Tall narrow natives, Arab?

I cannot get the pictures from that ad with the Lusitano to load for the life of me. On LTE or WiFi. Strange. Well, I guess it's not meant to be. ?

I do drool over a nice Lusitano with a noble Roman nose.

Imagine me, a weirdo, being disappointed when my PRE gelding first arrived and his nose didn't look as Roman in person ? true story. His head scored well at his inspection though.

When I shipped from Spain (Extremadura) to Western Germany 3 years ago with John Parker it was about £800.

I bought sight unseen in the high 4-figures range. Thought I was clearly insane, but that little bay horse had to be mine.

Sometimes I think, life is short, buy the horse. What else is my money doing? Sitting in savings being responsible? Pshhh ?
 
Looks like a more slender type:

https://www.ehorses.de/p-r-e--hengs...erd-working-equitation-barcelona/1992466.html

Not the most flattering ad, but the price is low. I somewhat know I'd this dealer. Usually straight forward with lower level budget type horses:
https://www.ehorses.de/andalusier-w...ockpferd-chiclana-de-la-frontera/1899169.html

A young gelding just started:

https://www.ehorses.de/p-r-e--walla...-equitation-vejer-de-la-frontera/1894888.html

None of these are exciting colors I'm afraid!
 
ycbm said:
He is indeed lovely, but I don't see any prospect of Muffin lasting three years until he can work :(

He's not very Spanish looking, is he? Beautiful though.

Now I'll sit and wait for the chorus of 'buy two! ' ?

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He is a part bred with a rocky mountain horse, and I think he looks great so you should definitely buy 2....
 
I would not risk importing unseen without a strong recommendation of the agent/ seller from someone i know well. Cortez recommended the buckskin agent before that horse came up, but I won't consider any others which aren't in this country without a similar recommendation.

The risk is too high.

I was at a stables once where a 15.2 PRE 8 year old mare had recently arrived. She was 14.1, newly branded, age a bit iffy. And pregnant.

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There is another user on here who has bought/ imported from Spain and has one in training in Spain atm. I have her on FB but can't remember her username....off to have a search!

ETA it's j1ffy - she posted on the "Backing 3/4 year olds" thread with some photos/ videos of the one in training in Spain. Might be worth a PM about her contacts?
 
ycbm said:
I would not risk importing unseen without a strong recommendation of the agent/ seller from someone i know well. Cortez recommended the buckskin agent before that horse came up, but I won't consider any others which aren't in this country without a similar recommendation.

The risk is too high.

I was at a stables once where a 15.2 PRE 8 year old mare had recently arrived. She was 14.1, newly branded, age a bit iffy. And pregnant.

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Ah, got it. I bought my gelding sight unseen from a dealer, but I did speak to people about this dealer beforehand, and couldn't find any negatives. The horse arrived as described. So I had luck on my side for once!

ycbm said:
It did it automatically :) Neither horse is right for me, sorry.
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Not exactly my cups of tea either, but at the price range, not a whole lot is, tbh. I was kind of taking the "throw stuff at a wall and see what sticks" approach ? every once in awhile there is a diamond in the rough.

While I have no further suggestions, I'm still going to watch this with interest. I'm committed now. I HAVE to know what you end up with!
 
CanteringCarrot said:
I bought sight unseen in the high 4-figures range. Thought I was clearly insane, but that little bay horse had to be mine.

Sometimes I think, life is short, buy the horse. What else is my money doing? Sitting in savings being responsible? Pshhh ?
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I bought my penultimate horse unseen simply from a pic on the internet. He was quite expensive for a foal but very special, He is now 5 and my dream horse. I bought his dad also unseen for more than 4k over the internet and I have never regretted it.

I started to have the view life was too short, I was getting older etc and basically what is an extra thousand for a good horse. CV certainly concentrates that view and especially now savings rates are going to be zero.

In this position, provided I could afford it and provided it was well recommended by someone reliable (which this one is) I would go for the Spanish dun. He is instant horse, don't need to waste time for a youngster growing up who could turn out to be anything and could also go lame. Also YCBM has an arena, from previous posts clearly likes working her horses there and taking lessons. The Dun has been taught that way so instant ride providing you learn which button to press to get it to go. :D

Sorry YCBM, perhaps my comments are a little over the top but he is a really nice horse. :)
 
CanteringCarrot said:
Sometimes I think, life is short, buy the horse. What else is my money doing? Sitting in savings being responsible? Pshhh ?
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This is exactly how I feel, especially with the virus catastrophe.

I'm absolutely fine with throwing stuff against the wall, it's fun. :)

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paddy555 said:
I bought my penultimate horse unseen simply from a pic on the internet. He was quite expensive for a foal but very special, He is now 5 and my dream horse. I bought his dad also unseen for more than 4k over the internet and I have never regretted it.

I started to have the view life was too short, I was getting older etc and basically what is an extra thousand for a good horse. CV certainly concentrates that view and especially now savings rates are going to be zero.

In this position, provided I could afford it and provided it was well recommended by someone reliable (which this one is) I would go for the Spanish dun. He is instant horse, don't need to waste time for a youngster growing up who could turn out to be anything and could also go lame. Also YCBM has an arena, from previous posts clearly likes working her horses there and taking lessons. The Dun has been taught that way so instant ride providing you learn which button to press to get it to go. :D

Sorry YCBM, perhaps my comments are a little over the top but he is a really nice horse. :)
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The dun is in a bidding war Paddy. I won't join that, it's a sure fire way to spend more than you meant to. I absolutely love him. If I could see him I would pay six grand without question.

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dorani said:
Lifetime Arab fan and owner im not in favour of the very narrow two legs in one knicker hole Arabs they are now.. but good news is Crabbet type are back in fashion ...now there is a horse!
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totally agree I don't like the large ones. Two of mine were by General Gold and only 14.2. Small and they could work.
Useless however in an arena. The liked it best when you pointed them in the right direction, set the sat. nav. and let them get on with travelling.
 
ycbm said:
The dun is in a bidding war Paddy. I won't join that, it's a sure fire way to spend more than you meant to. I absolutely love him. If I could see him I would pay six grand without question.

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Ah, so he was up for auction?... Or was there the unknown 'someone else is interested' problem?
It wasn't really clear from what you said before, it seemed to be the transport cost, which although a little pricey wasn't that far out.
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SatansLittleHelper said:
While buckskins are pretty I'm not overly struck and aesthetically PRE don't do a thing for me but bloody hell that boy is nice...!!! ❤❤❤❤
I think you should throw all caution to the wind and just buy him......I'm good at spending other people's money for them ???
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He is to die for, isn't he? Let's hope he fails the vet on something that wouldn't worry me, like the 'right' heart murmur.

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Just to add.....if you're going to buy something here rather than Spain my vote is for a really nice, big Welsh D. I absolutely love Ds but, quite frankly, probably couldn't ride side of one decently ????
I did used to ride a D stallion about 20 years ago, a liver chestnut. He was lovely but despite being entire he was unbelievably chill and I fell for him hook, line and sinker.
 
cobgoblin said:
Ah, so he was up for auction?... Or was there the unknown 'someone else is interested' problem?
It wasn't really clear from what you said before, it seemed to be the transport cost, which although a little pricey wasn't that far out.
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No he was for sale for 'offers over £4000' and they have more than one person offering. She wasn't bluffing, I'm pretty sure. She has my phone number if she was.

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SatansLittleHelper said:
Just to add.....if you're going to buy something here rather than Spain my vote is for a really nice, big Welsh D. I absolutely love Ds but, quite frankly, probably couldn't ride side of one decently ????
I did used to ride a D stallion about 20 years ago, a liver chestnut. He was lovely but despite being entire he was unbelievably chill and I fell for him hook, line and sinker.
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If the liver stallion with the flaxen mane hasn't gone over the weekend, I'll go and view him next week.

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paddy555 said:
totally agree I don't like the large ones. Two of mine were by General Gold and only 14.2. Small and they could work.
Useless however in an arena. The liked it best when you pointed them in the right direction, set the sat. nav. and let them get on with travelling.
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As a reasonably tall, long legged person I am glad that there are taller Arabs as it means I can still ride them without looking daft! My share boy is 15.3hh and I think he's lovely. I do agree about not being the best in an arena, though there are some that do go very nicely. The chap I ride is very much as you describe paddy555 - point him in the right direction and off you go!

My old mare is small (14.2hh) and I did ride her from age 11 (me, not her!) until I was 22 but I did feel tall on her. This is her when she was a bit younger, though she's still pretty sprightly (she's 27).
 

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Cortez said:
He's still under £5,000 - but transport's on top.
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I absolutely love him Cortez but I can't pay that unseen. And who knows what someone else would offer if I offer £4750. I would be sorely tempted at £5k including transport, but that's not possible now, I think. I think he's worth a lot more than that in this country, even including £1000 for transport. I'll just have to hope that the recession brings autumn prices down or I find a two or three year old version at a price I would chance.

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ycbm said:
I absolutely love him Cortez but I can't pay that unseen. And who knows what someone else would offer if I offer £4750. I would be sorely tempted at £5k including transport, but that's not possible now, I think. I think he's worth a lot more than that in this country, even including £1000 for transport. I'll just have to hope that the recession brings autumn prices down or I find a two or three year old version at a price I would chance.

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Well, when I go over to Spain THE MINUTE IT IS POSSIBLE next to look for a place to live, I shall most certainly find something for you. I have decided that you need to join the Spanish horse club :-), I think you'd like them...
 
HashRouge said:
As a reasonably tall, long legged person I am glad that there are taller Arabs as it means I can still ride them without looking daft! My share boy is 15.3hh and I think he's lovely. I do agree about not being the best in an arena, though there are some that do go very nicely. The chap I ride is very much as you describe paddy555 - point him in the right direction and off you go!

My old mare is small (14.2hh) and I did ride her from age 11 (me, not her!) until I was 22 but I did feel tall on her. This is her when she was a bit younger, though she's still pretty sprightly (she's 27).
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lovely mare. 27 seems to be nothing for an arab.
Mine was beyond hopeless in an arena. (that is why I wonder if a pure bred would be suitable for YCBM)
ride him over a perfectly mown lawn and he would end up in a heap on the ground. He simply couldn't be arsed. Far too boring Trot him down a twisty slope, strewn with rocks and other hazards on a loose rein and you were perfectly safe. :)
 
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