Video of my horse lunging...have a giggle!

Ibblebibble said:
my first thoughts were that the horse looked blocked in front when being asked to go forwards so he's bucking in protest rather than it being high spirits, as someone else has said it's always just after you've 'clicked' him on. Try walking fast with your arms clamped to your sides, it's how i showed my daughter how hard you make it for the horse when you block the front end:)
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This is exactly what I thought straight away.

I don't see a 'naughty' horse or one in high spirits. I see a horse who is protesting through restriction and possibly discomfort.:(
 
I thought the pessoa is inappropriately fitted on a horse that isn't tracking up, is tight throughout and unhappy.

OP I note that you have your "professional" log in and your private log in. As you are offering lungeing as a service on your professional webpage I'd think very carefully about having videos such as this linked so closely to you, perhaps use your private log in. I for one would certainly NOT wish you to lunge any horse of mine if this is an accurate demonstration of your capabilities.

For those who don't know how a horse in a pessoa should be working this link may be enlightening. Note the position of the head in relation to the vertical.
 
Wow this thread has turned rather bitchy hasnt it. We all have opinions on stuff but really is there a need to be nasty, and Im noting some of the names are people whom Ive had great help and advice from in the past :(

Why not maybe suggest things to the op in regards to the adjustment of the pessoa. Instead of attacking how the horse looks? I use one and my horse has the odd buck the first time he canters in it, just because he actually has to work in it, he will have the odd buck under saddle in canter if he feels he shouldnt be working ;)
 
I clicked on this video just minutes after it was published on here and closed the thread and walked away because I didn't want to be the one moaning or having a go at someone AGAIN. Glad others have said what I thought. I wouldn't find it funny if my girl was doing that on the lunge, this seems obvious to me that this isn't high jinx at all, nothing about his face or general manner suggests that he is spirited during this bucking, it suggests that the Pessoa isn't being used properly and that the horse is unhappy.....

OP, raise the back piece, loosen the front, get a physio to check his back end perhaps?

ETA
So the equestrian professional is the owner of 'Silvershoes' the mare that died recently.
 
Im sorry, Im no expert BUT IMO - horse does not look happy, ears are back the Pessoa is way too tight restricting movement.... If he had Bucked just once at the start it may have been mildly amusing but EVERY time he broke into canter it happened...
 
Moomin..... I am appalled that folk like this can set themselves up with a fancy website, and tout for buisness..... gawd help us - I just wish I was a faceache person as I would be sending a warning message out there for anyone one that is thinking of livery with this pair of cowboys - she is far too brutal for my stomach :(
 
zigzag said:
No room for them? 11 boxes , two with there horses in, 3 that they are selling, only leaves room for 6 liveries, not going to make money if they filling up yard with their own horses
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True.... but you would have thought that with all the money they are spending and that shiney horse box, they would have looked after such a good servant

She is 23 he is 21.... between them they have 30 years experiance..... yearh right !
 
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Gingerwitch said:
True.... but you would have thought that with all the money they are spending and that shiney horse box, they would have looked after such a good servant
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You would have thought so, I did feel sorry for her losing her mare (even though I thought she should have done more) but now seeing the youtube videos my opinion has changed, and just feel for the poor mare
 
There is nothing wrong with the fit of the Pessoa, it is on correctly. The horse is doing what many horses do when they feel the pressure of then bit that comes under the tail touch them. He won't be the first or the last to react like that to the Pessoa.
I do agree that the horse isn't tracking up but perhaps the person lunging simply wasn't sending him forward enough.
OP. if you have the side bits of the Pessoa through the middle ring on the sides of the horse rather than through one of the top rings the action on the mouth isn't so tight , he might then be softer over his back and track up a little more .
 
Black Beastie said:
Wow this thread has turned rather bitchy hasnt it. We all have opinions on stuff but really is there a need to be nasty, and Im noting some of the names are people whom Ive had great help and advice from in the past :(

Why not maybe suggest things to the op in regards to the adjustment of the pessoa. Instead of attacking how the horse looks? I use one and my horse has the odd buck the first time he canters in it, just because he actually has to work in it, he will have the odd buck under saddle in canter if he feels he shouldnt be working ;)
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Bitchy or not BB, And maybe I have been but I could not just watch that video and walk away. Even before the horse bucked, I could already see that the Pessoa was incorrectly fitted, the horse was severely restricted and I just had to speak my mind.

Especially when the title invites one to have a laugh at the expense of this horse.

Terrible embarrassment. It's a beautiful horse that will not stay beautiful for very long.
 
charlie76 said:
There is nothing wrong with the fit of the Pessoa, it is on correctly. The horse is doing what many horses do when they feel the pressure of then bit that comes under the tail touch them. He won't be the first or the last to react like that to the Pessoa.
I do agree that the horse isn't tracking up but perhaps the person lunging simply wasn't sending him forward enough.
OP. if you have the side bits of the Pessoa through the middle ring on the sides of the horse rather than through one of the top rings the action on the mouth isn't so tight , he might then be softer over his back and track up a little more .
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Then I sincerely hope you do not use one if you think that Pessoa is on correctly! The Pessoa is designed to yield to stretching and even encourage it at all levels. All this horse can do is move its head up and down in an arch.

That is not how the pulley system is meant to work.

How could that frame possibly move forward? The horse is trying very hard actually to move forward but can't... Because its put in a false outline that does not allow the shoulder to move hardly at all!!

When asked to move forward more, it can only buck as all power from back end is completely lost.

If you can't see that then, you need to go back and have another look at what the mechanics of the pulley system is doing to restrict every stride that horse is trying to make.

This is when gadgets are best left alone.
 
I've never used a Pessoa and don't know how to fit one but even I can see I would want that horse stretching and swinging more (bless him he tries to stretch but can't because of the Pessoa). He can't track up and move forward because he's hitting a brick wall.
Although I don't agree with turning private detective and posting OPs other videos on here, nor do I feel comfortable with the death of her mare being dredged up again.
OP maybe try slackening the Pessoa as suggested and see if he improves. If he also does it under saddle could you also be restricting him with your hands?
 
I just watched the lunge video and saw some of the first few comments with shock, i am so glad that people do speak their mind and say what they see as i personally felt really sorry for that horse! Good for tally ho et al for speaking up!
 
little_critter said:
I've never used a Pessoa and don't know how to fit one but even I can see I would want that horse stretching and swinging more (bless him he tries to stretch but can't because of the Pessoa). He can't track up and move forward because he's hitting a brick wall.
Although I don't agree with turning private detective and posting OPs other videos on here, nor do I feel comfortable with the death of her mare being dredged up again.
OP maybe try slackening the Pessoa as suggested and see if he improves. If he also does it under saddle could you also be restricting him with your hands?
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agree with this . I dont think attacking her or saying she isnt bothered about the death of the horse is going to encourage her to rethink how she is using this gadget. I'd personally bin the bloomin pessoa.
 
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