Auslander
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Thank you - I didn't think it was a baby. Any idea what the story is?
What are peoples views on this
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Thank you - I didn't think it was a baby. Any idea what the story is?
Anglebracket
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No sorry, my Dutch is not good enough to follow much of the commentary. The "about" blurb claims that the horse is 8 and that he is a tuiker. Tuiker translates to "harness / rig". So perhaps a harness horse being broken to saddle?
Auslander
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I thought he was a Gelderlander, looking at his conformation, so that adds up. He was fairly affronted at the thought of someone on his back, bless him!
snooples
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Iv seen plenty of yearling broken this way for racing, they do a bit of bucking the first day or two but are usually fine after that. I think its quite the norm in the racing world
an example can be seen in the vid below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sKqwfvATqY
Im not a fan of breaking and racing young horses however I have no problem with this method for breaking. However I have found that as these horses arent driven etc before hand then they have no mouth and dont really understand direction so its a lot for them to take in all at once.
an example can be seen in the vid below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sKqwfvATqY
Im not a fan of breaking and racing young horses however I have no problem with this method for breaking. However I have found that as these horses arent driven etc before hand then they have no mouth and dont really understand direction so its a lot for them to take in all at once.
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Jesstickle
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We didn't back our yearlings that way. I would have been off if we had, my stickability is no where near tha good!
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite
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I didn't like it one bit; however, appreciate that in lots of situations this is exactly what happens when a horse is "backed" for the first time.
Thought the horse was absolutely gorgeous and a really good sort - was doing his very best despite the awfulness of what was happening to him. A great tragedy therefore, that his first experience of someone sitting on his back will be a negative memory and this will undoubtedly affect his future performance. He deserves better, much better.
Thought the horse was absolutely gorgeous and a really good sort - was doing his very best despite the awfulness of what was happening to him. A great tragedy therefore, that his first experience of someone sitting on his back will be a negative memory and this will undoubtedly affect his future performance. He deserves better, much better.
micramadam
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I just had to respond to some of the comments on here.
1) This is NOT the norm over here! Slow and steady is preferred. There may be some who do it this way but it is not the norm.
Please do not class all Dutch riders, trainers etc. with the same brush. There are good and bad just like in England. There are a lot of things I don't like what they do over here but the majority try to do what is best for their horse. Though there are a few I would personally like to give a piece of their own medicine to!!
2) I do understand the language and this is a 'tuigpaard' a 'tuiger' in other words a carriage horse. I wasn't really listening to what they were saying as I was watching in total disbelief. Not my way or a lot other peoples way of doing this and certainly not in front of an audience. This only added to the horse's discomfort. He was already frightened and unsure before they even started the process.
The idea was that if they kept him going forward he couldn't buck.
Did anyone else think he had a sway back? Most Gelderlanders I have seen here have more of a flat back with very little drop off to the tail. Almost ruler straight.
Will rewatch the video to see what if I can hear what the story is?
1) This is NOT the norm over here! Slow and steady is preferred. There may be some who do it this way but it is not the norm.
Please do not class all Dutch riders, trainers etc. with the same brush. There are good and bad just like in England. There are a lot of things I don't like what they do over here but the majority try to do what is best for their horse. Though there are a few I would personally like to give a piece of their own medicine to!!
2) I do understand the language and this is a 'tuigpaard' a 'tuiger' in other words a carriage horse. I wasn't really listening to what they were saying as I was watching in total disbelief. Not my way or a lot other peoples way of doing this and certainly not in front of an audience. This only added to the horse's discomfort. He was already frightened and unsure before they even started the process.
The idea was that if they kept him going forward he couldn't buck.
Did anyone else think he had a sway back? Most Gelderlanders I have seen here have more of a flat back with very little drop off to the tail. Almost ruler straight.
Will rewatch the video to see what if I can hear what the story is?
micramadam
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Sound is quite bad but I got quite a lot of what was said. I couldn't hear what age they said the horse was but I did hear them say that this is normally done at 2 or 3 years old.
He was asked why he was sending it backwards and his reply was that the horse was tense. Really! Whatever made him think that? Sending it backwards takes some of the tension out of them? He also doesn't like to give the horses the opportunity to rear as they can go over backwards and he hates this!
He also says towards the end of the video that this is a very dangerous horse.
WORDS FAIL ME!