They av their ban...y cnt they leave us alone?

[Jay89]

I really do not understand sum of these hunt antis...HUnting is 'banned' leave us alone!! Today went out there were bout ten of them all wearin balaclavas, which i think is rather Intimidating, at one point we were stopped n they decided to cum mingle between us. I also find it quite indimidating wen they record u, we were trotting dwn a main road da hounds weren't even is sight...gonna b pretty hard to record illegal hunting with no hounds in sight lol!! I jus wish they wud leave us to it!!

 

[Chestnut_filly12]

I completely agree - are there any anti's here who would kindly explain why they feel the need to "monitor" *ahem* the hunting?

Do you really not trust the hunts to abide by the - however confusing it may be - law?

 

[Hercules]

Jay89,

I agree entirely, but please do not use text/chav speak when typing. It detracts from your argument. Innit.

 

[Jay89]

Jay89,

I agree entirely, but please do not use text/chav speak when typing. It detracts from your argument. Innit.

lol sorry use it on msn all the time!!

 

[Ereiam_jh]

Myb thsts jst hw sh spks ifynwtim?
chvs hv rts 2 eh?

 

[redthing]

Coz y dnt gt it

 

[Jay89]

*cough* Not a chav lol just use the text and msn speech because it so much quicker to type!!

 

[Chestnut_filly12]

Yes well now we really are distracted from the argument! Lol

But does anyone have any points to make about the original post - except about the way it was written. lol.

 

[Burnsall]

"da hounds"?

 

[peakpark]

I don't think they care about the ban one way or the other.
The only reason why anyone should dress up in balaclavas and follow, unprovoked, a group of people, would be with the intention of intimidating and menacing.
Presumably, as it's half term, there were children out, so the sabs will have succeeded in their intent - as a child I would have been very scared.
Why they wish to intimidate children I know not - you'll have to ask them, but you'll probably get a dusty answer.

 

[Fairynuff]

Theyre not antis, theyre louts with nothing better to do than intimidate people.I see nothing wrong with monitoring activities but to turn up dressed for a Falls Rd party is a bit over the top.Take away their uniforms and most will be too chicken to turn up.Theyre spineless cowards who hide behind each other and their anonymity. Ignore them. Mairi.

 

[Burnsall]

Since Jay talks like Ali G I'm sure he/she would be more than a match for any opponents...

 

[Jay89]

lol ahhhh!!! I don't talk like Ali G lol and i am a she. Match for any opponents, lol was terrified when they came stood by me!!

 

[Kristine]

those anti's on saturday were breaking the law themselves. They had their balaclava's covering there faces intimidating us!
I believe that is the law and also they were on private property and there only aloud public footpaths or byways which is also against the law (i believe)

 

[Burnsall]

You should have scared them off with a killer rap:

"Yo! yes its me im da girl from da hood,
And if u aint scared rite now then ya surely should.
I gotta mes a whip and it noes howta cut,
And if u don't go now I'm gonna beat ya butt!"

 

[Jay89]

lol tehe thats quite good lol!! Dont think they would have listened to little me though!!

 

[Burnsall]

On a more serious note, I think it's disgusting of antis to do this to anyone, let alone a girl (sorry, I don't know how old you are!). It's calculated to upset and intimidate you. I suppose the best thing to do infuture is keep calm and get away from them as quickly as possible. I'd also talk to your parents and people in the hunt about the incident and ask for their advice.

 

[Jay89]

Im 17, it weren't like they were actually aiming there indimatation at me more at the whole hunt!! I think they just wanted their presence to b felt, like i said b4 just annoys me so much they have had their way and they shud just get lost!!

 

[Burnsall]

That's fair enough. The best thing to do - I guess - is not to respond in any way. They're trying to provoke you into saying or doing things whilst they're recording you. Just ignore them - easier said than done!

 

[Jay89]

Lol yea dats exactly what i did tho the temptation is to bend dwn and wave into the video camera lol hehe!

 

[flying_change]

"HUnting is 'banned' leave us alone!! "

Hunting may be banned, but (as has been shown by some prosecutions) some hunts are breaking the law.

I dont condone intimidation, obstruction, or violence on either side, but it is not illegal to wear a balaclava or ski mask. Just thing about all the publicity regarding moslem female dress.

RS

 

[Burnsall]

I'm an "anti" in the sense that I don't accept many pro arguments, but I disagree with you about balaclavas. They're clearly intimidating in the context described in the original post.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

So is posting pictures of people on the web and calling them Hunt Scum and countryside terrorists.

 

[Burnsall]

Nigel referred to antis as "scum" in another thread. Do you condemn this?

 

[Ereiam_jh]

As someone who has web pages devoted to calling him 'hunt scum' I feel qualified to comment on this issue.

I don't think all antis are scum so if that's what Nigel said then I don't agree with him.

However there is no doubt that SOME antis are scum. No doubt SOME people involved in hunting are too.
My views are consistently moderate and liberal.

That being said I would have to understand the context in which it was said before casting judgement.

I tend to say things to annoy people and get an argument going. That's because I value the debate. I think it is good to engage with people who see things differently.

Sometimes people take things the wrong way.

In a similar vein I don't thin ALL hunting is cruel I do think that hunting CAN be cruel.

 

[flying_change]

I didnt say it isnt intimidating, I said it isnt illegal.

 

[Burnsall]

It may be: the police have quite wide discretionary powers for some offences, such as causing a breach of the peace etc.

 

[peakpark]

I would have thought intimidating children was illegal

 

[flying_change]

Why dont you find me the law that says that wearing balaclavas is illegal.

 

[Kristine]

lol tehe thats quite good lol!! Dont think they would have listened to little me though!!

I should of sent Indy towards them i think they would of ran from 16.1 of pure Power! lol
Well lots of noise from hooves!
Dont think i can really call it power!

Once we were all at our boxes the hunt master whipper in and hunt master's wife drove there horses into them as they were on private property!