How does an Irish charity horse end up being sold through a uk dealer? Does IHWT not retain full ownership to end of life of their equines, rehoming as ‘loan’ agreements, like other equine charities?Passport came with pony on my trial, the poor boy had been through the Irish Horse Welfare Trust so the usual lies about "family home since a foal" continued myfeelings.
I have to confess I have bought quite a few cheap horses without vetting back in the day, and only got seriously burnt on one occasion, but that was sheer good luck that it only happened once and a risk of financial loss I had decided I could afford to take.
A friend of mine contacted SWSNBN before I had any knowledge of her antics.
That is weird. They are a charity and wouldn't be selling on their rescues surely? I thought registered charities over here still retain ownership regardless if they are rehomed to suitable owners.
On the contrary. Although we can agree on horses suffering through this wretched woman, there are also the hundreds of people who have been scammed and seriously injured by the horses this woman sells. And I think you will find caveat emptor is no longer accepted as an excuse for misrepresentation and lying
I dread to think, but it was there in his tatty passport
I think the majority of people had their vets to the horse whilst on trial. I did.I haven't read all the background to this but if people are paying many thousands of pounds for these horses, do you not expect to do some sort of vetting before you part with your money? I have taken a horse on two weeks trial from a dealer over here (very reputable) and had it vetted by my own vet whilst here with me on trial. The seller (very trusting but knew people I knew) also trusted me to take the horse (which he brought to me so he could see where the mare was going etc.) without any payment. I paid for her in full straight after vetting and before the two weeks trial was up. Fabulous horse and stayed with me for many happy years until her death last year. Point is, I would never have bought and paid for her without a vetting as she had already been a hunter for 6 years so belt and braces needed on that point alone.
I guess it isn't really so much people are being eejits buying as they have from this woman, but more a case of how we all vary in our risk assessment of possibly losing a substantial amount of money.
Not really, when the deal is that 'the purchaser has 7 days to return the horse if they do not like it' - this is the literal wording of her agreement. It's up to you to be able to assess within 7 days if it suits you, whether that means riding, vetting, asking professional advice, etc.
I haven't read all the background to this but if people are paying many thousands of pounds for these horses, do you not expect to do some sort of vetting before you part with your money? I have taken a horse on two weeks trial from a dealer over here (very reputable) and had it vetted by my own vet whilst here with me on trial. The seller (very trusting but knew people I knew) also trusted me to take the horse (which he brought to me so he could see where the mare was going etc.) without any payment. I paid for her in full straight after vetting and before the two weeks trial was up. Fabulous horse and stayed with me for many happy years until her death last year. Point is, I would never have bought and paid for her without a vetting as she had already been a hunter for 6 years so belt and braces needed on that point alone.
I guess it isn't really so much people are being eejits buying as they have from this woman, but more a case of how we all vary in our risk assessment of possibly losing a substantial amount of money.
Shocking. The IHWT work with Blue Cross uk charity, rehoming through them too - does BC sell on their horses? (Not asking you specifically just curious to know how the ball got dropped with a reputable charity horse to end up with a uk dealer)I dread to think, but it was there in his tatty passport
I dont believe the horse was ever being pts. It's just another thing to come out of her mouth, another manipulative tactic.
Sell no but pass on ownership after a certain period of time yes
So the BC is the leak then, if say after 2 years with a rehome they give full ownership - that owner is free to then sell.
Me too, I saw that post earlier. Has there been any update on it? The admins have turned off the comments on the newer posts.
To cut a long story short, I purchased a horse from her, 14 day trial, gave a chance to settle. Novice ride, head shy, nervous, couldn’t mount or catch easily, totally unsuitable but I hung in there as he wasn’t nasty and I had good people around me. He then threw me after broncing and bolting, I was very lucky as I was alone in an isolated area. I couldn’t get over the anxiety so decided to return on Sales livery as five months passed. 20% cut agreed etc. however months on, she didn’t keep me informed of any trials and failed to notify me of the sale: i had to keep chasing and her sharp and nasty responses increased my anxiety terribly as she had my horse and my money. I lost brand new tack and £4.5k. Then was drip fed a refund of the remaining funds. I could never find where he was ever advertised and I trawled the internet regularly. I didn’t take it any further as I just needed to put the whole experience behind me probably like a lot of others have done.
I did earlier and on the free report zero comes up.
It's not like she's paid them out of her own pocket though
Interesting for anyone that remembers Ricky sawyer...he done something similar to her.How very bizarre to say the least. I wonder what the motive is behind that.
Certainly do! He's been on the telly. Don't remember him running any kind of horse related Ponzi scheme though.
www.bbc.co.uk
Yes tbf on this one there does seem to be two sides to the story.
Yes. I saw that. A lady opposite the yard has the horse. Doesn’t sound like the horse will be around for long
