Tokyo Pentathlon SJ

[OrangeAndLemon]

Well done to Belaud from France, very nice ride.

 

[milliepops]

case in point, french athlete jumping the combination with one stirrup, no issue. some of the others would have toppled off on the approach.

 

[Kadastorm]

Belaud is a nice rider, shame he got unbalanced and lost his stirrup.

 

[Rowreach]

Might as well just get rid of the sport altogether in that case !!
Make the riders pass an assessment and alter their standing accordingly. But if you get rid of the riding then it becomes a different sport altogether

In terms of horse welfare, why would that be a problem?

 

[piebaldproblems]

Might as well just get rid of the sport altogether in that case !!
Make the riders pass an assessment and alter their standing accordingly. But if you get rid of the riding then it becomes a different sport altogether

Couldn't they replace it with some hand-to-hand combat though, like boxing or wrestling?

 

[Rowreach]

yeah agreed. I think it's OK for the horses to be the "tools" which they must be, because the athletes have no involvement with them beyond their 20 min slot... *provided* they are adequately competent. It's really obvious which of them have put enough into their riding training, and the others should be doing the same.

But this element of the sport has been a disgrace for decades and absolutely nothing has been done to change it. I very much hope it changes now. I hate seeing horses used like this, then blamed for destroying someone’s Olympic hopes 🙄😕😕

 

[pistolpete]

Argh last Frenchman can’t even hold the reins correctly!

 

[cold_feet]

Does MP exist outside of the olympics?

 

[piebaldproblems]

This Austrian was nice, minimal interference with the horse's way of going which is presumably the best way of riding an unknown horse.

 

[pistolpete]

Lovely ride on Aerosmith!

 

[Turitea]

re cold_feet's question: Yes, of course. MP just "lives a life" in the shadow of all other sports between the Olympic Games.

 

[piebaldproblems]

Ukrainian has messy equitation but again didn't seem to be causing horse much upset. That said, this Brit doesn't look too clean a rider either.

 

[pistolpete]

Not impressed by the Brit flapping about. Not that I could do any better!

 

[Kadastorm]

Think Jamie had to work for that as the horse was behind the leg.

 

[OrangeAndLemon]

GB rider wasnt as polished as some of the others but I thought he was effective.

 

[Kadastorm]

but he also didn’t interfere with the horse over the jump, have with his hands

 

[piebaldproblems]

Don't like this guy at all, very harsh hands and a very swishy tail.

 

[cold_feet]

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Ukrainian has messy equitation but again didn't seem to be causing horse much upset. That said, this Brit doesn't look too clean a rider either.

thank you. Just can’t get my head around how all these events get organised!

 

[milliepops]

GB rider wasnt as polished as some of the others but I thought he was effective.

yeah. much less wincing on behalf of the horses today i think. a little messy but not causing the horse a problem is *Ok* in this sport i think.. in my mind these are a bit like RS horses in terms of what they are getting from the riders - some better than others?

 

[milliepops]

this korean rider is looking pretty decent

 

[Kadastorm]

Floriet is a wonderful horse and being given a lovely ride.

 

[milliepops]

Floriet is a wonderful horse and being given a lovely ride.

yes. pity about the pole because that was a really nice round.

 

[piebaldproblems]

Lots of mouth opening and closing with this horse, but at least it doesn't have a flash.

Edit: and very happy to see how thankful rider is to horse

 

[fetlock]

Though it's car crash viewing, I do enjoy the pentathlon showjumping, when I remember it's on.
Perhaps they need to drop the fence heights by a pole and perhaps take out the treble.
It's far from the easiest of courses for a novice rider, especially when they're on a strange horse.

 

[Kadastorm]

Liking this round from Yan Kuf too!

 

[milliepops]

Though it's car crash viewing, I do enjoy the pentathlon showjumping, when I remember it's on.
Perhaps they need to drop the fence heights by a pole and perhaps take out the treble.
It's far from the easiest of courses for a novice rider, especially when they're on a strange horse.

I don't think I'd want it to be easier. the standard of riding needs to be increased. the athletes that are good riders make it look pretty straightforward. if the fences were lower then there would be less incentive to improve. How we lowly HHOers get the MP powers that be to work on that somehow, i have no idea though!!

 

[Kadastorm]

So far, I have 8 on a list of competitors that (in my opinion) were not up to the standard. Not saying others weren’t messy but the rest gave with their hands and didn’t interfere too much, allowing the horses to do their job. I do think that they shouldn’t wear spurs because alot of them do not have the lower leg control that’s needed to use them safely.

 

[fetlock]

Another very honest horse, getting them out of trouble so many times.

 

[piebaldproblems]

I don't think any of the SJ events should have spurs as the norm. You can't argue that they're using them for 'refinement' like in the dressage.

 

[fetlock]

Oh dear, put your whip away