FinnBobs
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My boy stopped eating the TB museli and the herbal chaff so I've moved him onto the Agrobs alternatives and he seems to be enjoying that much more!
Agrobs musli? It is the same idea but mine find it more palatable. (I have 5 barefooters, so diet is crucial.)
Thanks for the recommendation. Hopefully mine will too!My boy stopped eating the TB museli and the herbal chaff so I've moved him onto the Agrobs alternatives and he seems to be enjoying that much more!
I like the idea of horses boycotting ethically dubious feedstuffs - 'I enjoy my grub but I have principles too!'My boy stopped eating the TB museli and the herbal chaff so I've moved him onto the Agrobs alternatives and he seems to be enjoying that much more!
Maybe they will buy a multi-page spread in magazines ??It’s so sordid and sleazy, I’m surprised the media haven’t picked up on it, especially horse related media.
Wasn't the TB Musli a response to the Agrobs one coming on to the market? First they tried to rubbish Agrobs and say they weren't organic. Then they brought out their own Musli to compete. Their products didn't use alpine grasses before.
I like the idea of horses boycotting ethically dubious feedstuffs - 'I enjoy my grub but I have principles too!'
I remember when Thunderbrook first started they were very scathing about 'fibre feeds' and said that the fibre should be coming from grazing and hay and you just needed their 'base mix' alongside it. But they seem to have done a total U turn now and it seems the majority of their products are fibre based now.
Exactly! Dr Deborah was trying to tell me that my 16.3hh TB only needed base mix (that there were no available ingredients or analysis for) during winter and if I insisted I could manually chop/scissor hay to bulk out the feed ??
I had bought the Base Mix directly from my then (first) trimmer when I initially went barefoot. I bought it because of his pressure and he was equally dismissive of my questions about ingredients and calories etc. That's why I phoned TB directly and was spoken to like something she had stood in. So patronising and apparently customers dont need to know the details od the feed because they arent able to understand it anyway. That is why she has done all the hard work behind the scenes ?
The feed went on the muckheap straight after that call and it only took two more trims for me to click that the trimmer was a total nut job and not indicative of all "bf hippies"!
Exactly! Dr Deborah was trying to tell me that my 16.3hh TB only needed base mix (that there were no available ingredients or analysis for) during winter and if I insisted I could manually chop/scissor hay to bulk out the feed ??
I had bought the Base Mix directly from my then (first) trimmer when I initially went barefoot. I bought it because of his pressure and he was equally dismissive of my questions about ingredients and calories etc. That's why I phoned TB directly and was spoken to like something she had stood in. So patronising and apparently customers dont need to know the details od the feed because they arent able to understand it anyway. That is why she has done all the hard work behind the scenes ?
The feed went on the muckheap straight after that call and it only took two more trims for me to click that the trimmer was a total nut job and not indicative of all "bf hippies"!
I bought a bag of that base mix once about 6 years ago. Genuinely could not find a single horse that would eat it. Assume it was a dodgy bag or something but either way I wasn't in any hurry to buy anything else from them.
A lot of people appear to be unaware that Eddie and Deborah own the company so it's highly unlikely that there will be any stepping down or away from TB by them.
There seems to be 2 companies listed on Companies house both with Deborah Carley as the only officer, one incorporated in 2014 one in 2016, the more recent one is dormant. It would show previous officers so he had no role in either of those in the past however TB obviously the existed prior to 2014 so maybe he had more of a role then.
They are in a relationship and own properties together. I understand he does all the business management and has from day one. She does all the nutrition and pre covid They have both been involved since day on, and he was active in the company last week.
There was a newspaper article I linked further up the thread.
Even though her name only is listed as a MD (which could be for any number of reasons) he does gain as much from the business through their relationship and certainly seems the most hands on of the pair.
It is certainly true that Debbie owns the company, but Companies House list her as the only Director and the only person with 'significant control'. Eddie has been listed previously as their 'Business Development Manager' but I don't think he actually has any 'ownership' of the business.
I'm not saying he's not involved, just that he has no legal status, she is the only director and shareholder listed since it was incorporated in 2014. In the article it talks about him going to work for TB so effectively he is an employee albeit a key one.
I'm one of the people who he was rude to on facebook and email on a few occasions and fall into the wouldn't buy their feeds if you paid me category.
I haven't seen that much on facebook beyond a couple of people I know sharing a post, are people really defending him?
I'm one of the people who he was rude to on facebook and email on a few occasions and fall into the wouldn't buy their feeds if you paid me category.
I haven't seen that much on facebook beyond a couple of people I know sharing a post, are people really defending him?
Yip, including an ex employee
She seems to be of the opinion the people looking for virtual PA jobs in the Philippines have conspired against an "owner" of a horse feed company and it has probably been set up by other people/companies (?) jealous of TBs success.... she also admits to having been on the receiving end of abuse from him. You couldn't make it up??
If you put Thunderbrook into the search bar on FB public posts and comments come up, or at least they do for me and I'm technically inept!
I only got 2 posts come up one of which is someone I know. I'll look at the comments on the other. Surprised it's not more but then he's been so publicly aggressive in the past, maybe people are nervous of sharing.