Vitamin E supplements recommendations

[AntiPuck]

I have been using the Forageplus Natural vitamin E, but wondered if there was an equivalent product potentially available more cheaply elsewhere, especially in larger quantities - never hurts to ask when it comes to horsey stuff.

Can anyone recommend another one they've used?

 

[lynz88]

I use FP and search for other versions from time to time but not found anything equivalent for a cheaper price. Natural vit e doesn't come cheap. I was going to try the Kentucky Research Nano-E but I think it still works out similar cost-wise. I do get the 1kg bags from FP now!

 

[SEL]

I sometimes do human capsules when they're on offer from Holland & Barrett but for a powder FP is still the best £ per iU

 

[AntiPuck]

Thank you, good to know it can't be beaten then!

 

[ycbm]

I can't ever beat it. Progressive Earth's looks cheaper but according to their small print there are fewer iu in a 5ml scoop. Most human stuff is synthetic and so is all "cheap" horse stuff, so you need twice as much which makes it more expensive.
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[humblepie]

I use FP as well though horse doesn’t really like the taste of it. Have to feed speedibeat to encourage him to eat his tea with it in.

 

[nutjob]

I use FP also. I have spent ages looking for a better deal but not found one for same iu none synthetic.

 

[NightStock]

Equine Vitality do a natural Vit E that is a couple of pounds more but includes P&P so think it works out cheaper unless you spend enough to get free P&P with FP? I've also used them for Boswellia when I was feeding that, it is a shame they don't offer more stuff as found them good to deal with.
https://www.equinevitality.co.uk/item/Vitamin-E

 

[Fieldlife]

Does anyone know if the vitamin E in Progressive Earth and Forage Plus balancers contain synthetic or natural vitamin E?

 

[fidleyspromise]

Does anyone know if the vitamin E in Progressive Earth and Forage Plus balancers contain synthetic or natural vitamin E?

Pro balance plus has Vitamins: Vitamin E (all rac-alpha tocopherol acetate) which looking online appears to be the synthetic.
Rrr-alpha appears to be the natural form.

This is my understanding so happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

 

[lynz88]

I know the hoof and skin winter balancer from FP is synthetic.

 

[ycbm]

Mistake deleted

 

[Tiddlypom]

I know the hoof and skin winter balancer from FP is synthetic.

Agree, I asked FP this question directly. Disappointing, to say the least, especially as they do not make it clear on their product listing.

 

[lynz88]

Yep same as I expected it to be natural but as I supplement further with natural, wanted to be sure for my calculations so asked!

 

[Fieldlife]

So if it’s synthetic should I halve the number of iU provided? So assume it’s 1000iU not 2000iU?

 

[ycbm]

So if it’s synthetic should I halve the number of iU provided? So assume it’s 1000iU not 2000iU?

Yes. The explanation a chemist on the forum gave was that natural vitamin E is a right handed molecule but the synthetic version is half left handed and half right handed and the horse can only use the right hand version.
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[Bob notacob]

Yes. The explanation a chemist on the forum gave was that natural vitamin E is a right handed molecule but the synthetic version is half left handed and half right handed and the horse can only use the right hand version.
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Ouch, yes. Having just put on my rather dusty alter ego, biochemist hat . That figures. If the horse is in hard work ,FRESHLY rolled Oats are a great source. But Vit E oxidises easily ,so all sources must be protected or fresh. Bob takes off hat ,retires to munching hay .

 

[visa_bot]

The cheapest I found and use is Gravenhorse feeds, £13.95 for nearly 2kg and it’s natural.

 

[Fieldlife]

The cheapest I found and use is Gravenhorse feeds, £13.95 for nearly 2kg and it’s natural.

That’s incredibly cheap! A fraction of the cost from FP!

 

[ycbm]

The cheapest I found and use is Gravenhorse feeds, £13.95 for nearly 2kg and it’s natural.

I'll eat my hat is that's pure vitamin e with 2000 iu per 5ml scoop.

Stuff that cheap usually has a hell of a lot of filler in it and is no cheaper to feed per 1000 iu.

I'm off to find it, back later.
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[ycbm]

http://www.gravenhorse.co.uk/SuppliesOlR5.html#txt_109

50,000iu per kilo.

Forage Plus has about c.500,000iu per kilo, working out much cheaper.


ETA the description has 50,000 iu per kg as the headline and lower down says 500,000 iu per kg and says 10g will deliver 5000 iu.

In view of the price I believe the headline figure is correct, the bottom figure is wrong, and the product is stuffed full of fillers. I don't believe anyone can sell 500,000 iu per kg vitamin E at that price.

I would have emailed them to check but there is no email address and their address on the site is a PO box and the phone numbers don't identify where they are either, which also tells me this company may not be reputable.
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[Fieldlife]

If this is it, there is no comparison between this and Forageplus. 75- 150g a day instead of 3.75g 5000iu per kilo against c.500,000iu per kilo.

http://www.gravenhorse.co.uk/hors_e_vit.html

That’s not the right one. Look again, and I’ll try snd link it. Right one says 10gms = 5,000iU

 

[COldNag]

If this is it, there is no comparison between this and Forageplus. 75- 150g a day instead of 3.75g 5000iu per kilo against c.500,000iu per kilo.

http://www.gravenhorse.co.uk/hors_e_vit.html

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Looks like they also have pure Vit E.... not heard of this supplier before, they have some well-priced supplements. May investigate further!

 

[Fieldlife]

Wrong stuff, back later.

This one - http://www.gravenhorse.co.uk/SuppliesOlR5.html#txt_84

 

[Tiddlypom]

Looking fishy.

No results on Google for Horsehealth Natural Vitamin E 50?

 

[Fieldlife]

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Looks like they also have pure Vit E.... not heard of this supplier before, they have some well-priced supplements. May investigate further!

Hmmm looks like they have a 50,000 snd 500,000 iU / kg versions.

The 500,000 iU / kg version says £18.95 and 10gms = 5,000iU but doesn’t say how much you get!

The less concentrated version you’d need to feed 100gms to get 5,000iU.

 

[ycbm]

Hmmm looks like they have a 50,000 snd 500,000 iU / kg versions.

The 500,000 iU / kg version says £18.95 and 10gms = 5,000iU but doesn’t say how much you get!

The less concentrated version you’d need to feed 100gms to get 5,000iU.

I've just started an order and it's coming up with 950g on the order page. This just seems incredibly dodgy, I have a problem believing anyone can sell natural vitamin E at £19 that all the other suppliers are charging about 4 times as much for.

 

[lynz88]

The website alone looks dodgy and is insecure. Not sure I would trust it as far as I can throw it.

 

[Fieldlife]

The website alone looks dodgy and is insecure. Not sure I would trust it as far as I can throw it.

I’ve bought off the supplier a long time ago and know others who have too. (Straight Feed not supplements). AFAIK it used to be more of a delivery business. I think I used to live on the delivery route maybe 15 years ago.

I think it’s a basic website rather than anything dodgy. Though I don’t know it the vitamin E is exactly as specified.

 

[criso]

Looking fishy.

No results on Google for Horsehealth Natural Vitamin E 50?

It's Horseheath not Horsehealth. It's a localish xc venue and p to p and the seller sold there when they had events. They've prefixed alot of their products with it so just adopted it for their products i tbink.

People at my last yard bought supplements regularly and really rated them.

Website is amateurish but not dodgy. Looks like they've forgotten to put the weight om the purer stuff but 950g at 18.95 for the pure against £8.95 for the less. Postage is 7.50 though when i tried a test.

https://www.facebook.com/Gravenhorse