Thoughts/comments on Burghley vids?

Ignition said:
Good to hear they are ok. The footage should make interesting viewing, will it be on Pheobe's website? Best wishes to her and the horse.
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Yes, I'll put it up when they get back with all the cameras.

As an aside (and in no way to make light of this, it was nasty), about 4 times as many people 'tuned in' to watch Phoebe getting dunked by a young horse in the water than tuned in to see her go round Badminton/Luhmuhlen 4*! Sad to say that probably even more will want to see her/Frostie fall... :(
 
Ignition said:
Eek just watched Aistis Vikauskas, what a horrible fall.
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Felt sorry for the horse - he simply didn't understand the fence/was spooked by it. When do you get to jump a cascade?! Iam so surprised that no more horses seem to 'look' at it! He was looking very classy (after the blip at leaf pit).
 
Does anyone know what happened to Alex Hua Tian? It looked as if he eventually managed to stay on after hanging on heroically after blip at corner (he's going to have a real complex about those at this rate) but then the video froze, did he not continue? Thanks.
 
Ruthnmeg said:
Felt sorry for the horse - he simply didn't understand the fence/was spooked by it. When do you get to jump a cascade?! Iam so surprised that no more horses seem to 'look' at it! He was looking very classy (after the blip at leaf pit).
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Believe it or not but Iping used to have one on their PN/Novice course!

Thanks for this thread guys - have been at work all day so been wondering what's been going on! Shall watch the vids later.

Really hope everyone's ok who had falls and best of luck to CP tomorrow :D
 
Yes I just watched the video of her. At Badminton (I think it was) wasn't there a fall where a girl also had her foot trapped in the stirrup? I haven't seen it happen for a long time and then 2 in 2 events.
 
LEC said:
I felt so sorry for Master Monarch. He was going beautifully until then. Wonder what the plans will be with him as I think I would hate to see a 20 year old doing 4*.

Interesting what Andrew Hoy says about it: It will translate fairly well.
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Just read that Bettina not happy horse still eventing, this horse has always been surronded incontreversy(sp) Does anyone remember the fracas when he moved from Brook Staples to the Hoys?
I just hope that Georgie is ok the horse was enjoying himself(slightly too much!) ut its not easy taking on a made horse, he is not easy!!
 
Just got back from exhausting day at Burghley and am now watching Burghley TV, which I have to say is excellent, hats off to organisers for making this possible. Really good to have free videos, and available so quick.

Feel soo sorry for Phoebe, am a great fan, and Frostie seemed to be flying, well up on the time til then, think she is maybe a bit bold for her own good sometimes! Was all ready to photo her at Capabilitys South but she never made it. Glad she is ok and look forward to seeing Frostie back soon.

Hope all fallers ok, v unilke Rosie Thomas to fall :( Vibes to Nicola
Poor Ruth Edge, not first time she has led after DR, only to retire XC.
Daniel Sibley's horse Tarmac Adam is gorgeous!
And Mary K to win - she gave 2 class rounds and is such a lovely person, when some lads shouted @good luck Mary" to her when she was walking to course she turned to them, smiled and said "Thank you!" What a nice person, bet she made their day!
Know I am a fine one to criticise, but Louise skelton still looks a bit unbalanced to me.
The pros showed us how it should be done,

On a slightly random note, saw Clayton Fredericks walking back after his round. Is it just me or is he quite fit?!

Now off to watch some more, and Alex H's near miss too.
 
Not sure if anyone answered this re Rosie Thomas, but he caught a knee at the first part of the maltings tipped rosie out the side, her foot was caught in the stirrup and was dragged for about 10m until a stewart caught. It was so lovely seeing her get to her feet and hobbling over to him to hug him, very emotional!!
 
kerilli said:
Ouch, poor old boy and poor Georgie, she really didn't deserve that, but he was being very bold. Trying to take a stride out there, jeeez. :( :(

thanks Seth, when the vid didn't continue, I couldn't work out what had happened.
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Andrew Hoy always rode him in a very precise way and Brook also rode him in a more balanced way. Riding forward is good but it has to be in balance and a combination requires setting up. His stride to the 1st part was too long and flat and he had no choice but to try and take a stride out. The horse didn't deserve to be punished but I hope Georgie learns from her mistake. Maybe she should watch the video of Armada who would love to take strides out everywhere but is only allowed to when it is SAFE and at certain types of fences, otherwise he is throttled back and his enthusiasm is curbed so he doesn't get too unruly. As someone else said, a masterclass.
 
Would like to add my thanks to Burghley for the vids. Being a bit of a dressage novice (walk trot tests) I though the commentary on few dressage tests that I watched were really good. Enjoying watching the xc vids and also like the Mark Phillips course vid
 
oldvic said:
Andrew Hoy always rode him in a very precise way and Brook also rode him in a more balanced way. Riding forward is good but it has to be in balance and a combination requires setting up. His stride to the 1st part was too long and flat and he had no choice but to try and take a stride out. The horse didn't deserve to be punished but I hope Georgie learns from her mistake. Maybe she should watch the video of Armada who would love to take strides out everywhere but is only allowed to when it is SAFE and at certain types of fences, otherwise he is throttled back and his enthusiasm is curbed so he doesn't get too unruly. As someone else said, a masterclass.
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hear hear. I could see that Armada was itching to turn into Murphy Himself out there but AN had him anchored where necessary, amazing riding because he made that horse look pretty easy and I'd bet my last dollar he's a right hothead.

actually, I know I'll probably get slammed for daring to criticise anyone riding at a 4* when I never have, but I thought a few of the horse falls were caused by riders just getting faster and faster and letting the horse's stride get longer and longer. Not mentioning any names or anything. Maybe it was the fantastic ground that was contributing to the Yee Haa attitude, but some of them looked as if they were absolutely flying.

I can't help thinking another huge contributory factor might be that the distances were all VERY forward (at Discovery Valley, Trout Hatchery both parts, Maltings, Rolex Combo, hedges before Cascade.) In fact I think the only combination that was on a more condensed stride was the arena combination, and a LOT of horses hit most elements there.
Wasn't this more like French course designing, particularly Pierre Michelet, and not the usual thing we see from Capt Mark Phillips?
Or, is that too technical for this time of night?! ;) ;)
 
Just watched Toddy's round. Wow. Brilliant stuff, the Master at work again.
Wish the dressage commentators had mentioned Owen Moore though, because he worked with this horse for years to turn it from being difficult in the dressage, to doing a very decent test. He deserves a lot of credit imho.
 
Loving Craig Nicolai's grins on the cross country course! And lots of pats for the horse, think he pats him after every fence :)

Mark Todd looked masterful, and unusual to see him on a horse that actually takes up his long legs!
 
oldvic said:
Andrew Hoy always rode him in a very precise way and Brook also rode him in a more balanced way. Riding forward is good but it has to be in balance and a combination requires setting up. His stride to the 1st part was too long and flat and he had no choice but to try and take a stride out. The horse didn't deserve to be punished but I hope Georgie learns from her mistake. Maybe she should watch the video of Armada who would love to take strides out everywhere but is only allowed to when it is SAFE and at certain types of fences, otherwise he is throttled back and his enthusiasm is curbed so he doesn't get too unruly. As someone else said, a masterclass.
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Completely agree, oldvic. I'm just so very glad that her abandoning the horse at the approach to the fence didn't result in a worse result.
Y'know, I totally think it's an ace idea for riders to learn from more experienced horses, but a 19yo at Burghley stuck in my craw before I saw this. With the best will in the world, he wil never have the power or the speed to get himself out of jail if he needs to. Young bones on a horse of that talent might have resulted in a different outcome with that mess of a stride. Just so relieved they are both OK.
 
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I do not think it is up to anyone on here to decide whether a horse of 19 or in this case Master Monarch should still be doing a 4*. That is up to the owners and connections of the horse and not armchair eventers or anyone else. He looked like he was loving it, I hope my 4* horse is still going at 19 like him. Hopefully with a young rider to teach the ropes.
 
ElleJS said:
I do not think it is up to anyone on here to decide whether a horse of 19 or in this case Master Monarch should still be doing a 4*. That is up to the owners and connections of the horse and not armchair eventers or anyone else. He looked like he was loving it, I hope my 4* horse is still going at 19 like him. Hopefully with a young rider to teach the ropes.
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Well said.

Sincerely hope this thread isn't going to dissolve into one similar to last years Burghley, or this years Badders threads....... :mad:
 
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