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The Amersham horses/ponies......

the fate of those horses/ponies as it seems to be panning out,

wouldn't it of been, (as a few non-emotive, non-wearers of rose tinted glasses said) better if these animals had been PTS 2 months ago????

i for one think maybe it should.

they are now, having been "rescued", fed, kept warm, dry, cosseted, going to have a MAJOR shock when they are sold at auction next month...

isn't THAT cruelty in it's self???.......i think a few people should, rightly, be having a few sleepless nights over these animals...
 
Just to clarify, who do you think should be having the sleepless nights?
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Have to agree entirely!!!
Such a shame they have another ordeal to go through,especialy at auction,poor buggers!!!
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Surely vetted private sales would have been a better option??
 
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they are now, having been "rescued", fed, kept warm, dry, cosseted, going to have a MAJOR shock when they are sold at auction next month...



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yes i do agree about that
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its really not fair
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Yes I agree, PTS in the first place would have been better than rescuing them and then returning them to suffering and an unknown but probably miserable fate. However what would be even better would be if they could stay rescued.
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Just to clarify, who do you think should be having the sleepless nights?
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as it says in the title..."THINK...REALLY THINK"
 
I think it's ridiculous they can't be re-homed especially as there have been numerous offers. I don't understand the law in this country at all!
 
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really DD? can you elaborate.....?

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Because they have ended up back there. And if not with him the money from the auction is going to him. So they've been kept somewhere else, all that charity money spent on improving his horses - they are now worth more thru either weight or celebrity status and all the money is going to him. Not fair is it.

Think of the other poor horses that have been ignored during this period as the rescue centres were full of his ponies.
 
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really DD? can you elaborate.....?

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read the Judges report...HE didn't seem to think so....


another own goal by the good old RSPCA......
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really DD? can you elaborate.....?

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read the Judges report...HE didn't seem to think so....


another own goal by the good old RSPCA......
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I think that is slightly unfair as we were all berating the RSPCA for not acting sooner - it seems that they cannot win. I think the blame lies more with the legal system and exactly how neglected a horse has to be before it is cruelty.
 
I agree completly and I tend to be emotionally fluffy about anything like this.

Those poor poor animals would have been better to have been PTS when they were found. I know a huge amount of effort happened on the part of Operation Esther and the various charities; but at this point - for what?
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I am sickened by the thought of those horses going back, all the effort that has gone into those horses. All the donations who people made, all gone to waste as the horses are most likley going to end up in the same state all over again. The poor horses.
 
Ditto, they would have been better off put to sleep. When I think of that horse Red? that was on BBC news being turned out for the first time, he looked so happy, where on earth is he and the rest going to end up now
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i agree with you jm....these pnoies may well nd up in thehands of people who dont know what they are doing and may well then end up in a worse situation than before...frightening.....
 
Let me see if I've understood this correctly. JG starved a number of horses, ponies and donkeys to the point that A LOT of them died. The survivors are taken away, fattened up, looked after only for them to go back to auction and for HIM to get the profit of the sale?
And on top of everything else they might well still end up at the knackers?
F*cking hell!
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Let me see if I've understood this correctly. JG starved a number of horses, ponies and donkeys to the point that A LOT of them died. The survivors are taken away, fattened up, looked after only for them to go back to auction and for HIM to get the profit of the sale?
And on top of everything else they might well still end up at the knackers?
F*cking hell!
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you have obviously thought about this PF.....
 
the legal system is most at fault here, or the judge's interpretation of it. it is disgusting that these animals should go back to JG, or that he should profit in any way from the entire situation. there should be a public outcry.
has anyone got the Daily Mail on to this? they've got a LOT of clout.
 
Feel a bit mean saying this, but I wish I hadn't donated my £50 now. Wouldn't have given the money to him to fatten them, so feel a bit hypocritical to have now effectively given it to Redwings to fatten them on his behalf.

I really don't understand what's gone on here. So many dead horses seems inexcusable but surely there was far more to this story than the propaganda has let us be privy to.
 
why put them to sleep?? why not allow them a chance of a full and good life after the horrors they went through at ammersham, dont get me wrong it would have been much kinder to rehome/sell from the rspca centre im sure they would have sold quickly to people wanting to give them a good home, as going through the sales will be yet another stressful situation fr them to deal with, but i dont see why it would be kinder to kill them than give them the chance of a home, like the other thousands of horses that go through the sales in this country?
 
Is it a serious suggestion, rather than hindsight, that 'someone' i.e. the RSPCA, should have organised all the animals to be pts before any investigation or court case? The management of the court case maybe going 'wrong' in animal lovers' opinions but what does that have to do with adminstering food and medicine to starving and ill animals - anyone who thinks that's a bad idea is very hard hearted indeed. And at what point and on whose authority should they have been "put to sleep'? As someone else posted, they maybe should have been pts by the private person who owned the equine before they sold it knowing it had a problem and it started its spiral downwards to Amersham but as usual they were too greedy to pass up on a few quid.
 
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why put them to sleep?? why not allow them a chance of a full and good life after the horrors they went through at ammersham, dont get me wrong it would have been much kinder to rehome/sell from the rspca centre im sure they would have sold quickly to people wanting to give them a good home, as going through the sales will be yet another stressful situation fr them to deal with, but i dont see why it would be kinder to kill them than give them the chance of a home, like the other thousands of horses that go through the sales in this country?

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i'm sorry, but your post doesn't make any sense at all...........
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add to that - the legal system is completly crap if he gets the money back that they make at the sales, surely that should go to the charity? and as for him getting some back i thought most people who mistreat/abuse animals get banned from owning them? what went wrong here, did the judge read the case notes?
 
just to put another think about into it.... the whole country knows the exact date the horses are going to be sold, and they also know the exact location, so i wonder just how many people will go and "buy" an amersham horse?????
 
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just to put another think about into it.... the whole country knows the exact date the horses are going to be sold, and they also know the exact location, so i wonder just how many people will go and "buy" an amersham horse?????

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and inflate the prices, so JG gets more money...like that is a REALLY sensible idea...
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