thought about it for a couple of minutes, and decided that I'm OK with not making sense. :)

I don't think I aimed it at anyone especially. And fwiw I am only a molecular biologist and haven't done genetics since uni apart from to dabble in thinfs I find interesting. It just seemed to me people had a funny idea of how pedigree dogs were made in the first place so I thoUght I'd ask. Even pedigree dogs can give you a bit of a throw back after all, in the same way people occasionally throw a ginger kid even though no living relatives on either side are ginger!

Given that you quite obviously know that it can't have been aimed at you in fact :p
 
How do I edit a post on my poxy ipad I can't scroll through it!

I wanted to say that I read the selfish gene And the blind watch maker and Darwin said it better and was less annoying. Dawkins irritates me a bit. I know that is probably bad thogh so I apologise :(
 
I don't think I aimed it at anyone especially. And fwiw I am only a molecular biologist and haven't done genetics since uni apart from to dabble in thinfs I find interesting. It just seemed to me people had a funny idea of how pedigree dogs were made in the first place so I thoUght I'd ask. Even pedigree dogs can give you a bit of a throw back after all, in the same way people occasionally throw a ginger kid even though no living relatives on either side are ginger!

Given that you quite obviously know that it can't have been aimed at you in fact :p

I think the random ginger one is proved to be the milkmans, I thought everyone knew that.
 
I couldn't be bothered to read all of this thread but I think they are lovely looking puppies, they have gorgeous colour coats. I don't know much about dog breeding but I have a fantastic working cross bred (springer/lab with some pointer thrown back!) who I got for £50. She is always commented on wherever we go and would definatly go for another cross in th future.
 
There is just nothing worse than an unexpected ginger. :(



jesstickle, I'm now imagining a Pokemon style fight between Dawkins and Darwin. Thanks for that. I think... :confused::p


(Darwin wins).
 
Firstly I thought docking was illegal in this country.
Secondly it's all very well saying that if you want a kitty you should go to a rescue, but there are plenty of breed reaches as well so surely no pups - pure or x bred should be bred until all dogs are homes. Also (and I know there are several threads on the subject) it is bloody hard to get a dog out of a rescue - I know I've tried. So the whole "just go to a rescue centre" isn't so black and white. I was turned down because I don't have a garden - I live on a farm and have a medium sized, fully enclosed indoor school instead, but because I'd have to walk the dog to the school it wasn't good enough.

Lastly OP gorgeous puppies, well done to you and mum.
 
I can't believe how rude people have been got to about the tenth page and gave up, whilst I agree with some views expresses it's the manner it is expressed.

I have two rescue dogs myself one being a lab x staff possibly and the other a full lab! Dogs can end up in rescue whether they are cross bred or not, it is who owns them not their bred. I am happy that if OP knows all the new owners and also said she will have them back, I can't see what the problem is!

Although I don't post often I have been lurking and observing for many years, it is not pleasant how some people are attacked.

Sorry for being longwinded x
 
Yep I agree some/inc me where a bit harsh, I usually ignore the back street breeding/un necessary breeding posts, I guess I saw redder than usual with the other BSB post re the west x j.r.t and like I mentioned the 2 where not the same, but still IMO un necessary bredding like the post in SB re the spaniels, which was also rather commical when the truth was told about how the litter came about, they are pedigree and still un necessary/ill thought out and irrisponsible.
Still Im not getting the whole "if they know the people and they have good homes" well Im sure the majority of folk breeding this way and dishing them out also said the same thing and im sure some went to family and friends;) and yet still we are in crisis with regard to discarded dogs or dogs being passed from pillar to post, things change, circumstance change, PUPPIES change, and don't look so cute anymore and start becoming a problem (well really just a normal dog):rolleyes:, they are then discarded of. You would not believe the family disputes we deal with when rescue are handed in and im sure this all began with great intention too.
I also agree it's very responsible to offer back up, but this does not always pan out either, circumstance changes (something we deal with alot in rescue) we have contacted many a breeder who said they would offer back up, yet plainly refused to take the dog we had of theirs, be it circumstance changed or believe it or not, they had another litter in the home and could not possibly house another dog.
I also agree with you that "it's people/ignorance" to blame for the discarding of dogs, but please don't say it's nothing to do with those putting them on this earth in the 1st place to be put in the position, and lest not forget the amount of puppies that will come from these puppies, and the list goes on.
Most puppies have/get homes, a huge amount never remain there.

I get that I have a strong opinion, I have rescue dogs I have X breeds, my life is revolved around rejected dog/cats and puppies, even rabbits;) I see the whole picture not just the pretty/cute one.
I agree once more some comments where harsh and un necessary like the breeding it's self.
 
Yep I agree some/inc me where a bit harsh, I usually ignore the back street breeding/un necessary breeding posts, I guess I saw redder than usual with the other BSB post re the west x j.r.t and like I mentioned the 2 where not the same, but still IMO un necessary bredding like the post in SB re the spaniels, which was also rather commical when the truth was told about how the litter came about, they are pedigree and still un necessary/ill thought out and irrisponsible.
Still Im not getting the whole "if they know the people and they have good homes" well Im sure the majority of folk breeding this way and dishing them out also said the same thing and im sure some went to family and friends;) and yet still we are in crisis with regard to discarded dogs or dogs being passed from pillar to post, things change, circumstance change, PUPPIES change, and don't look so cute anymore and start becoming a problem (well really just a normal dog):rolleyes:, they are then discarded of. You would not believe the family disputes we deal with when rescue are handed in and im sure this all began with great intention too.
I also agree it's very responsible to offer back up, but this does not always pan out either, circumstance changes (something we deal with alot in rescue) we have contacted many a breeder who said they would offer back up, yet plainly refused to take the dog we had of theirs, be it circumstance changed or believe it or not, they had another litter in the home and could not possibly house another dog.
I also agree with you that "it's people/ignorance" to blame for the discarding of dogs, but please don't say it's nothing to do with those putting them on this earth in the 1st place to be put in the position, and lest not forget the amount of puppies that will come from these puppies, and the list goes on.
Most puppies have/get homes, a huge amount never remain there.

I get that I have a strong opinion, I have rescue dogs I have X breeds, my life is revolved around rejected dog/cats and puppies, even rabbits;) I see the whole picture not just the pretty/cute one.
I agree once more some comments where harsh and un necessary like the breeding it's self.

Agree totally Cayla, nicely put.
I too try to help several rescue sites and charities, I have 3 rescue dogs myself, all different yet desperately needed homes because they were bred and abandoned. The puppies in question in this thread may have homes to go to but as Cayla has so rightly pointed out, what happens if any of those pups are then bred by the new owners for whatever reason and the pups they produce can and do end up in rescues?
So, it carrys on.
 
Fair enough CAYLA, I see where you are coming from. I usually avoid these sorts of threads but I was in a **** mood last night :o. I do still wonder that with all the purebred dogs in rescue as well whether any breeder should be breeding at the moment though.
My dog is a rescue (not from a centre) so it's something I believe in as well but i wonder if rescues are not helping themselves when they make it so difficult. Don't get me wrong I understand that they don't want a dog to go to another bad home, but still...
 
I can understand entirely where you are coming from cayla, you see the results of irresponsible breeding everyday and I understand exactly what you are saying.

I was just taking what OP is saying on face value, I know what is said and what is done is sometimes very different.

I understand why people have strong feelings about this but I just don't like the way people say it sometimes. That is not pointed at you cayla! Some people just jump on the bandwagon and relish the opportunity to put someone down. This is not in relation to this thread entirely but many I have seen.

As I said I can see entirely why you would see red at this is your situation just think some other may jump on the bandwagon and doubt they would say half the things if thy met people face to face! X
 
I cannot speak for anyone else. But yes it is very hard for me to take people at face value (esp in regard to breeding), I am cynical, it sometimes makes me a little sad, even by boss commented one day "for someone so young, you are so very cynical", am not that young imo she is just old:D I interpret what she said that as "realistic" but it still makes me sad I feel this way sometimes but that is me:p
I cannot speak for anyone on the whole "face to face" issue but I can say, I say whats on my mind weather it be to someone face or here and anyone who knows me would agree (not something im always proud of) but it's me:o

I just want people to see the whole picture not just the pretty one, because seeing a dog discarded and so messed up it does not know weather it's coming or going is a sight that will always make you angry believe me. Even worse when they end up in a **** hole of a pound and life is suddenly cold noisy/fearful all contained within 4 walls.
 
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Cayla believe me i know, not quite the same but i used to work with dogs seized by the police, yes some were dangerous thanks to bloody chavs looking for status dogs but mist purely
 
I hate this bloody phone!

The end of that post should be "but most because of what they looked like. Long term kennelling is no life for any dog :(
 
Okay putting my neck on the chopping block here. As many of you know I am planning on breeding from Evie in the spring, I also have spent many hours helping a GSD Rescue, so can see things from both sides, and thought long and hard about whether or not to hopefully have a litter.
What has convinced me is how many people I consider lovely homes that are turned down by rescues. Yes in an ideal world everyone should have a rescue, but it just ain't going to happen.
I don't actually think I would pass a rescue home check as my dogs are sometimes left for more than 5 hours, and shock horror my property is not surrounded by a fence of 5' or more. Families with children under 5 are often turned down for a rescue dog, now I do appreciate that when a dogs history is unknown this is a wise approach, but some rescues won't consider whatever the circumstances. If people want a dog and rescues won't help them then they really have no option but to go to a breeder, and as long as they go to a decent breeder then I don't think they or the breeder should be vilified.
 
Nice puppies and you have homes and back up plans for them, no big issue imo.

On the subject of overbreedig what can we do? someone said earlier in the post that all breeding should stop until all the rescue centres are empty? I like this!! :D

A friend of a friend has put her staffy bitch in pup (to another friends staffy dog :rolleyes:) .... I tried to diplomatically drop into conversation the fact that our local dogs home has a seperate 20 kennel block purely for unwanted staffys but unfortunately said BYB was to thick to even understand it was a hint/dig at her :p:rolleyes::eek::confused:
 
If i was in the same position as you, I am sure i would feel exactly the same!

As for being cynical i am also in that club i take crisis loans applications for a living and get lied to everyday so in those situations i am very cynical and dont believe a word people are saying half the time ha. I like what you said about her being old made me laugh out loud kind of thing i would say.

Yeah pretty puppies, my friend recently got a springer cross lab (i know i know - or should i call it a springerdor) it is so tiny and skinny and full of worms and she paid £300 for the pleasure. She got nothing with the puppy no puppy pack or food he was eating nothing, it is a big issue with back street breeding.

As for more staffie puppies god help us
 
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