ROG
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Apart from the Bateson Derby you are looking for a single horse trailer which is max 750 empty
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Ok. Thanks for all of your help ?
amycamycamyc
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Hi ROG, please can I have your expert blessing for the following combination...?
- B driving licence only
- Ford Kuga (2019 1.5 ecoboost zetec 2WD badge power 150hp)
- GWM: 2100, gross train mass: 4100, kerb weight: 1579, mass towable mass: 2000 (https://media.ford.com/content/dam/.../Kuga/FordKuga_TechnicalSpecifications_EU.pdf)
- Trailer: Cheval Liberte Touring One trailer, unladen weight 745kg, downrated to 1400kg
- Horse: 650kg on a bad day without breathing in
I think this is ok....
Praying it is!
Thanks very much in advance!
- B driving licence only
- Ford Kuga (2019 1.5 ecoboost zetec 2WD badge power 150hp)
- GWM: 2100, gross train mass: 4100, kerb weight: 1579, mass towable mass: 2000 (https://media.ford.com/content/dam/.../Kuga/FordKuga_TechnicalSpecifications_EU.pdf)
- Trailer: Cheval Liberte Touring One trailer, unladen weight 745kg, downrated to 1400kg
- Horse: 650kg on a bad day without breathing in
I think this is ok....
Praying it is!
Thanks very much in advance!
ROG
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2100 + 1400 = 3500 so YES YES YES on a B licence
Horse 650 + empty trailer 745 = 1395 so only 5 to spare = very very close so perhaps a trip when loaded to a weigh bridge ?
amycamycamyc
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Great, thanks ROG!
Yes a trip to a weighbridge PLUS even more incentive to keep the Horse on a permanent diet!
newhorseowner2008
New User
Hello!
Looking for some advice.
Looking to purchase Rav4 4 wheel drive, 2.5 lite engine.
Towing capacity 1650kg, kerb weight 1615kg.
I am towing Ifor 506 920kg and horse at 500kg. So 1450kg total.
Will this do what I need it to do?
The figures in my mind work out but I want to check.
Looking for some advice.
Looking to purchase Rav4 4 wheel drive, 2.5 lite engine.
Towing capacity 1650kg, kerb weight 1615kg.
I am towing Ifor 506 920kg and horse at 500kg. So 1450kg total.
Will this do what I need it to do?
The figures in my mind work out but I want to check.
ROG
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What licence B or B+E?
GVW of vehicle if on a B licence? - does not matter if got B+E
newhorseowner2008
New User
I have B + E licence . I am worried about the car being able to tow . Any insight would be great. It’s below the kerb weight and Towing capacity . But just not sure .
Thanks in advance!
ROG
Well-Known Member
If a manufacturer says it can tow 1650 then it can - if it could not then they would be sued a lot!!
newhorseowner2008
New User
This is very true . I just wondered if being close-ish to the towing capacity would be a problem .
ROG
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I can only give the same answer as previous
newhorseowner2008
New User
Thanks, much appreciated.
holeymoley
Well-Known Member
Just my input- the terrain you drive on can depend how well it will tow too. Towing on tarmac and on fairly ‘normal’ roads can make a big difference to towing up inclines on rough stoney tracks so it’s worth taking that in to consideration too. If you’re prone to the latter I’d suggest something with a bit more gumph.
newhorseowner2008
New User
Thank you so much. I did Have a think about this . Everywhere I’ll be going is tarmac and easy roads actually and no steep inclines which is good .
sparow
Member
sparow
Member
Hi, if I can yet another trailer query for you:
Have B&E licence
Ford Kuga 2 litre diesel automatic
From V5 Documentation:
Revenue weight is 2230 kg GROSS
Mass permissable weight is 2230 kg
Mass in service is 1788 kg
Permissable maximum towable mass of trailer: Braked 2100 kg
Unbraked: 750 kg
What weight can I realistically tow with this car. I was thinking of a Cheval Liberte trailer due to lower weight. Is this sensible or would my car cope with a heavier Ifor Williams.
Horse weighs approx 600 kgs.
Many thanks for your help with this.
Have B&E licence
Ford Kuga 2 litre diesel automatic
From V5 Documentation:
Revenue weight is 2230 kg GROSS
Mass permissable weight is 2230 kg
Mass in service is 1788 kg
Permissable maximum towable mass of trailer: Braked 2100 kg
Unbraked: 750 kg
What weight can I realistically tow with this car. I was thinking of a Cheval Liberte trailer due to lower weight. Is this sensible or would my car cope with a heavier Ifor Williams.
Horse weighs approx 600 kgs.
Many thanks for your help with this.
ROG
Well-Known Member
You can tow 2100 with this vehicle
Manufacturers would be being sued if the max tow weight was not OK
sparow
Member
Many thanks for this.
ROG
Well-Known Member
IMPORTANT UPDATE FOR MANUAL B LICENCE HOLDERS
Now passing auto B+E in the UK when you have B manual will get you B+E in manual
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...ing-licence-upgrade-and-motorcycle-test-rules
Now passing auto B+E in the UK when you have B manual will get you B+E in manual
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...ing-licence-upgrade-and-motorcycle-test-rules
tallyho!
Following a strict mediterranean diet...
As long as you have passed a manual test previously… but some kids do their test in an automatic so will they have to take another test for manual first?
ROG
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They could do B+E manual which upgrades B to manual or pass B & B+E auto then do B manual which upgrades all to manual
Any manual pass will upgrade all other categories in auto to manual
tallyho!
Following a strict mediterranean diet...
Ah ok thanks for clarifying.
ROG
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...-of-measures-to-support-road-haulage-industry
look at whether specific car and trailer tests should be required
Rather than scrap the B+E test I would like to see B+E trainers being able to sign off the driver as being safely competent to have B+E added
look at whether specific car and trailer tests should be required
Rather than scrap the B+E test I would like to see B+E trainers being able to sign off the driver as being safely competent to have B+E added
AMJJ1986
New User
Hello,
Wondering if there are any single trailer/car options to tow a 725kg horse on a B license? I've been researching it but not sure it is possible to find a safe/legal set up for such a big horse. (also looking at lorries and booking trailer test)
Thanks
Wondering if there are any single trailer/car options to tow a 725kg horse on a B license? I've been researching it but not sure it is possible to find a safe/legal set up for such a big horse. (also looking at lorries and booking trailer test)
Thanks
ROG
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Skoda Octavia 4x4 GVW 2100kgHello,
Wondering if there are any single trailer/car options to tow a 725kg horse on a B license? I've been researching it but not sure it is possible to find a safe/legal set up for such a big horse. (also looking at lorries and booking trailer test)
Thanks
Bateson Derby trailer MAM 1400 down plated from 1700
Trailer empty = 675 so at 1400 that would leave a max trailer load of 725
THAT IS VERY TIGHT!!
AMJJ1986
New User
Thanks so much ROG, appreciate your input. I think I had better book in a test (or get a smaller horse ?
)Ched9310
Member
Hi ROG,
what would be you best recommendation for a car that could tow a 510 with 15.2 & 16.2 horse, weight of horses approx 1100kg.
I know this has been done to death but I find so many pros & cons for different vehicles when researching.
Ideally need something that won’t break the back to run, I was looking at the Kia Sorento but now not sure it’s ‘safe’ enough!
Thank you!
what would be you best recommendation for a car that could tow a 510 with 15.2 & 16.2 horse, weight of horses approx 1100kg.
I know this has been done to death but I find so many pros & cons for different vehicles when researching.
Ideally need something that won’t break the back to run, I was looking at the Kia Sorento but now not sure it’s ‘safe’ enough!
Thank you!
ROG
Well-Known Member
You will get more responses on this by posting in the main forum
I will assume you have B+E on licence
Ched9310
Member