this is just about the most arrogant piece I have read in a long time.

[paddy555]

this link is nothing to do with Natalie, this just seemed a suitable thread as it was still running and as it started about riders, dressage, etc etc
Just thought it was a rather nice clip.

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[shortstuff99]

Looks as if the operation for the bone infection has failed unfortunately.

 

[lizziebell]

Looks as if the operation for the bone infection has failed unfortunately.

I’m very confused by her posts. She insists he’s “not suffering physically or mentally”, yet i personally do not see a painfree or happy horse. The ct results she says she “predicted wouldn’t be good” - so why put him through all this in the first place, on top of how much treatment and time he’s already had.

 

[ycbm]

Looks as if the operation for the bone infection has failed unfortunately.

I can't help feeling it will be better for the horse not to get any older in her care. She doesn't seem to know when to call it a day. I hope the poor boy is free of pain and running free soon.
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[Hannahkayj]

I’m very confused by her posts. She insists he’s “not suffering physically or mentally”, yet i personally do not see a painfree or happy horse. The ct results she says she “predicted wouldn’t be good” - so why put him through all this in the first place, on top of how much treatment and time he’s already had.

This is what made me choke when she said it was mild foot pain?!

That poor horse is not pain free no matter how much she tells herself that.

 

[PurpleSpots]

The post this evening about Oliver Townend winning included this delightful reply from the owner of the page to one comment:

'The boring old repetitive trolls come out for Oli, when they’re not busy using their protractors to find any horse that’s 1 degree behind the vertical!'

Why, especially as a vet, is this person not more concerned with IMPROVING animal (horse) welfare? She's one who's helping to hold it back!!

 

[Hannahkayj]

The post this evening about Oliver Townend winning included this delightful reply from the owner of the page to one comment:

'The boring old repetitive trolls come out for Oli, when they’re not busy using their protractors to find any horse that’s 1 degree behind the vertical!'

Why, especially as a vet, is this person not more concerned with IMPROVING animal (horse) welfare? She's one who's helping to hold it back!!

She blocked me last night as I agreed with someone who said OT is awful how can you promote him.

I literally said I’d not have a horse with him and don’t understand how the horses perform consistently for him. (I don’t I think he’s god awful and puts his ego above the horse)

Got told I was a bully

 

[ycbm]

She blocked me after she had attacked the "physio" and I very politely suggested it was perfectly fair to ask whether her horse should really be operated on with his history.
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[Hannahkayj]

She blocked me after she had attacked the "physio" and I very politely suggested it was perfectly fair to ask whether her horse should really be operated on with his history.
.

I mean yeah you are right should she? No.

Did she ? Yeah
Has it worked? No

Now what for that poor horse. Feels like it’s very ego driven now

 

[shortstuff99]

She blocked me last night as I agreed with someone who said OT is awful how can you promote him.

I literally said I’d not have a horse with him and don’t understand how the horses perform consistently for him. (I don’t I think he’s god awful and puts his ego above the horse)

Got told I was a bully

Have to disagree with you here, his horses perform for him because he is not mean to them like people online seem to think he is. He is much nicer to his horses then a lot of the 'popular' riders are to theirs. Including two horses that were dog tired at Kentucky at the weekend, one of which fell at the last fence and the other eliminated the next day who have taken miles less flak when having a far worse outcome for the horse.

 

[Hannahkayj]

Have to disagree with you here, his horses perform for him because he is not mean to them like people online seem to think he is. He is much nicer to his horses then a lot of the 'popular' riders are to theirs. Including two horses that were dog tired at Kentucky at the weekend, one of which fell at the last fence and the other eliminated the next day who have taken miles less flak when having a far worse outcome for the horse.

I mean his warnings and yellow cards don’t lie really.

Doesn’t mean the others should be ignored either.

 

[shortstuff99]

I mean his warnings and yellow cards don’t lie really.

Doesn’t mean the others should be ignored either.

But for example Tim Price has pretty much the same amount of yellow cards

 

[Hannahkayj]

But for example Tim Price has pretty much the same amount of yellow cards

Not a fan of him either. But pointing out the facts isn’t bullying is it, you’ve got a guy that in 2018 for example had 3 warnings for excessive whip use put on a pedestal. Anyone who speaks out against him is a bully. Like ?!

Even after those 3 in 2018 he hasn’t stopped still been given warnings after warnings. She doesn’t like “bullying” I.e pointing out facts but is happy to stir the pot and get her little crew to chase people and be down right disgusting. Woman’s a walking contradiction

 

[Rowreach]

There's a couple of Oli-bashing threads knocking around the forum somewhere if you want to post on those ...

 

[ycbm]

For everyone Natalie has blocked, she hasn't blocked my phone just my tablet. The horse has a multiple resistant infection which no one antibiotic will treat and at the moment seems like no antibiotics will treat. He does appear comfortable and she is waiting to see if the infection takes hold again.

Her report of how upset he was at the hospital, so that they called her to take him home early, and his foot bled badly the next day, attributed to how unsettled he was at the hospital, was disturbing. It confirmed to me that I wouldn't have put a horse with his history through it, no matter how good the outcome she now gets is.
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[Bellaboo18]

She blocked me last night as I agreed with someone who said OT is awful how can you promote him.

I literally said I’d not have a horse with him and don’t understand how the horses perform consistently for him. (I don’t I think he’s god awful and puts his ego above the horse)

Got told I was a bully

You sound like someone I'd block
The Oli bashing does get a bit boring.

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

Apparently any nasty comments will be blocked and she doesn't condone bullying on her page....

Pot, kettle, black anyone?

She'd be so much more respectable if she just posted her guidance posts, especially as it's supposed to be her professional page - keep your private ones for the other stuff

 

[Hannahkayj]

Apparently any nasty comments will be blocked and she doesn't condone bullying on her page....

Pot, kettle, black anyone?

Yup this is my point. Walking contradiction

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Well in fairness she doesn't allow any bullying by others, only by herself and anyone defending her and that is enough bullying for any FB page to have.

 

[nutjob]

He does appear comfortable and she is waiting to see if the infection takes hold again.

He may have been nerve blocked again. She's described him as having a mild foot pain despite exhausting all the normal oral and IV painkillers and resorting to nerve blocking previously, it's delusional.

 

[PurpleSpots]

Re Oliver Townend - my shock with the vet in question was just the disparaging dismissal that anyone commenting negatively is only doing it as they have nothing better to do, and in the same sentence belittling all concerns about the state of competative dressage as being insignificant too. How can you just attempt to block out the importance of these issues that so many of us have seen/can see? Sport first, I suppose.

I mean I shouldn't have been shocked, but I was.

With regards the pain relief, I find it hard to believe anything that's written as it's often been the case that one thing is stated one day, only to be fully contradicted shortly afterwards. For example, denying all prior knowledge of the fundraiser initially, then a few days later openly admitting she knew it was being set up and being in full support of it once she knew it had had somme success!

 

[Hannahkayj]

Re Oliver Townend - my shock with the vet in question was just the disparaging dismissal that anyone commenting negatively is only doing it as they have nothing better to do, and in the same sentence belittling all concerns about the state of competative dressage as being insignificant too. How can you just attempt to block out the importance of these issues that so many of us have seen/can see? Sport first, I suppose.

I mean I shouldn't have been shocked, but I was.

With regards the pain relief, I find it hard to believe anything that's written as it's often been the case that one thing is stated one day, only to be fully contradicted shortly afterwards. For example, denying all prior knowledge of the fundraiser initially, then a few days later openly admitting she knew it was being set up and being in full support of it once she knew it had had somme success!

Spot on. Enough to give anyone whiplash

 

[Zoeypxo]

He may have been nerve blocked again. She's described him as having a mild foot pain despite exhausting all the normal oral and IV painkillers and resorting to nerve blocking previously, it's delusional.

He has had another CT post surgery, which she says the results are not good and she will update her page soon. Poor horse.

 

[meleeka]

With regards the pain relief, I find it hard to believe anything that's written as it's often been the case that one thing is stated one day, only to be fully contradicted shortly afterwards. For example, denying all prior knowledge of the fundraiser initially, then a few days later openly admitting she knew it was being set up and being in full support of it once she knew it had had somme success!

She stated the the other day he wasn’t on any pain relief, then elaborated to say he hadn’t had any since the sachet the night before, so he’d been off pain relief for approximately 12 hours

 

[Goldenstar]

Honestly I don’t think this lady is well .

 

[Hannahkayj]

That’s the only reasonable explanation for it

 

[Zoeypxo]

Has anyone read the update on the horse?
In one paragraph she says he is ‘completely sound’ then in another paragraph says he is ‘definitely not sound’ …

It says there is still some infected bone deeper in which needs to be removed, they have not decided yet wether to remove or let him go

 

[Hannahkayj]

Has anyone read the update on the horse?
In one paragraph she says he is ‘completely sound’ then in another paragraph says he is ‘definitely not sound’ …

It says there is still some infected bone deeper in which needs to be removed, they have not decided yet wether to remove or let him go

How long does this need to go on for before someone tells her to think of the horse ffs

 

[nutjob]

How long does this need to go on for before someone tells her to think of the horse ffs

People do tell her but they get deleted and blocked, haters don't you know!

 

[PurpleSpots]

From the video posted earlier today, he is clearly lame in walk, especially when taking more forward steps - though of course us mere mortals wouldn't be able to see that, so it's fine to post a video of a horse lame in walk then claim the horse is 'extremely comfortable' in a post 8 hours later?

No wonder the protests of the other horses when they are struggling get ignored!!