Well this is a can of worms

Spring Feather you reminded me of a conversation I had on a train journey when I was a student many years ago. I was on the train going back to Uni & a (somewhat large) girl on my course got on at the next station, she joined me & we chatted while we ate our packed teas. Mine was a couple of sarnies, some fruit & a carton of juice. Hers was a pasty, a sausage roll, sarnies, a couple of slices of cake, chocolate biscuits, multiple choc bars & 2 cans of a well known fizzy drink. It stuck in my mind as I was stunned that one person could eat so much in such a short period of time. Several times she complained that she could not understand why she was so large as she only ever picked at food & hardly ate enough to keep a sparrow alive. The sad thing was she had convinced herself this was true.
 
Actually I feel I should apologise to FW. I am in a frustrated, unhappy mood today and I should not have commented as I did in a bit of a provocative way. I just do get frustrated seeing my friends end up in hospital from food related issues due to pressure from society and the assumption that fat people are that way as too lazy, can't be bothered to diet etc etc. Some people may be gannets but not all.

However that's no excuse to be a bit mean to someone else. Sorry.
 
littlelegs said:
Is the bitch cap available in ff sizes too I wonder? Only I imagine given their thoughts on slim people they'll need quite a few. Maybe a new line for md fuller, available in zebra print.
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well pointed out.

strange isnt it how it very rarely seems to work both ways?

when underweight people dare to complain that skinny people are getting -often quite venomous comments levelled our way we get 'if you give it you should expect to receive it' which points to your logic Big Ben being that despite all the screeches of outrage when larger sized people feel criticised, its perfectly fine to be 'a bitch' yourself.

Really, if hypocrisy cost money some people would be bankrupt.
 
TrasaM said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXbH0iFzTP0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What can happen .......
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I just watched this (and yes, that guy's laugh is infectious :D).

Off topic I know, but unfortunately I read some of the comments below it, thinking people might be commenting from an animal welfare point of view. :o What I saw instead were lots of sickening outragiously racist insults :eek::mad:.

And people think there are insults and "bashing" going on here.... Seeing those comments does make me glad that HHO has a decent report and admin system though.
 
I never read YouTube comments.

Anyway, on a plus note... Was someone looking for the cob thread?? Talk about the devil................. :D
 
hairycob said:
Spring Feather you reminded me of a conversation I had on a train journey when I was a student many years ago. I was on the train going back to Uni & a (somewhat large) girl on my course got on at the next station, she joined me & we chatted while we ate our packed teas. Mine was a couple of sarnies, some fruit & a carton of juice. Hers was a pasty, a sausage roll, sarnies, a couple of slices of cake, chocolate biscuits, multiple choc bars & 2 cans of a well known fizzy drink. It stuck in my mind as I was stunned that one person could eat so much in such a short period of time. Several times she complained that she could not understand why she was so large as she only ever picked at food & hardly ate enough to keep a sparrow alive. The sad thing was she had convinced herself this was true.
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It's amazing isn't it. There's none so blind as those who can't see. I have no issue with anyones weight, big and fat, thin and skinny, if they're friends, they're friends. End of story. Just don't try to fob me off with ludicrous stories about how little you (ie they) eat when what you (ie they) eat in one meal is more than I eat in a 2 or 3 days lol :mad::D:D
 
tallyho! said:
Shall we go and "stumble" on it again...
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:D

Hollycatt I don't see how anyone could possibly take any offence at your posts :)

Societal pressure to conform to a particular image is damaging, whether that image is a severely underweight 'ideal' or a severely overweight one.. The MD of FF seems to think it perfectly acceptable to post derogatory pictures and 'jokes' about 'skinnies' and the blatant hypocrisy of that is getting people's backs up.

Then there is the separate issue of what weight is 'fair' for a particular horse.
 
Just had a nosy at D2R's blog and would like to point out one thing:

Friday night we’d had lasagne and chips which although was a big portion, I did stop myself part way through. Which left me wanting more.

Even after toffee yogurt I was still thinking about food. But I managed to soldier on and not eat anything else that night. Saturday was a bit of a mix up day, we were going to have a sandwich out but actually ended up in a pub. Where despite knowing I had a BBQ later.

I still ordered scampi and chips. Followed by chocolate brownie, which I did share with The boy. -i didn’t want to- then saturday night was actually a hog roast roll with some salads followed by cheesecake. I have to admit to demolishing this, it was the nicest cheesecake I’d had in a while.

And then onto sunday, which was brunch of bacon and cheese baps. With pizza and coleslaw for dinner, I had saved up my treat so I could have popcorn and chocolate in front of a film. (I know I shouldn’t of done this) I had wanted to stop the whole snacking in front of tv or at least make it fruit.

Then after the boy went to bed I had a scout around the kitchen but all I could find was a lollipop, which was horrible. So I settled on one of my toffee yogurts with the idea that at least I was having something I enjoyed and hopefully I wouldn’t go back for more junk.

I managed to stay away, despite feeling hungry and constantly thinking about food. I went to bed reasonably chilled. With a glimmer of hope I would be down a pound today, Nope no such luck.
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Hun, you really need to have a look at your diet! This is all fattening food (apart from the fruit but you didn't have that) and you will struggle to lose weight if this is a typical sample of what you eat! I really suggest that you visit a dietician/nutritionist.

ETA: having just watched that video, all of your 23 stone is focused over one small area of your horse's back as you have squashed yourself into that saddle :(:(:(
 
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I have been pondering... how are western saddles measured? they always seem to extend further back but not sure if that is the actual panels or not?
 
ester said:
I have been pondering... how are western saddles measured? they always seem to extend further back but not sure if that is the actual panels or not?
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I eluded to this one too, but not in this thread.

They only look longer because of the skirt but they are pretty much measured exactly the same as ours.
 
Spring Feather said:
Well I've been on this forum on and off for 10 years and I'd say most people on here rarely bear grudges. Perhaps you just had a moment :) that's okay, we all have our moments
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Thanks, and also thanks to everyone who has said welcome

katastrophykat said:
Haha- welcome Big Ben, yes, you have to be brave to post here without pics ;)

Everyone is bashed equally, so don't worry- just give as good as you get and you'll be fine!!
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I will maybe start my own thread, with pics......I have an idea, maybe

Capriole said:
I cant, Ive currently got a cob :(

I accidently bred it though, didnt buy it, is my excuse ;)
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LOL, well that's OK then, much like my latest saddle that I accidentally won on ebay

Broke_But_Happy said:
ETA: having just watched that video, all of your 23 stone is focused over one small area of your horse's back as you have squashed yourself into that saddle :(:(:(
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Well maybe she needs a bigger saddle......Oh wait.....
 
Spring Feather said:
Which brings us nicely round to the point of this thread. Some people need a 22 inch saddle ...
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Which takes us back to what sort of horse can carry a 22" saddle? But is a horse has a back soooo long they can carry a 22" saddle, are they up to carrying the weight of a rider who has a butt sooo big they need a 22" saddle...............:confused:
 
Gosh, what a palaver!

Regarding the 22" saddles. I very much doubt one will ever be sold. There are few horses that could accommodate so large a saddle, and any responsible saddle fitter would not fit such a large saddle on a horse just so the rider could fit their backside in it if it didn't fit the horse too.

Regarding people being too fat to ride. I looked at the US horse forum and while some of the rider/horse combinations were absolutely wrong there were plenty of others that were well suited - the owner had obviously considered their weight and ability and bought a horse to suit. I have found some comments on this thread a bit near the knuckle and some so hypocritical they made me laugh!

The opinion in the UK (or perhaps just HHO?) is that anyone who weighs more than 10 stone in weight really shouldn't be riding. How many threads are there that go along the lines of 'Am I too big for my horse' when the owner weighs 9 stone wet through. The amount of comments that say the rider is at the top end of the weight for their 15.2 TB makes me laugh, it really does. Now saying that there is obviously a top weight that a horse can comfortably carry, and that weight is dependant on so many things - the fitness of the horse, the length of back, the bone, the breed, and the ability and balance of the rider. Also, what is it the rider does with the horse? I am 14 stone in weight. I ride a 13.2 Highland. He is stocky and fit lad with good bone. I would like to think I am a reasonably balanced rider and all we do together at the moment is hack up the hills in walk. Due to my weight I wouldn't dream of doing much more, and I am happy being a happy hacker and pootling around admiring the scenery. We are rarely out for more than an hour at a time and the thought of my galloping accross the beach or jumping the poor lad makes me shudder. That would be unfair on him.

I admire people who are larger and who actually get off their arses and do something. The members of the US forum, are not sat in front of the TV all day, at least they are making the effort, and in being more active I bet the weight will start to come off.
 
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And to bring things round in circles they type of horse that could actually CARRY a bigger saddle is like rocking horse poo, and those who do will no doubt be conformationally defective and therefore have a WEAK back - would you put 20+ stone on a horse which has already got a weak back?!

I'm not against "heavy" riders but only up to a point. After that you need to put the horse's welfare over you own needs and lose weight so that you can ride!
 
FionaM12 said:
I just watched this (and yes, that guy's laugh is infectious :D).

Off topic I know, but unfortunately I read some of the comments below it, thinking people might be commenting from an animal welfare point of view. :o What I saw instead were lots of sickening outragiously racist insults :eek::mad:.

And people think there are insults and "bashing" going on here.... Seeing those comments does make me glad that HHO has a decent report and admin system though.
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Best not to read the comments on YouTube ..advice from my son that :)
 
Diet2ride your boy is gorgeous but I really think you should be losing some weight before riding him again. I have 3 thoroughbreds and my weight has gone in the last 3 years 11stobe-16 stone- 13 stone- 14 stone and now I'm fat still! I would love to blame my weight gains on the fact I had a miscarriage but I over ate to compensate my feelings I then lost loads and then put weight back on again and bla bla. I have now decided aged 22 that life's to short I'm trying so hard and am loosing weight (currently back at 14 stone ush) but I have decided to rough mine off over winter and lose another 2 stone before riding again. A lot of people may seem like 'bully's' on here but they are not and have given me the kick up the backside I needed after a horrid time!
 
rhino said:
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Hollycatt I don't see how anyone could possibly take any offence at your posts :)

Societal pressure to conform to a particular image is damaging, whether that image is a severely underweight 'ideal' or a severely overweight one.. The MD of FF seems to think it perfectly acceptable to post derogatory pictures and 'jokes' about 'skinnies' and the blatant hypocrisy of that is getting people's backs up.

Then there is the separate issue of what weight is 'fair' for a particular horse.
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Awww - thanks Rhino. I was leting the inner moo-bag roar though :eek: I never looked at the FF site. It is not nice to be mean to anyone - we all have our problems in life. Some can be seen some can't.
 
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