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Please can anybody help. I am involved with a group who bring dogs over to the UK who are either very badly treated or live on the street in Romania - some with dreadful injuries. Last Sunday a number of dogs were brought over and at the collection point, Thurrock Motorway Services, Grays, Essex, a lady was there saying that she was collecting Tasha. Nobdoy questioned her as she knew all the groups name, where Tasha was destined for etc. She said her name was Jan. Very sady this lady has stolen Tasha as she never arrived at her new home. There is a page on Facebook entitled Lets Find Tasha where all the information about her can be found. Can I please ask all of you to have a look at this page and if anybody has a neighbour who has a new dog since last Sunday who looks like Tasha please let me know. I would be very grateful. Thank you so much. We all just want her found.
 
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Surely Thurrock Services is covered by lots of CCTV cameras, can the police help? If they went south over the Dartford Crossing they would have been on camera again.
I take it the woman must be known to someone if she had lots of info about the handover in the first place.
 
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Why bring in another country's strays when UK pounds are allegedly full to bursting?

Sorry one of them has been taken . My bet is it will be somebody who you know if she had so much info on the dog.
 
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quirky said:
Why bring in another country's strays when UK pounds are allegedly full to bursting?

Sorry one of them has been taken . My bet is it will be somebody who you know if she had so much info on the dog.
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I absolutely agree with this, if this lady asked for Tasha by name then its obvious its someone in the Know.

Hope you find her soon.
 
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Thank you for your comments police have been informed and cctv is being checked. Sadly it all times time and she has been missing a week now.

For the person who said about lots of dogs over in this country needing homes this is very true but if you could see the conditions that these dogs are kept in in Romania then you would understand, they are left to roam the streets, hit by cars and just left to drag broken legs until either caught by the dog catchers who are nothing but brutes and thrown into public shelters where they are fed once a week and just left in their own faeces and urine. Thank God this country is slightly better than this. That's why they need our help to get them out of the hell hole they are in. I am so proud to be part of this organisation and have two coming over next weekend - one whose leg was so badly broken and had been for the vet thinks about a year that sadly it had to be amputated. At least he will now hopefully have a good life.
 
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I hope you find her but I can't help thinking that the time and money spent in bringing the dogs over to this country would be better spent educating the people of Romania, improving the rescue centers over there and spaying/castrating the street dogs so that the problem doesn't continue.

Whilst you may be improving the life of the dogs you bring over I think the bigger picture needs looking at to try and improve things for all the dogs over there, not just a select few.
 
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Sorry to say that it's a cruel culture in Romania reknowned for stealing donated equipment for the orphanages and you won't educate the people - maybe in generations to come but certainly not quickly imo. Surely better to spey and castrate all the street dogs to try to minimise the cruelty? Even the adoptions by British couples of Romanian children failed spectacularly because the culture is so very inbred the children were impossible to parent.
 
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You are quite right and the people I am involved with are doing their best to collect the dogs up and have the girls sterilized and the boys castrated. They are working so hard over there. The government will do nothing and today they have issued pictures of dogs that have been collected and gassed and packed in plastic bags. Heaps of plastic bags. It is going to take decades to educate these people.

Surely it is better to help some than none as we all know nothing will be done in the country for years to come.
 
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soots said:
a lady was there saying that she was collecting Tasha. Nobdoy questioned her as she knew all the groups name, where Tasha was destined for etc. She said her name was Jan.
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Sad as it is that Tasha has gone missing. Hopefully your rescue group will learn from this and confirm that the ID of the person collecting the dogs is correct before handing them over. Knowing all the groups names is not a form of ID and does not make a person trustworthy. Did your rescue group not even know who was collecting this dog? Doesn't sound very professional if they didn't.
 
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You are quite right and the people I am involved with are doing their best to collect the dogs up and have the girls sterilized and the boys castrated. They are working so hard over there. The government will do nothing and today they have issued pictures of dogs that have been collected and gassed and packed in plastic bags. Heaps of plastic bags. It is going to take decades to educate these people.

Surely it is better to help some than none as we all know nothing will be done in the country for years to come.
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So why not offer to humanely euthanise the homeless dogs instead of spending money shipping a few?
 
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soots said:
today they have issued pictures of dogs that have been collected and gassed and packed in plastic bags. Heaps of plastic bags. It is going to take decades to educate these people.
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Doesn't sound like the worse that could happen to these dogs, at least they will not suffer any longer :(
 
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No, you don't have to have a heart of stone. Euthanise them in Romania. Why travel injured, sick, scared dogs away from what they know, so you feel like you're making a difference? What an unbelievable waste of money, when we have so so so many homeless dogs here!

Perhaps you could consider giving the 'collector' a password, or code, that they have to know to be able to take the dog.
 
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No, you don't have to have a heart of stone. Euthanise them in Romania. Why travel injured, sick, scared dogs away from what they know, so you feel like you're making a difference? What an unbelievable waste of money, when we have so so so many homeless dogs here!

Perhaps you could consider giving the 'collector' a password, or code, that they have to know to be able to take the dog.
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Bit harsh really- OP is doing their bit to help with an awful situation, not for us to judge is it. Maybe we wouldn't choose to put our energy into this particular cause, but lets face it, even over here rescuing is pretty much a drop in the ocean, but some of us do it.

Then again, some of us dont, and just have our animals PTS when they become troublesome or have health issues. Can't see that is any better than how these dogs are being treated in Romania actually.
 
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There are so many dogs being offered on Preloved etc why does some scumbag steal a rescue dog? What is the world coming to?
 
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Then again, some of us dont, and just have our animals PTS when they become troublesome or have health issues. Can't see that is any better than how these dogs are being treated in Romania actually.
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So you think that humanely putting dogs to sleep is on the same level as this:

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...the conditions that these dogs are kept in in Romania then you would understand, they are left to roam the streets, hit by cars and just left to drag broken legs until either caught by the dog catchers who are nothing but brutes and thrown into public shelters where they are fed once a week and just left in their own faeces and urine.
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Hopefully I'm misinterpreting your post
 
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Christ I really hope your rescue know what you are doing...
and have proper quarantine and veterinary checks in place to ensure those dogs are 100 percent healthy for transport and are not carriers and hiding clinical signs for a whole multitude of health problems that will have serious consequences to the UK population of dogs...

are your dogs all rabies vaccinated?and properly quarantine and titred before travel...rabies IS present in romania and is fatal to humans if they are infected.

how about dewormed before entry to the uk....
kennels disinfected between journeys?

Sounds like bringing sick or injured street dogs from romania is the perfect way to bring all sorts of NOT fun foreign diseases to the UK!

Im sure you mean well but have you any idea how dangerous some of your dogs could be to the health of hundreds to thousands of dogs in the uk?

I really hope im just completely wrong in my concerns and ye have your bases covered...but would you be able to reassure me?

I do hope you find the missing dog though.I agree with the above posted that the imformation provided sounds like its someone who is familiar with your animals and transport routes...
Could her new owners have been involved in a miscommunication perhaps?
 
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Christ I really hope your rescue know what you are doing...
and have proper quarantine and veterinary checks in place to ensure those dogs are 100 percent healthy for transport and are not carriers and hiding clinical signs for a whole multitude of health problems that will have serious consequences to the UK population of dogs...

are your dogs all rabies vaccinated?and properly quarantine and titred before travel...rabies IS present in romania and is fatal to humans if they are infected.

how about dewormed before entry to the uk....
kennels disinfected between journeys?

Sounds like bringing sick or injured street dogs from romania is the perfect way to bring all sorts of NOT fun foreign diseases to the UK!

Im sure you mean well but have you any idea how dangerous some of your dogs could be to the health of hundreds to thousands of dogs in the uk?

I really hope im just completely wrong in my concerns and ye have your bases covered...but would you be able to reassure me?

I do hope you find the missing dog though.I agree with the above posted that the imformation provided sounds like its someone who is familiar with your animals and transport routes...
Could her new owners have been involved in a miscommunication perhaps?
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I would also like to know the answers to these questions.....
 
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Well said Aru, and well spotted Caledonia.

Dragging poor dogs (oh and do I need to drag up news links of dogs in the UK being beaten, starved, abandoned, mutilated and dragged behind cars, like we are so squeaky clean...) on long journeys in what must be a very traumatic process while dogs in this country are suffering, with no heed paid to the potential spread of disease, sounds oh-so-familiar.....but hey, it makes HUMANS feel like they are doing a good deed.....doesn't it make you feel all warm and cuddly inside, no, it leaves me cold, actually.

I do hope the dog is safe though after all she has been through.
 
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Well said Aru, and well spotted Caledonia.

Dragging poor dogs (oh and do I need to drag up news links of dogs in the UK being beaten, starved, abandoned, mutilated and dragged behind cars, like we are so squeaky clean...) on long journeys in what must be a very traumatic process while dogs in this country are suffering, with no heed paid to the potential spread of disease, sounds oh-so-familiar.....but hey, it makes HUMANS feel like they are doing a good deed.....doesn't it make you feel all warm and cuddly inside, no, it leaves me cold, actually.

I do hope the dog is safe though after all she has been through.
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I hope the dog is safe too. Although I fear you may be slightly off regarding the motivation for bringing these dogs back. A lorry load of approx 30 of them at a time, and nice little 230 quid fee for transport per dog. All sounds horribly familiar .... :mad:
 
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1,400 miles and fuel costs for a sprinter type van would be around £300. Add ferries & tolls to make around £500 for the trip.

At 50 miles an hour this is 28 hours travelling so realistically 35 - 40 hours in the van.

£230 a pup multiplied by how many?

As for anyone turned down by a rescue in the UK - plenty of mutt puppies for less than £300 on Gumtree etc.
 
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