fatpiggy
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My mare has a dint in her right buttock - I know exactly how it was caused! A very nasty mare double-barrelled her. The result was a melon-sized lump which once it had all gone left the dint.
urgent info wanted *not been stolen*
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samandcasper
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Naryafluffy.... do u have any links to anywhere tht i can maybe contact them with his numbers xx
aintgotnohay
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To the OP ive not read all the posts but did you have a valid passport with him??? that would tell you his oold owners.hope you didnt purchase him without one.
samandcasper
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aintgotnohay
yes i did but the 1st 4 pages with all info on him and old owners are ripped out of it.. there isnt 1 word at all in it x
yes i did but the 1st 4 pages with all info on him and old owners are ripped out of it.. there isnt 1 word at all in it x
Naryafluffy
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It was someone I work with (who is polish) that said some of the horses had this, I've managed to confirm through http://www.horsedata.co.uk/horse_brands.htm this is the address from the website (there isn't a picture of the brand, but the details are just above the Rhienland brand looks like antlers)
Polish Warmblood (Wielkopolski):
Polish foals born in a national stud farm have a numerical brand under the saddle:
The right side is the number of stud farm.
The left side is the foal's number.
Foals from private breeders (regional breeding) are branded on the left leg (thigh).
Okregowy Zwiazek Hodowcow Koni
Association of Horse Breeders
Podwale 23
00-261 Warszawa
Tel. 022-8312178
samandcasper
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ahh yeah i found this page out in a random google search lol just cant find a pic of his brand anywhere, only place i did was in 1st few post when a ady has the same on her horse and thts what leads me to believe me tht its the same a hungirain lipp xx
samandcasper
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anyone who comented recenlty have any news xx
tinap
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Have you seen this forum & similar marks? http://www.enlightenedequitation.co...f8a27272f954df6ed0433c3072c9725&topic=42703.0
Really hope you find out about him. I have full passport & contact with previous owner & it still drives me nuts that I can't find out more!! Good luck xx
Really hope you find out about him. I have full passport & contact with previous owner & it still drives me nuts that I can't find out more!! Good luck xx
DebbieCG
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samandcasper - your boy is so lovely and glad he's got such a good home with you.
I have posted once or twice on this thread, but it was just to say again have you perhaps tried putting photos showing him and his brand on the Intelligent Horsemanship site, or perhaps try getting in touch with Tracing Equines to see if they have a suitable place on their site where you could ask if anyone recognises his brand and what type of breed he is.
Sorry if you've already done these things, think I mentioned IH site previously. Or how about trying to show him on a Belgium horse site, we sometimes have visitors on the H&H forum, so I'm sure they'd welcome you or direct you to a helpful site from another European country.
Best of luck with finding the info you're looking for.
I have posted once or twice on this thread, but it was just to say again have you perhaps tried putting photos showing him and his brand on the Intelligent Horsemanship site, or perhaps try getting in touch with Tracing Equines to see if they have a suitable place on their site where you could ask if anyone recognises his brand and what type of breed he is.
Sorry if you've already done these things, think I mentioned IH site previously. Or how about trying to show him on a Belgium horse site, we sometimes have visitors on the H&H forum, so I'm sure they'd welcome you or direct you to a helpful site from another European country.
Best of luck with finding the info you're looking for.
Naryafluffy
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The pictures of the branding look very similar to the Hungarian Lippi, wonder if the OP has contacted the person offering to help with the Hungarian stud book, or if this was another dead end as this was posted back in December?
samandcasper
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yeah this post was created by someone to help me lol i joined to post my comment but after being accepted i still cant post comments ect
...samandcasper
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DebbieCG... thanks again yeah have them few ppl on my facebook and have been getting bit of help from them
BUT!!! I'VE HAD A MESSAGE OFF SOMEONE FROM A FACEBOOK GROUP THT OWNED HIM MESSGE SAYS......
Hi, his name is or was bobby it was changed to winter. A lady at my yard got him from Tom in October 2009 he was a right state she did not get on with him at all and just stop coming up the yard.he got really Sick needed the vet but the women just did not Care, so I ended up looking after him, got the vet out he had a chest infection, worms, very bad feet and very under weight. By January he looked alot better we started light exercise but he had a bad back had the back lady out and after a few visits big improvement. I can honestly say that he was the sweetest horse so so loving in Feb the women turned up out of the blue after 4 months of me and yard owner trying to get hold of her and after me spending more then £2000 to get him better she said she was moving him to Devon with her sister who had land down there. I was so angry and heart broken offered to buy him but she said no. I phoned the RSPCA as I really did not think she should be allowed to have him after just leaving him but they said nothing they could do. So she took him. I had no idea she sent him back to Tom that is where she got him from in the 1 st please why on earth not just sale him to me. Why put him through all that again. I managed to get hold of his old owners he came from a riding school in Norfolk but they sold him at some horse sales as they said he was not a novice ride they said he used to buck. I also saw photos of him when they had him he used to have a very long mane but they cut it of as they said he had sweet itch. I cried so much over him i can't believe that women I am so happy he is ok.
yeah have them few ppl on my facebook and have been getting bit of help from themBUT!!! I'VE HAD A MESSAGE OFF SOMEONE FROM A FACEBOOK GROUP THT OWNED HIM MESSGE SAYS......
Hi, his name is or was bobby it was changed to winter. A lady at my yard got him from Tom in October 2009 he was a right state she did not get on with him at all and just stop coming up the yard.he got really Sick needed the vet but the women just did not Care, so I ended up looking after him, got the vet out he had a chest infection, worms, very bad feet and very under weight. By January he looked alot better we started light exercise but he had a bad back had the back lady out and after a few visits big improvement. I can honestly say that he was the sweetest horse so so loving in Feb the women turned up out of the blue after 4 months of me and yard owner trying to get hold of her and after me spending more then £2000 to get him better she said she was moving him to Devon with her sister who had land down there. I was so angry and heart broken offered to buy him but she said no. I phoned the RSPCA as I really did not think she should be allowed to have him after just leaving him but they said nothing they could do. So she took him. I had no idea she sent him back to Tom that is where she got him from in the 1 st please why on earth not just sale him to me. Why put him through all that again. I managed to get hold of his old owners he came from a riding school in Norfolk but they sold him at some horse sales as they said he was not a novice ride they said he used to buck. I also saw photos of him when they had him he used to have a very long mane but they cut it of as they said he had sweet itch. I cried so much over him i can't believe that women I am so happy he is ok.
gingerthing
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I wonder which riding school in norfolk he was from?
DebbieCG
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Hi again samandcasper Just had a glance at some of the very helpful replies here although haven't read all the thread, so sorry if I've missed any suggestions, but have you had him checked for a microchip by a vet?
One poster mentioned about checking with the (2) UK freezebranding companies here to see if they might have an idea what the brand looks like - they would be very knowleageable of European brands too i would imagine and perhaps could point you in the right direction.
I think there was also a suggestion that his brand looks like part of a herd branding and that may have been mentionioned on the other sites you have him listed? It is such an unusual and crude brand, it does almost look home done.
I'm sure if you persist long enough you will find answers here on H&H or elsewhere. I recall there was someone from Belgium or Holland that came on the forum looking to see if anyone knew where her previous show jumping horse was and the forum came up with the current owner and video clips of the horse competing on the show jumping circuit!
One poster mentioned about checking with the (2) UK freezebranding companies here to see if they might have an idea what the brand looks like - they would be very knowleageable of European brands too i would imagine and perhaps could point you in the right direction.
I think there was also a suggestion that his brand looks like part of a herd branding and that may have been mentionioned on the other sites you have him listed? It is such an unusual and crude brand, it does almost look home done.
I'm sure if you persist long enough you will find answers here on H&H or elsewhere. I recall there was someone from Belgium or Holland that came on the forum looking to see if anyone knew where her previous show jumping horse was and the forum came up with the current owner and video clips of the horse competing on the show jumping circuit!
DebbieCG
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Also hope you can glean some info from the person you has messaged you on FB. If you can find out from them which riding school/owners who had him for a while that would be great
samandcasper
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had him scaned but didnt come up with anything she was a traniee vet so may have missed it, going to try againwhen vet is out next month,
gingerthing.. this is my next mission now.. have had mre info aswell from lady with 4 other messages xx
gingerthing.. this is my next mission now.. have had mre info aswell from lady with 4 other messages
xxKrujaaLass
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What a sad story. So glad he is in a good home now
gingerthing
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Myself and others on here are in norfolk so keep us posted if you do find outhad him scaned but didnt come up with anything she was a traniee vet so may have missed it, going to try againwhen vet is out next month,
gingerthing.. this is my next mission now.. have had mre info aswell from lady with 4 other messages
samandcasper
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Myself and others on here are in norfolk so keep us posted if you do find out
dont suppose u can give me any names of ones u know, or is that a long shot lol xx
gingerthing
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Weston park (formerly Top farm untill the late 90s), keswick riding school, red hall, manor farm, there was a meadow farm rs which closed in the late 90s. I think there was a Brampton stables (?).
There are other riding schools around here but these are the main ones I know of
There are other riding schools around here but these are the main ones I know of
samandcasper
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Weston park (formerly Top farm untill the late 90s), keswick riding school, red hall, manor farm, there was a meadow farm rs which closed in the late 90s. I think there was a Brampton stables (?).
There are other riding schools around here but these are the main ones I know of
wicked thanks i'll google them for numbers and give them a call all they can say is no he werent there lol xx whoo hoo woman on a mission lol x
samandcasper
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soz dont have a pen to hand so using this as a bit of paper lol
http://keswickridingstables.co.uk/
01603 451526
Red Hall Liveries Beeston Road, Beeston, Norwich, Norfolk, NR12, Tel : 01603 417174
http://keswickridingstables.co.uk/
01603 451526
Red Hall Liveries Beeston Road, Beeston, Norwich, Norfolk, NR12, Tel : 01603 417174
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wallykissmas
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Strumpshaw riding school is Norfolk. if you could find out roughly where in Norfolk might enable a fe people to think of the older schools that might have closed down.
samandcasper
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thank you will try, the lady hasnt replied back in a few days so just waiting now xx
DebbieCG
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Hi Samandcasper
Hope things are progressing with finding out more about your horse.
I have just sent you a pm, as some time ago I saw a German based equine establishment website that has branches in other European countries too, so I sent an email to them asking if they may be able to help see where your horse may originate from.
They have just replied to me, so I thought it best to pm you first and give the details of what they think, in the hope it may help you decipher a little more where your horse could be from.
Hope the info helps a bit.
Hope things are progressing with finding out more about your horse.
I have just sent you a pm, as some time ago I saw a German based equine establishment website that has branches in other European countries too, so I sent an email to them asking if they may be able to help see where your horse may originate from.
They have just replied to me, so I thought it best to pm you first and give the details of what they think, in the hope it may help you decipher a little more where your horse could be from.
Hope the info helps a bit.
brighteyes
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There was a riding school in West Runton near Cromer which has closed down - maybe he was there? How exciting you think you have traced a little more of his history
Dovorian
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KWPN passport would indicate Dutch breeding, I don't thin that there is a stags horn in their brand. I also remember an imported (Russian, I think) that had a brand under it's saddle area, perhaps it is done for aesthetic reasons - as we do with freezemarks?
TBH I dont think that the dealer is being totally straight, but who cares if the horse has a permanant home now.
TBH I dont think that the dealer is being totally straight, but who cares if the horse has a permanant home now.
DebbieCG
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Agree with Dovorian above.
I have pm'd and sent email to samandcasper with some other info I gleaned, but no reply yet, so sure she won't mind if I post this info now here.
I asked a German based equine establishment, via their website horsedream (which has other European branches) if they may recognise the branding and breed type. They kindly said they would ask in their newsletter and I have rec'd the following reply from them:
"the horse you want some informationes about is an original lipizzan horse
from hungaria. May be from Szilvasvarad.
I hope I could help you with my answer."
If anyone could give samandcasper more advice on perhaps how to follow up this info, that would be helpful.
Anyway, hope samandcasper see these recent posts.
I have pm'd and sent email to samandcasper with some other info I gleaned, but no reply yet, so sure she won't mind if I post this info now here.
I asked a German based equine establishment, via their website horsedream (which has other European branches) if they may recognise the branding and breed type. They kindly said they would ask in their newsletter and I have rec'd the following reply from them:
"the horse you want some informationes about is an original lipizzan horse
from hungaria. May be from Szilvasvarad.
I hope I could help you with my answer."
If anyone could give samandcasper more advice on perhaps how to follow up this info, that would be helpful.
Anyway, hope samandcasper see these recent posts.
DebbieCG
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Further to above, one other idea, thinking laterally, could the 'L' stand for Lipizan or something like that, rather than 'Loss of Use', as referred to at the beginning of this post?
Try looking at this website: www.lipizzan.atspace.com
Try looking at this website: www.lipizzan.atspace.com
DebbieCG
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Just found a Hungarian website regarding Lipizzaner Private Breeders Association in Szilvasvard (sp) and if you go to it their Logo appears to be stag horns with 'L' in the middle - looks fairly similar to samandcasper photos of branding.
www.lipicailo.hu
Sorry if the earlier website does not go directly to correct intended site.
www.lipicailo.hu
Sorry if the earlier website does not go directly to correct intended site.