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[Jeni the dragon]

The whole EK thing puts my teeth on edge. Having seen her at a few events I can't get my head around her mind set.
At Blair the other year she spent nearly an hour at one fence, lording it up to the crowds and with a TV crew. Unfortunately she then fell off there.

Going back to the original post, funnily enough my sister had just mentioned it. Don't think ill be putting my hand in my pocket.

 

[ester]

It did seem that the girl involved hadn't asked herself but that the other people on the yard had started it. Given what happened yesterday I bet she wished they hadn't.

 

[Chinchilla]

I was shocked at a recent one crowdfunding for vet bills on a dressage FB page because she was a student so couldnt afford it. If you have no contingency or back up funds for unexpected bills then you need to have insurance.

I'm pretty sure it was over £1000 when I saw it.

Some people have no shame (or morals, looking at famous eventers daughter ?)

Not sure 'being a student' is a reasonable excuse; FWIW my student bank account has unplanned overdraft of up to £1500 (some have more). In an emergency you'd surely use that, or insurance, rather than having to rely on people being naive enough to put their hands in their pockets for you.

 

[milliepops]

I was shocked at a recent one crowdfunding for vet bills on a dressage FB page because she was a student so couldnt afford it. If you have no contingency or back up funds for unexpected bills then you need to have insurance.

I'm pretty sure it was over £1000 when I saw it.

Some people have no shame (or morals, looking at famous eventers daughter ?)

this one seemed a bit odd given the family has a presence in dressage training, and therefore I'd have expected support from the parents rather than randoms, she doesn't seem like a child that's been cut adrift or left to flounder by non-horsey parents.

i see the horse has made a good recovery

 

[TPO]

this one seemed a bit odd given the family has a presence in dressage training, and therefore I'd have expected support from the parents rather than randoms, she doesn't seem like a child that's been cut adrift or left to flounder by non-horsey parents.

i see the horse has made a good recovery

I did think that she appeared to be from an affluent family and had been afforded many opportunities so setting up her own crowdfunding seemed odd to me. I was surprised to see how many had donated ?

 

[Mary3050]

Can’t stand those kinds of post on Facebook drive me mad tbh genuine ones for charity’s happy to help .I saw a stud start a just giving page because they had an 8 month old didn’t insure it. People donated to vets bills said stud owner went and spent 6k on a new horse less than 2 months after .

Drives me mad when my horse got ill insured had 4k of savings for the horses as a just incase. Horse cost over 11k to get right ( including vets, extra Farriar, meds, rehab etc) 5k of insurance and 6k of my money and help from family . But then I found I had an illness and need to see a specialist in London urgently or be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. The NHS refused to send me as I didn’t have one of the symptoms but had all of the others . Parents went into savings/ pension pot to pay for my care cost over a year it cost us 9k for care still on going ! We would never have asked for anyone to donate any thing to help ! We sold loads of luxury’s to cover the cost !

 

[teddypops]

I did think that she appeared to be from an affluent family and had been afforded many opportunities so setting up her own crowdfunding seemed odd to me. I was surprised to see how many had donated ?

If it’s the one I’ve seen, her father set up a fund to get people to donate towards her uni fees. Not sure if anyone ever donated to that, I stopped following their page then!

 

[milliepops]

If it’s the one I’ve seen, her father set up a fund to get people to donate towards her uni fees. Not sure if anyone ever donated to that, I stopped following their page then!

????????

 

[stormox]

Its peoples choice if they donate or not though. If you dont want to donate scroll on by! I think a lot of donations come from friends and family......

 

[Gingerwitch]

It’s going nowhere fast and has fallen far to often for my liking.

https://www.britisheventing.com/abo...orse-profiles/LANGFORD-TAKE-THE-BISCUIT-97805

Sorry is there a mid type in the name ? Was it Langford take the p1 $$ lol

 

[scruffyponies]

I wonder if the people who think it's OK to ask for such frivolous things realise that people they are asking are sitting on second hand sofas, driving clapped out cars and doing their own rug repairs?

 

[Roxylola]

I wonder if the people who think it's OK to ask for such frivolous things realise that people they are asking are sitting on second hand sofas, driving clapped out cars and doing their own rug repairs?

Ive never done it but I do think theres no harm asking - it doesnt offend me but I dont give anything. I'd certainly fall in to the category of clapped out car, second hand sofa etc personally but I also take the view that if you dont ask you wont get. I dont really understand the outrage people feel about it, yes everyone has a sob story and yes the majority of us just struggle on alone but it's not like people are knocking on doors or in the high street shaking buckets.

 

[Annagain]

I have a bit of sympathy for the girl. Yes she was naïve buying unseen and unvetted. The horse had problems with its eyes but they weren't the reason it was PTS, it had colic, which was just bad luck really (I know it windsucked but plenty of windsuckers don't get colic). That doesn't mean I think anyone should be asking for money towards a new one though, sometimes, you're just unlucky and have to suck it up.

 

[milliepops]

Ive never done it but I do think theres no harm asking - it doesnt offend me but I dont give anything. I'd certainly fall in to the category of clapped out car, second hand sofa etc personally but I also take the view that if you dont ask you wont get. I dont really understand the outrage people feel about it, yes everyone has a sob story and yes the majority of us just struggle on alone but it's not like people are knocking on doors or in the high street shaking buckets.

personally, it grates because of the guilt factor from scrolling on by, especially when they've really laid it on thick, it feels a bit like walking past a chugger.

 

[rabatsa]

Ive never done it but I do think theres no harm asking - it doesnt offend me but I dont give anything. I'd certainly fall in to the category of clapped out car, second hand sofa etc personally but I also take the view that if you dont ask you wont get. I dont really understand the outrage people feel about it, yes everyone has a sob story and yes the majority of us just struggle on alone but it's not like people are knocking on doors or in the high street shaking buckets.

To me it is just preying on vulnerable people like the RSPCA adverts and little old ladies, who feel that they have to donate to every deserving cause.

 

[Gingerwitch]

personally, it grates because of the guilt factor from scrolling on by, especially when they've really laid it on thick, it feels a bit like walking past a chugger.

What's a chugger ??

 

[rabatsa]

Chugger = charity mugger

 

[Micropony]

[QUOTE="Kamikaze, post: 14455539, The best I saw was someone with bpd (like me, this is not a dig at bpd). She had big credit card bills due to lack of impulse control due to bpd and could everyone just pay off her debts.[/QUOTE]
See, I have a degree of sympathy for that. I have a friend with BPD, who had a case of sepsis that was initially misdiagnosed as depression (yes, really) and treated accordingly, leading to the most manic mania I have ever known her to have, and £5k debt in the course of a weekend. She has lived with BPD for 30 years and I am in awe of how well she manages it and its effects, but this was a really difficult episode. She didn't crowd fund, I hasten to add. I just don't think it's the same as someone like me choosing to live beyond my means.

The one that made me mildly uncomfortable recently was the Centre for Horseback Combat chap doing charity style fundraising to pay for eye surgery for one of their performing horses. That didn't feel quite right to me. If you're going to earn a living from an animal, the least you owe it in return is a good standard of care, right? The idea it might not have got the care it needed if other people hadn't been prepared to pay for it just didn't sit right.

 

[Annagain]

personally, it grates because of the guilt factor from scrolling on by, especially when they've really laid it on thick, it feels a bit like walking past a chugger.

I think in this case, the friends laying it on so thick, worked against her. They were clearly trying to build sympathy but if they'd just said "she bought a horse and within a week it got colic and had to be PTS, as it was in the first 14 days, insurance won't cover it" (which is the story in a nutshell) people would actually be more sympathetic as the full story just shows she didn't do her homework. The eyes and a lack of vetting aren't relevant to the colic but everybody (understandably) focused on them.

As an aside, I don't think the horse was insured at all - they were very vague about that and I know when I first had Charlie accidental injury and colic was covered in the first 14 days, it was just lameness and illness that wasn't.