To those who doubted us

ChristmasSparkles said:
Oh my god. She's too fat, she's too skinny, there's no pleasing is there! She's done EVERYTHING suggested to her in the original post, which I remember vividly, and now has a mare looking a complete 180 to what she did before. What is WRONG with some people?

I'm sorry but this [sorry for posting your pics Jade...hope you don't mind!]:


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To this:

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Anyone who can say a bad word about that effort and change, should be shot.


Jade, you've done a fantastic job. She looks a completely different animal and is NOT obese etc. She's an old lady and I think is SPOT on where she needs to be - no more, no less! Yet again, you've been jumped on. She looks incredibly healthy, happy and in her best condition through all your photos - including every one facebook probably. I'm so so so pleased for you and Lady. Well done and to make that amount of difference on a mare that looked incredibly poor before, is a complete credit to you. I'm glad you've managed to sort everything out to manage her needs and do your best for your horse. Congrats x
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From what I can see here there is no difference in the shoulder at all - certainly not any fat pads, and I can't see a channel down the back either. All I see is a gleaming healthy horse - nothing that needs watching any more than any other horse at this time of year (and by that I mean most need watching..).

From looking at the signatures of those going on about the horse being obese, I would say that their horses actually look just as fat...

OP well done. She looks really well.
 
Moomin, the mare was in pretty poor condition previously. There is no other way to view it. Unless you are remembering a different animal. That is why Jadey had such a hard time and is so deserving of praise for addressing such a serious situation, which had involved the RSPCA.
 
Moomin1, IIRC that is actually one of the better pictures?

Anywho, well done Jadey. Although she is a bit porky for me, especially in this pic where you can see a gutter down her back, it sounds like you're on it like a car bonnet and have a plan of attack to make sure the spring grass doesn't make her go pop. And she looks much better in her coat and brighter of eye. She's a lovely old girl and I wish the pair of you every happiness together :)

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Well, shoot me dead, too. She looks amazing, and the difference (improvement) is astounding. Well done JAL.

Don't get carried away - now you've hit on the magic formula, it might carry on working harder than you want! But you know that ;)
 
Well jadey, you must be pleased that it isn't you getting a slating on this thread at least!

I'm so sorry to have offended half the forum apparently, but I would rather be hated for speaking out when I don't agree than be a forum sheep...
 
big pat on the back from me

well done girl, be proud of yourself, its hard enough trying to keep weight on our golden oldies and they can drop it in a blink of an eye.

she looks happy and healthy so just enjoy her and take the sarky comments with a pinch of salt, youve done yourself proud
 
I think you have done REALLY well with Lady, she looks great. Considering you have been given such a hard time by some people on this forum, I also think you are extremely brave coming back to show everyone the progress you have made with your lovely horse. You should be proud of yourself - I don't know a lot of people your age who would go to the trouble you so obviously have to ensure the health of an old horse. Thanks for sharing. And everything of the best for you both in the future.
 
I keep looking for this awful gutter down her back but I think it may be the light??
Anyway.......
Jadey-she looks ace. Ok so she may be carrying a little more weight than the keyboard crusading experts like but she looks like a differeny horse. She looks ten years younger and has a gleam in her eye. I have every faith in you.
If I call recall you only had the field to ride in? A field that you probably have not used over the winter period...therefore little exercise?
I'm pretty sure that now the lighter nights are here Lady will be getting more exercise so the little extra she is carrying will soon fall off.
I know from juggling oldies in the past that they lose weight at the drop of a hat so carrying a little extra before work starts is not really a crime. It soon goes.

Well done girl.
 
JFTD said:
Well jadey, you must be pleased that it isn't you getting a slating on this thread at least!

I'm so sorry to have offended half the forum apparently, but I would rather be hated for speaking out when I don't agree than be a forum sheep...
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It's not the disagreeing that got people's backs up though... it was the sarky format your opinion was delivered in.

There are nice ways to say you think the horse is carrying too much weight (as other people on this thread have managed) and there is the rude and condescending way you decided to go about it with a rather horrid sarcastic tone.

Before anyone says it, yes it's a public forum and you can say what you want, how you want but clearly I'm not the only one who has been sitting on my hands recently. I'll back away now before I get pulled into a sarky debate about freedom of speech, doubtless full of ;) icons.
 
JFTD said:
I'd be pleased if the horse condition scored in the "healthy" range of 2-3.5 (as defined by vets and WHW etc) :rolleyes: She looks to me on the wrong side of 4 - and that makes her as bad, if not worse than she was when she scored between 1 and 2 last year :confused:

As I say, people seem to think "fat" is right these days.
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Maybe you should reflect on your own photo's and stop giving OP a hard time........
 
Honestly if you find me so offensive use the 'user ignore' function - that is what it is there for. There was nothing sarcastic about my comments on this thread. My original comment was merely shock that anyone can take the idea that their hrse is fat so lightly as the op did in her original post.
 
(broken post as on phone)
However since you all find me so distasteful I will go and lurk elsewhere in the forum where my comments are appreciated and not presumed to be wantonly rude.
 
Meandtheboys my highland condition scores as a 3 by both myself, other owners and my vet, I don't know what you mean.
 
millitiger said:
It's not the disagreeing that got people's backs up though... it was the sarky format your opinion was delivered in.

There are nice ways to say you think the horse is carrying too much weight (as other people on this thread have managed) and there is the rude and condescending way you decided to go about it with a rather horrid sarcastic tone.

Before anyone says it, yes it's a public forum and you can say what you want, how you want but clearly I'm not the only one who has been sitting on my hands recently. I'll back away now before I get pulled into a sarky debate about freedom of speech, doubtless full of ;) icons.
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Agree and Pushes like button
 
JFTD said:
(broken post as on phone)
However since you all find me so distasteful I will go and lurk elsewhere in the forum where my comments are appreciated and not presumed to be wantonly rude.
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FWIW I didn't find your post particularly sarky or rude - just straight to the point really.
 
JAL, well done. I know I'm not the first to say how much of a slating you got the last couple of times you've posted but I have always admired your tenacity and determination.

Maybe she is a little porky, but what do I know, all I see is that you have made a massive effort and clearly worked really hard. I'm sure that a lot of weight will drop off as she gets an increased work load.

You are a brave lass and Lady a lovely little horse :)
 
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Hmm. Whw condition scoring eh?

Damn, I wish I'd realised, I need to read/follow literature set out by an organisation to own/care for mine :rolleyes:

While were at it, anyone got a carrot stick and rope with a big clip?

Don't really think the old doll needs a score of any sort. Leave her be.

Times like now make my initial feeling about posting pics and asking for advice on our TB ring home. I'm glad I didn't.
 
I remember years ago when jade originally came on the forum and lady didnt look good. Honest opinion. I havent read all the replies but she is fat. Jade, you need to get on top of this before the spring grass comes through . I know. I have an old draught who is a fatty. Its a nightmare. Restricted grazing is needed. I would say she would score 5 just now, looking at her bum. Exercise will sort it. But asap. Good luck. P.s if anyone takes offence at this. Tough. I am giving advice.
 
Hedgewitch13 said:
OP just can't win with some of you can she?

The mare is looking far better than before. She isn't exactly obese! I would however be very watchful with the spring grass coming through Jadey - you may need to restrict her grazing so she doesn't get really lardy.

And sarky comments (made by others) are not very mature either.
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this! ^^

she's looking well for an old lady and to have come through the winter looking well is no bad thing. I agree that OP needs to keep a careful eye on her over the next couple of months with the spring grass... but that's much easier than trying to pile weight on in the winter!
 
JFTD said:
Honestly if you find me so offensive use the 'user ignore' function - that is what it is there for. There was nothing sarcastic about my comments on this thread. My original comment was merely shock that anyone can take the idea that their hrse is fat so lightly as the op did in her original post.
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I never knew there was such a thing as a user ignore function! You learn something everyday.

Don't be over sensitive - people are offering you advice as you offer advice to others. You either don't care if you offend or need to give more thought to how you phrase your suggestions.
 
JFTD said:
Honestly if you find me so offensive use the 'user ignore' function - that is what it is there for. There was nothing sarcastic about my comments on this thread. My original comment was merely shock that anyone can take the idea that their hrse is fat so lightly as the op did in her original post.
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As has been said time and again, it's the way you say it, not necessarily what you say.

Maybe you should read your text before committing to the return button :eek::D:p
 
Seriously, what the hell is up with all of this scoring malarkey?

OP, do you really mind what "score" this horse has?

More to the point how do score a horse off a picture? Sounds a little like the AC's reading through a picture to me...
 
guido16 said:
I remember years ago when jade originally came on the forum and lady didnt look good. Honest opinion. I havent read all the replies but she is fat. Jade, you need to get on top of this before the spring grass comes through . I know. I have an old draught who is a fatty. Its a nightmare. Restricted grazing is needed. I would say she would score 5 just now, looking at her bum. Exercise will sort it. But asap. Good luck. P.s if anyone takes offence at this. Tough. I am giving advice.
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Sensible answer. IMO it is just as difficult to get weight off, particularly with an oldie who may not be able to exercise as much as a younger one. My mare is slightly porky and she is on fibre diet only - and it is very hard to keep her weight down. She isn't anywhere near as porky as the one in the pics (if of course they are a true representation which they aren't always), so if I was OP I would be trying to address the issue asap.

Not a criticism of OP she has obviously really tried her best, but a little guidance helped her last time so hopefully it will this time!

:)
 
mountainview22 said:
Seriously, what the hell is up with all of this scoring malarkey?

OP, do you really mind what "score" this horse has?

More to the point how do score a horse off a picture? Sounds a little like the AC's reading through a picture to me...
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..Err well yes she should care what score her horse is on! Would you say that if a horse was on score 1 out of 10 and was emaciated?!! It is a decent guideline which people should be paying attention to.
 
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