The Further Decline of the Hunting Fraternity...

[wrighty]

"Iraq - A fledgling democracy. Slowly stabilising and back on track to becoming the proud nation it once was."

I don't agree with that 1 bit, I've not a clue on the rest of it but I know we've managed to **** up Iraq.

 

[Blairite]

"Iraq - A fledgling democracy. Slowly stabilising and back on track to becoming the proud nation it once was."

I don't agree with that 1 bit, I've not a clue on the rest of it but I know we've managed to **** up Iraq.

I wouldn't believe all you see on the news Wrighty. Much is being done to stabilise the state. Have no doubt, mistakes have been made. Sacking the Iraqi police force and the armed forces was one of them! But this was never going to be an easy situation and there can be no quick fixes.

Regards

Lord_Blairite

 

[wrighty]

True, there are no quick fixes, the problem was we thought there would be.
The war was planned out to the second, everyone knew what would happen, we win, the plans for peace were cobbled together not taking into account the divisions between the Iraq population.

I don't believe what I see in the press on this or any subject. I listen to people who kow what they are talking about and the people in the firing line, literaly.

 

[Blairite]

Very true and well said Wrighty.

Regards

Lord_Blairite

 

[severnmiles]

You're the deluded one sweetheart, you do realise that all of the stats realeased are given in a 'positive' way, percentages, facts, figures are twisted and written in a way to please the public..what they don't know about won't hurt them.

Re. the countryside, Defra want shooting, did you not read the article in the Telegraph I take it? I doubt your Labour cronies did either.

 

[soggy]

"Pure semantics." NO, Law. Read my earlier post.

No Pure semantics, read mine.

All that proves is that you are a violent person and a strange one at that keeping the teeth as a trophy.

Hardly all that it proves it that I have proved to my own satisfaction that what you claim is pish. I've kept the tooth just in case he wanted it back at some point. It sits in the ashtray of the Landie waiting for him to claim it.

So working through your own logic you are saying all hunters are wife beaters?

Did I say that? Don't think that I did?

Oh and by the way, seeing I have little or no hair it would be incorrect to put me into a hippy or "greasy dreadlocks" pigeon hole,

The length of your hair or its style has nowt to do with why I call you a hippy.

and NO I am not a skin head as that generalisation implies I am a violent racist, which I am not either.

So you're a slap head hippie then!

 

[soggy]

Countryside - Rivals any in the world! DEFRA have done a wonderful job in securing the right economic conditions for success, now and for the long term. The reforms brought in by the former Formidable Secretary of State, Mrs. Beckett, meant that farmers had to be more accountable for their livestock and the treatment of them. She also made the conditions in which farmers could sit back and think to themselves "we've never had it so good" Blair also did a good job fighting the CAP and the ridiculous demands of the French Government.

LMAO

You have swallowed that labour propaganda leaflet again haven't you?

SFP, and self modulation. Both wonderful examples of your heros cock ups at work.

 

[severnmiles]

"NHS - The budget has nearly tripled, we have never had so many doctors and nurses, of course there are difficulties, but we are the party to overcome them."

Difficulties....do you want to try and make excuses for the recent Junior doctor c*ck up, many are feeling suicidal (alongside alot of farmers) due to Labours incompetence.

"Iraq - A fledgling democracy. Slowly stabilising and back on track to becoming the proud nation it once was."

Tell that to my brothers dead best friend, atleast he died a man, something I'm sure you won't.

 

[wrighty]

"Did I say that? Don't think that I did?"
No you didn't but if you are ok using generalisations then you should accept others.
Anti's are all hippies as there might be 1 or more anti's with "hippy" attitudes and beliefs therefore as a hunter has been convicted of beating his wife (Possibly more, I'm not sure on that) then all hunters are wife beaters, unless the hunters are wives themselves, I have no theory on this yet.

Just to clear things up to other Pro's, I am not saying all hunters are wife beaters, just trying to educate Mr Soggy here on the problems of generalisations.

 

[severnmiles]

I wouldn't believe all you see on the news Wrighty

Take your own advice and don't believe all of the bull5hit Labour spout.

 

[soggy]

No you didn't .

Thank you tahs all I wanted to read.

but

There is no but! I either said it or I didn't. As you have just agreed I didn't say it.

However you did recommend punching someone as a means of defence. Tut tut What will the council of senior hippies say about that? You'll be blackballed.

If you go sneaking around TF's place in the middle of the night you'll be blackballed as well most likely. But in a far more painfull manner. :grin:

 

[wrighty]

"Tell that to my brothers dead best friend"
I'll jump in on this one. If he was in the "forces" he made that decision himself, he took the pay therefore he does the job, if he dies doing that job (Always a possibility as they are trained to shoot at people) it is a shame but it shouldn't be used to prove a point.
His death has got nothing to do with "A fledgling democracy. Slowly stabilising and back on track to becoming the proud nation it once was" it has to do with doing his job.
I have known many people (Incuding family) in the forces over the years and some have been killed, injured and traumatised, ALL of them agree that if you get paid to do the job, you do the job. Some might not have agreed with the decisions made by other people above them but ALL did as they were told and knew the risks.

 

[severnmiles]

Totally agree, they're not paid the queens coin to sit at home.

Iraq is still a c*ck up though.

 

[wrighty]

"Someone using a whip to hit you, you can defend yourself by removing the whip from the attacker using reasonable force.(Self Defence)
Someone using a whip in a threatening manner, if you feel in direct threat from that person with the whip you can pre-empt the attack and defend yourself by removing the whip from the attacker using reasonable force. (Self Defence)
After the whip has been removed and the attacker is no longer a threat you cannot continue to use force on this person, if you do it is illegal (Assault) UNLESS you clearly state that you are arresting that person for the assault. Using the whip you have just removed to hit your attacker would usually be classed as assault (Very difficult to justify this)"

OK, tell me where in this I say you can punch anyone?

"But in a far more painfull manner."
Another threat? That's not nice.

I won't bother with you after this on the hippy, wife beater saga.
I can only assume that Soggy is a red coat wearing toff who enjoys torturing and killing animals with no regard for the law of the land who beats his wife on every possible occasion with a whip.
I cannot at the moment make more generalisations as I do not know where he is from, what religion he is or what ethnic group he belongs to but can guess he's a carrot crunching, sandal wearing, bible bashing tosspot who sits on gates with a straw in his mouth shouting "get orf moi laaaand" to anyone who isn't driving a landy or a tracter.
Any more generalisations needed on this forum?

 

[severnmiles]

That all Herefodians are cider drinkers...Oooo Arrrrrrrr

 

[wrighty]

That is true, but not born here.
Others know where I'm from but I won't bother you with that now.

 

[peakpark]

quote/ shouting "get orf moi laaaand" to anyone who isn't driving a landy or a tracter. /quote

dear me, evidence of class hatred. Is your opposition to hunting based that too?

 

[soggy]

" The use of a fist to the face IMO is violence but the use of a fist to other parts of the body to stop an attack is appropriate, it's all about knowing what is classed as self defence and reasonable force.

What a short memory you have.

Its a good job one of us is paying attention.

 

[wrighty]

Peak, read all the comments I have been making about generalisations and hopefully it will make more sense.

 

[soggy]

"But in a far more painfull manner."
Another threat? That's not nice.

No threat implied, or intended. Just stating the likely result.

I won't bother with you after this on the hippy, wife beater saga.
I can only assume that Soggy is a red coat wearing toff who enjoys torturing and killing animals with no regard for the law of the land who beats his wife on every possible occasion with a whip.

Have you been stalking me? :shocked:

I cannot at the moment make more generalisations as I do not know where he is from, what religion he is or what ethnic group he belongs to but can guess he's a carrot crunching, sandal wearing, bible bashing tosspot who sits on gates with a straw in his mouth shouting "get orf moi laaaand" to anyone who isn't driving a landy or a tracter.

I knew it! I bally well knew I was being stalked by some slap headed hippie these last few month!.:shocked:

You should have come out of the bushes and introduced yourself Wrighty, No need to be ashamed.

 

[wrighty]

Soggy, I stand corrected. Yes I did say that.
A punch to the chest can be used as a good form of self defence, a punch to the face is a violent attack.

Please forgive me for doubting your memory.

 

[severnmiles]

A punch to the chest is not much of a defense unless the opposition is a weedy little pale faced veggie (sorry jumping in on the generalisation bandwagon :grin therefore surely you'd have to punch more than once which would in turn become a violent attack...is it not better just to knock one on the chin and be done with it?

 

[soggy]

Depends on whether you are a short arsed slap headed hippie or not I suppose.

You know that TF is over 6'5" :shocked:

 

[wrighty]

Thanks for the generalisation again, as we all know veggies (Or even vegans like me) are all weedy, weak, pale and always have colds.
A strike (I won't call it a punch again as it might confuse some people) to the solar plexus can be very effective, and it moves less than the head therefore easier to hit 1st time.

 

[severnmiles]

Well 'Dr' Gillian McKeith is a fine example... :grin:

I do applaud you, I've got Coeliacs and find it so hard to live without wheat and only do it because I have to, I could NEVER give up meat (partly because giving up wheat and meat wouldn't leave much for me to eat but mainly because I love meat too much!).

Do you practise martial arts?

 

[wrighty]

I used to say I could not live without meat, it is easy now.
I have studied various things over the years for fitness and work reasons but never a single martial art.

 

[soggy]

(Or even vegans like me) .

It just had to be didn't it?

[/quote]A strike (I won't call it a punch again as it might confuse some people) to the solar plexus can be very effective, and it moves less than the head therefore easier to hit 1st time. [/quote]

Have you been reading that self defence for hippies book again?
You shouldn't believe all that you read in those things you know.
Whilst you re figuring out exactly where you intended victims solar plexis is, she most probably will have smacked you in the side of the head and and gone off with you digital camera, to show her mates back at the stables.

 

[Mithras]

I dont often come on here, but that first post has got to be one of the most hilarious I have ever read. Its serious too. Talk about thick!

I'm also glad to note that since my last visit to this forum, there is no more snow on the ground.

Oh! Doh! I forgot it was summer now!

 

[severnmiles]

I used to say I could not live without meat, it is easy now.
I have studied various things over the years for fitness and work reasons but never a single martial art.

Still don't think the body should be deprived of meat, it is what we first existed on and we don't evolve that quickly but you've made your choice! Wrighty you're not so bad but I personally can't stand LB.

 

[soggy]

I used to say I could not live without meat, it is easy now.
I have studied various things over the years for fitness and work reasons but never a single martial art.

SM
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He's talking about Yoga and phensuei(sp)