Update : he did it again

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So gutted . He bolted again today . Nothing taken away and I was on the yard watching him and he had his had down grazing as he had been all morning buddy #2 was next to him and buddy #1 the other side . Turned my back and heard a bang and Hed tried to jump the 5ft metal gate , succeeded but dented it and he was off past all his buddies past all my other horses in a straight line over another 4.5ft post and rail fence and into the neighbours field in the same general direction as before - the road . There was a horse in neighbours field but he ignored him and jumped 2 more of neighbours post and electric away from their horse before pulling up lame next to the road . It took us 20 mins to catch him but got him in the end . He didnt want to come near us . If he hadn't hurt himself he would have kept going . again I'm at a loss to explain why he did this if he was anxious for company surely he would have gone to his buddies not away from them . Or been calling or generally unsettled . Its weird he did the same thing as last time a straight line bolt and away from the security of the other horses and the yard . He's cut his knee as has a fat hock. He wasnt jumping to get in with other horses it just seemed like he wanted to leave .

I'm starting to think he doesn't like me lol ! But the upside is that I know he can jump ! Downside is he's now lame so more vet bills on the way and I'm now seriously concerned about wethet he will ever come right . It had all been going so well .


Wine please !
 
Seriously, having followed your story right through, I'd spend only a little more money on an ulcer scoping and then have the horse put down if you find none.

That is truly crazy behaviour and you could not pay me any money that would make me sit on it.
 
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Oh no :(

Something sounds seriously not right with this horse. I would get the vet out to do a full work up and see if there is anything at all physically wrong that might be causing this. If psychological I'm afraid there would only be one answer for me. No one could blame you.

Really sorry to hear this after the progress you were making.
 
Oh no! I thought he was doing so well, such a shame hes done it again!
sounds like something wrong mentally to me, to just suddenly go with no rhyme or reason :S but don't listen to me, I'm no expert!!
hope you can sort him :(
 
How awful. And it was all going so well. Do you think that something in his head is triggering this behaviour? There doesn't seem to be an environmental problem.

I do really feel for you, he sounds quite dangerous and I would be very suspicious of the lack of info from his former owner.

No help from me, sorry. I wish you well and hope he heals soon.
 
Wouldn't be happy with this at all, I would be worried about him causing an accident for others. If I couldn't contain him while I found out what was wrong with him, I'd put him down.
 
My worry would also be for an innocent walker, adult or child, who may easily get seriously injured. I would consider PTS as it doesn't sound completely sane behaviour even for a horse.
 
Oh no, just when you thought it was going so well :(

Are you still pursuing returning him to his old owners? I think you would have every right to take him back.

If not then I would be very concerned about this behaviour and seriously be thinking about his future.
 
oh no :( sounds very odd to bolt from the field :\ so sorry OP it sounded like you had turned a corner with him in your last posts but now it's back to square one, how upsetting
 
I am so sorry.........

When you have the vet out have a good discussion - it could be pain related or a neurological problem, and I know brain tumours can make horses behave very irrationally. I am not suggesting he has any of these one but are things to consider.

Tbh if you don't find an explanation pdq I would be looking at pts - otherwise he could seriously damage himself, or others, and you will have to live with that on your conscience.

Poor you and poor horse and what a sh**ty situation to be in.
 
Well I agree with the others he has had his chance and he would be safer and happier to quietly go to sleep permanently He sounds like he may have a serious problem possibly a brain tumour
 
Very upsetting and ive wracked my brains to try and undetstand why he's doing this and I can't think of anything that Would have set him off . There were no cars or traffic or loud noises to upset him and everything was peaceful and quiet . It's almost like he got stung or something to go from that settled and happy to blind bolt . But there are no insects here ! And it's amazing that he ran past / away from the other horses and yard and an exact straight line from field gate to next door . Neighbour have been particularly understanding considering he took down 2 of their fences churned up their field and set their horse off although I may be Cadbury roses best customer by now . I could understand it is he just jumped fences to another horse but he didn't he jumped away from both mine and the neighbours.

I am desperately trying to remain positive in this situation by looming at bright sides but in seriously struggling .
 
Havent commented before but I have been following your updates. Really sorry to hear this after you did seem to be making good progress. I think the sad fact is that you have a horse with issues that you werent expecting to be dealing with, whatever the reasons for that (and you may never get to the bottom of it). It does sound like a potentially dangerous situation, both for you and any innocent bystander who happens to get in the way. Unless you have the funds and/or inclination to have the very best vets try and find the cause (and Im fairly sure there will be a neurological issue from the random nature of his behaviour) I would PTS. If you are able to pursue the sellers for miss selling, then so much the better, but I dont now whether this would ever be provable. I do feel for you though, must be an awful situation to find yourself in x
 
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Oh no :(

Something sounds seriously not right with this horse. I would get the vet out to do a full work up and see if there is anything at all physically wrong that might be causing this. If psychological I'm afraid there would only be one answer for me. No one could blame you.

Really sorry to hear this after the progress you were making.
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This. I'm so sorry OP you had done so well. You must be so gutted :(
 
Poor you, I feel for you in this situation. Trouble is, this is not normal horse behaviour. They jump fences and escape if they want company, or are hungry, or very frightened. To bolt away from familiar surroundings is unusualy. To not want to stay with other horses is unusual.

The "very frightened" might be the answer, but what is causing this? Sudden pain somewhere, he is running away from it? Is his eyesight not right? What a horrid situation to be in.
 
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Very upsetting and ive wracked my brains to try and undetstand why he's doing this and I can't think of anything that Would have set him off . There were no cars or traffic or loud noises to upset him and everything was peaceful and quiet . It's almost like he got stung or something to go from that settled and happy to blind bolt . But there are no insects here ! And it's amazing that he ran past / away from the other horses and yard and an exact straight line from field gate to next door . Neighbour have been particularly understanding considering he took down 2 of their fences churned up their field and set their horse off although I may be Cadbury roses best customer by now . I could understand it is he just jumped fences to another horse but he didn't he jumped away from both mine and the neighbours.

I am desperately trying to remain positive in this situation by looming at bright sides but in seriously struggling .
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DA it doesn't really matter why he did it. It's seriously disturbed and dangerous behaviour even if there was a trigger. And any trigger could happen again, and next time he may hurt or kill someone.

Personally, I'd spend no more money on this horse, nor would I risk anyone finding out that he will also do it ridden.
 
I was really pleased for you when he seemed to be settling but after this cut your loses and PTS. You will never really trust him and its going to be a lot of heartache if he does it again and injures a bystander. I have a four year old 14.2 cob type that I have not had time to break that I would gladly give you if he goes.
 
I found a suspect fb post by the seller talking about a horse bolting but they told me categorically he did not bolt . Might have been him or might not . Hes been green and a bit strong and slightly nappy ridden I put it down to change of tack and spent last night ordering new bit and bridle . Sigh . The I Lu weird thing he does that I have seen is roll his eyes upwards - I've never seen it before in a non appy horse and I don't mean while yawning but when just standing there his pupils will roll skywards .
Will be speaking to vet tomorrow . I have some savings but I don't want to go down the road of expensive investigations to find the outcome will be the same . I can't put my finger what the trigger is I Inspected the field he had hay and grazing didn't act frightened when we caught him wasn't shaking or snorting and went back in his box .
 
Oh my goodness honeypot u have just teared up at your post that is very generous . Yes it is true I can't afford to replace if he does go so that is very sweet .

Going to speak to the vet about next steps .
 
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I found a suspect fb post by the seller talking about a horse bolting but they told me categorically he did not bolt . Might have been him or might not . Hes been green and a bit strong and slightly nappy ridden I put it down to change of tack and spent last night ordering new bit and bridle . Sigh . The I Lu weird thing he does that I have seen is roll his eyes upwards - I've never seen it before in a non appy horse and I don't mean while yawning but when just standing there his pupils will roll skywards .
Will be speaking to vet tomorrow . I have some savings but I don't want to go down the road of expensive investigations to find the outcome will be the same . I can't put my finger what the trigger is I Inspected the field he had hay and grazing didn't act frightened when we caught him wasn't shaking or snorting and went back in his box .
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Is it possible he has some form of seizure? Be worth asking the vet and if unfortunately if it is there will only be one treatment and that be PTS
 
You've done the right thing by this horse up until now, you have given him a second chance and taken things slowly.

Given he is an intended sell on in your shoes I would be calling the hunt tomorrow. It would hurt me to do it but I think you need to cut your losses. Your time and money would be better spent on a safer horse.

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have a good honest talk with the vet, but no one will blame you if you decide PTS is the way to go, a bolting horse with no self preservation instinct is too big a risk.x
 
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I am so sorry , I think a second chance was a fair thing to give him but I personally don't think I would give him a third .
I would speak to the vet and see what they have to say about the eye rolling thing but I would not bankrupt myself over him.
You could try return him and attempt to get your money back I think I would PTS before someone get hurt.
Poor horse it's very sad .
 
I thought you were so good to give him a second chance, but imo this is not normal horse behaviour. I hope you can get some recompense and I'd be asking a few pertinent questions from the seller. So sad, but this horse is a danger to himself and others. Sorry OP.
 
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honetpot said:
I was really pleased for you when he seemed to be settling but after this cut your loses and PTS. You will never really trust him and its going to be a lot of heartache if he does it again and injures a bystander. I have a four year old 14.2 cob type that I have not had time to break that I would gladly give you if he goes.
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That is a lovely kind thing. Its nice to see that kindness is not lost
 
Oh my goodness what a nightmare. The first time you could put down to nerves at new yard and bad luck but now it's becoming very weird. See what the vet says but I think you may have to make a tough decision. I am so sorry.
 
So sorry to hear he has done it again, I offered before safe secure fields with permanent company and if you think it will make a difference then the offer stands but........I also would be considering pts at this point after speaking with the vet, in an way you are lucky u witnessed it as you now know that there seems to be no real environmental trigger.

Tbh if he wants out then my hedges and big ditches won't stop him either. Can't remember if you are close to the dealer you bought from, only thought is he is trying to go back there (still doesn't make any real sense though as does it out of blue).
 
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