The Peel case horses - the lost ones

Frumpoon said:
65 horses unaccounted for, is that correct???
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No, most of the horses are accounted for, but some are 'missing'. Here's the latest list from AL.

1. Autumn Dancer 2 - Harry/Harrison horse (sold 2012)
2. Vlaqc Tinwe - Sparky (shot)
3. Amira Obeyd - Amira (returned to MWA/escaped)
4. Templars Mis Alliance - Coco (returned to peel)
5. Templars Orchestral Pearl - Harley (returned to peel)
6. Sirhowy Cyrus - Obi (missing)
7. Bubblegum - Bumble (re homed by happa/escaped)
8. Mysticfold Charming Boy - Piers (died 2010 colic)
9. Templars Magic Pearl 2013 foal (born dead)
10. Fiyah Dominion - Shady (shot)
11. Little Starlight - Delilah (returned to peel)
12. Honest Villian - William (returned to peel)
13. Spark Persepolis (missing)
14. Hadida Pearl - Haps (died pre 2013)
15. Spartan Princess - Diva (shot)
16. Templars Malazaar - Malcolm (missing)
17. Silversun Khoomi - Khoomi (shot)
18. Templars Prince Caspian - Dinky (missing)
19. Templars Milli Vanilli - Milli (returned to peel)
20. Taragun - Taz (shot)
21. Tobago's Ambasador - Buzz (escaped)
22. Last Crescendo - Cresh (shot)
23. Spark Shahrya (missing)
24. Sunlea Darreanna - Tara (died pre 2013 brain tumour)
25. Templars Legz Akimbo - Legz (return to peel)
26. Oakthwaite Shamtar - Shammy (one of the dead bodies)
27. Bradney Anna - Anna (shot)
28. Twist Hoeves Nansy - Nancy (shot)
29. Templars Mystis Shadow/Enigma - Midge (shot)
30. Templars Crie de Coeur - Treacle (missing)
31. Edgevale Against All Odd's - Pip (shot)
32. Heron De La Forge - Heron (shot)
33. Whichways Summer Breeze - Breeze (shot)
34. Phaaraoh - George (shot)
35. Templars Magic Pearl - Mouse (returned to peel)
36. Downlands I'm Hello Dolly - Dolly (even peel claims she is missing)
37. Templars Nimrod - Pepsi (shot)
38. GJK Spotted Senstaion - Yogi/sydney (returned to peel)
39. Magidaa Bint Mamoona - Binty (returned to MWA/escaped)
40. MWA Mudkour - Muds (died pre 2013 suspected ruptured aorta)
41. Indian Silver Moon - Indie (peels claims she returned him to MWA)
42. CAS Rosaroma (returned to owner/escaped)
43. Sahara Sundance - Scarlett (escaped)
44. Holme Park Lennon - Lennon (returned to owner/escaped)
45. Je t'adore - Sia (died pre 2013)
46. Edgevale It's A Miss Justice - Justy (returned to owner/escaped)
47. OSO Harlequin - Moo Moo (returned to peel)
48. Little starlight 2013 foal - Goose (returned to peel)
49. Vladimier H - Joules (returned to peel)
50. Feathers Mcgraw - Feathers (died pre 2013)
51. Zariadne - Zizi - (missing)
52. Star ascendant - Scottie (missing)
53. Vlaqc Tanlanique - Tal (one of the dead bodies)
54. Euphorbia (died pre 2013)
55. Alileo - Leo (missing)
56. Oakmieter Dirty Harry - Harry/AJ (returned to peel)
57. Arieta - Rita (shot)
58. Templars Sea Monkey - Neville (returned to peel)
59. Templars Cultured Pearl - Molly (shot)
60. Templars Chanson d'amour - Quizz (missing)
61. Templars Pearl Hanifeyah - Shrimp (missing)
62. Templars Moonsong - Boots (missing)
63. Templars ? - Moose (missing)
64. Templars Vindaloo - Vinnie (missing)
65. Earlys Rising (died 2012)
66. Eva/Eve (missing)
67. Winston (missing)
68. Vlacq Emerald Theoden - Theo (Died)
69. Ringkay Freddie - Freddie (Missing)
70. Caspian Filly (2005)
71. Shush (re homed by happa)
72. Caspian X Welsh (missing)
73. Willow Annabell Believed sold)
74. Little Miss Pepperpot (Probably Passed away buy poss missing)
75. Ephepe (returned to Aults)
76. Ruby (spirit13/Danielle)
78. Filly foal (2007) (died)
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Wella said:
Bump. And yes supposedly!!!
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rachelle-newnham-2b5a1712
How can someone have two names?
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This isn't necessarily sinister at all, some people will use their maiden name for their profession and their married name for non work related stuff. A prime example was a consultant psychiatrist I worked with who qualified prior to marriage, was known as Dr. X but when doing family stuff, she was Mrs Y.
I find it much more concerning that there are so many "escaped" and "missing" horses, I have no idea how that happens!
 
Yes people often keep their 'professional name' especially once you have a few years under it, science wise you lose your traceable journal papers otherwise :p
 
YorksG said:
I find it much more concerning that there are so many "escaped" and "missing" horses, I have no idea how that happens!
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Indeed. All those horses and not one says 'sold'. Is it not usual for a stud to pass some of their stock on?

Also... this thread on AL dated 19th November (only 4 months before the neglect came to light) has the quote

"2013 should be a lot more active than 2012 was (we were quiet because of exams and poor weather)."

no mention of stephen peel's illness then that allegedly prevented him for caring for upwards of 30 horses all by himself. http://arabianlines.com/forum1/topic_new.asp?TOPIC_ID=49706

All this only came to light because someone (thank you that someone) reported seeing a dead horse in the field.
 
YorksG said:
This isn't necessarily sinister at all, some people will use their maiden name for their profession and their married name for non work related stuff. A prime example was a consultant psychiatrist I worked with who qualified prior to marriage, was known as Dr. X but when doing family stuff, she was Mrs Y.
I find it much more concerning that there are so many "escaped" and "missing" horses, I have no idea how that happens!
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The "missing" are ones that are unaccounted for, probably dead, the "escaped" on the list are the lucky ones who were returned to their owners, sold on or never actually went to the Peels in the first place.
 
There are 16 on the list saying 'shot', were they all shot by the RSPCA? Are the 13 which were returned to Peel, actually owned by her? or could they belong to other people?
 
13 were shot by the RSPCA
Vlaq
shady
khoomi
taragun
cresh
anna (welshie)
nancy
shady
midge
arrieta
pip
heron
breeze

3 by happa
diva
phaaroah (george)
pepsi
 
Do you think the "died pre 2013" ones actually died of the reasons the peels stated, or is more likely they just perished in the barns/fields?
 
I often think if these poor horses having Arabs myself it's very sad to think so many lovely horses perished at the hands of these people, and then the rspca shooting so many that could have easily been rehomed many as ridden horses criminal :(
 
It was doing the rounds on one of the FB groups the other day with the newspaper article. I linked it to the AL posts as it is so much worse than the article :(
 
The woman won her appeal before it got to court and it would seem the RSPCA could be accused of fraud all so unnecessary just leaves a bad taste all round. The RSPCA really should be brought back into the realms of assisting and educating and leave these type of prosecutions to the CPS
 
I was astounded that the case didn't feature on Panorama. It was a pretty poor bit of journalism to be honest, very disappointing from John Sweeney. Think we could all point to far more devastating cases than those featured.
 
southerncomfort said:
I was astounded that the case didn't feature on Panorama. It was a pretty poor bit of journalism to be honest, very disappointing from John Sweeney. Think we could all point to far more devastating cases than those featured.
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Agreed. I know of another disgraceful case.
 
southerncomfort said:
I was astounded that the case didn't feature on Panorama. It was a pretty poor bit of journalism to be honest, very disappointing from John Sweeney. Think we could all point to far more devastating cases than those featured.
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It was not the best programme but there was no way that the Peel case could have been looked at as it was not an example of the point they were trying to get across, that the RSPCA is losing it's way, that they often take action against the vulnerable rather than listen, advise and try and come to a sensible solution, the working sheepdog situation was a good example as they lost in the end and the dogs were returned, the same with the "mad cat lady" she was overwhelmed, more a victim of being too caring, not the overt cruelty that needs to be dealt with swiftly, the cats could have been reduced, she could have been given help to cope rather than them going in and taking them all away, she got some back so the story could be shown to it's conclusion, the same with the dogs.

The Peel case was totally different, there is no one to interview, the evidence was destroyed/ tainted before it went to court and the outcome was not a good one for most of the "rescued" horses, RP cannot be interviewed because she has obviously got away with serious and long term negligence, no one from the RSPCA could be interviewed as they messed up big time in every way, anyone else involved with the rescue and prosecution seemed to have their own agenda so at best would be careful what they said, at worst would lie.

I still think of the Peel case and wonder how many were "lost" looking at the list on AL brings up more questions every time, where are they all, they could not be so careless to lose so many to natural causes, yet the list is still incomplete with so many unaccounted for, of the rescued only 1 is known to be safe, Bubblegum was rehomed, that what was a successful stud could have such a dark side is still so shocking I hope it does keep being brought up so something similar never happens again, to lose one now and again is part of keeping animals to lose dozens is incomprehensible when they were still so actively involved at the highest level of showing and the daughter was eventing, those horses were their shop window, the rest were suffering behind the scenes.
 
But they implied that they had tried to reduce numbers for her/help etc, even I thought that the route they went down was probably last possibility to resolve the situation if she wouldn't otherwise sign any over.
 
ester said:
But they implied that they had tried to reduce numbers for her/help etc, even I thought that the route they went down was probably last possibility to resolve the situation if she wouldn't otherwise sign any over.
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The cat lady, yes they probably did go in as a last resort but as she got some back I suspect their help was not as generous as it could have been, I think hoarders are the most difficult to deal with and are by nature normally fairly batty in the first place even if their intentions are good, I have no idea how you deal with them but prosecuting is not the answer and not really in the interests of anyone although they do have a charge on her home to pay for their costs.
 
I think John Sweeney was falling over himself to be seen to be even handed, and only used cases where there was hard evidence and the court cases were over.
I think the comments from the ex Charity Commissioner were the most worrying and the fact they seem to have done nothing as yet to change.
The RSPCA are asking for more powers when than can not even manage themselves properly.
 
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